MSM Claiming Clinton Won Debate, Polls Show Differently

originally posted by: UnBreakable
a reply to: newWorldSamurai

CNN = Clinton News Network. CNN ignores Sanders high poll numbers just like Fox ignored Ron Pauls popular polling in '12. TPTB wanted another Clinton/Bush in '16, but Jeb has ruined their dreams with his immigration stance. Now me thinks their in the tank for Rubio instead. They're going to setup/invent a situation for Trump to fail if his popularity goes past next spring. Book it.

I think it's more than just Jeb's immigration stance. I think he comes across as weak and very uncharismatic. He makes Clinton look Good. George had a lot more charisma. People actually liked him when he was running for President. You'd be hard pressed to find a Republican that says they really LIKE Jeb Bush. Rubio is much more charismatic but I just don't think he's a strong candidate, we'll see.

a reply to: amicktd

One of the biggest embarrassments for big media last night showed in online polls conducted by CNN. Two separate polls each picked Sanders as the winner.

Curiously, this poll was removed from CNN’s website, and is only shown here thanks to a Reddit user’s screenshot. CNN removed the poll and replaced it with a pro-Clinton headline:

Wow.... If this isn't doesn't get people stirred up, I'm not sure what will.

originally posted by: newWorldSamurai
a reply to: amicktd

One of the biggest embarrassments for big media last night showed in online polls conducted by CNN. Two separate polls each picked Sanders as the winner.

Curiously, this poll was removed from CNN’s website, and is only shown here thanks to a Reddit user’s screenshot. CNN removed the poll and replaced it with a pro-Clinton headline:

Wow.... If this isn't doesn't get people stirred up, I'm not sure what will.

I know it stirs me up. Especially while I stare at a Hillary Clinton ad over here while I type this.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

I think all the Sanders supporters are about to get a rather deep and profound understanding of what Ron Paul supporters felt over the past decade.

The difference is that Hillary is negatively dominating the headlines with her email scandal -- that's working to Bernie's favor without having to get much media attention of his own. Also, a fawning media would do nothing for Bernie's anti-establishment appeal. So lack of media attention and the favored attention for a perceived Establishment candidate, like Hillary, also favors Bernie in the current political climate.

Hillary has been steadily slipping while Bernie has been steadily gaining.

Bernie's going to win in Iowa and New Hampshire. Once he has the first two wins under his belt, he's going to have a lot of enthusiasm behind him.

If there is a media conspiracy to favor one candidate, you have to look at who their actions are actually helping, IMO.

a reply to: newWorldSamurai

Of course the MSM is in the tank for Hillary. Just as they were in the tank for Obama. Nothing new there really.

What is interesting, at least to me, is the question of who exactly is CNN targeting? Put another way......who watches CNN? I rather doubt anyone under 30 ever looks at CNN. The under 30 crowd doesn't watch TV. They get all their news soundbites via their smartphones and Facebook.

If we ask ourselves honestly who watches CNN, I think we know the answer....only Obama's base watches CNN. So, CNN's campaign to get Hillary elected is pointedly directed at Obama's base of voters. That'll probably work to a large extent, but.....how meaningful is that when the CNN debate drew in 5 Million fewer viewers?

So really what we're witnessing is the decline of the MSM into dinosaur status. The real campaign is being waged on smartphones via Facebook and Twitter.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: newWorldSamurai

Big money doesn't want Bernie to be president. THE PEOPLE do. That's why it's so important not to believe the crap the MSM is pushing.

You mean the DEMOCRAT people do. There is a different between the Democrat base and the entire country.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: newWorldSamurai

Big money doesn't want Bernie to be president. THE PEOPLE do. That's why it's so important not to believe the crap the MSM is pushing.

You mean the DEMOCRAT people do. There is a different between the Democrat base and the entire country.

Ha! Let's not sell his support short here. I am sure there are many corrupt members of Congress that would love to not bid out contracts and spend money under Bernie's plan.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: newWorldSamurai

Big money doesn't want Bernie to be president. THE PEOPLE do. That's why it's so important not to believe the crap the MSM is pushing.

You mean the DEMOCRAT people do. There is a different between the Democrat base and the entire country.

I'm not Democrat, but I support Bernie.

does anyone think Bernie will get anywhere, or get anything through, the republican congress?.....c'mon.....talk about being delusional. I already know that the republicans in congress do not like Hillary, but Bernie??....a self-proclaimed socialist??.....why don't all these people that are manic for Bernie Sanders over hillary, work to throw out the republicans in congress, rather than whining about Bernie or Hillary being president.....of course, its seems I"m the only one here, that talks about throwing those bastards out.

a reply to: amicktd

If someone put a gun to my head and forced me to pull the lever for either Bernie or Hillary...I'd vote Bernie in a heart beat.

originally posted by: jimmyx
does anyone think Bernie will get anywhere, or get anything through, the republican congress?.....c'mon.....talk about being delusional. I already know that the republicans in congress do not like Hillary, but Bernie??....a self-proclaimed socialist??.....why don't all these people that are manic for Bernie Sanders over hillary, work to throw out the republicans in congress, rather than whining about Bernie or Hillary being president.....of course, its seems I"m the only one here, that talks about throwing those bastards out.

You'll be happy to know that I have posted a couple of comments regarding Congress and how corrupt they are. I shudder at the thought of them spending money on Bernie's stimulus plan...or any candidate's plan for anything.

originally posted by: jimmyx
does anyone think Bernie will get anywhere, or get anything through, the republican congress?.....c'mon.....talk about being delusional. I already know that the republicans in congress do not like Hillary, but Bernie??....a self-proclaimed socialist??.....why don't all these people that are manic for Bernie Sanders over hillary, work to throw out the republicans in congress, rather than whining about Bernie or Hillary being president.....of course, its seems I"m the only one here, that talks about throwing those bastards out.

We're not whining, just calling out media on their propaganda. Before Bernie I could've cared less about an election anyways.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: newWorldSamurai

Big money doesn't want Bernie to be president. THE PEOPLE do. That's why it's so important not to believe the crap the MSM is pushing.

You mean the DEMOCRAT people do. There is a different between the Democrat base and the entire country.

the democrat base???....is that the opposite of the republic base??....geez, that sounds like "frank Luntz speak"....
www.sourcewatch.org... republic wordsmith that came up with "death taxes" to replace "inheritance taxes" for republic politicians and pundits

a reply to: UnBreakable

Billionaires and their ponies, or sports teams, or whatever...
They make money from the entertainment value that common folk give it.

Outright buying a political candidate, Walker, Rubio, Clinton?
(Or buying a candidacy ala Trump?)

The Supreme Court said it was okay. So it must be okay, right?

originally posted by: amicktd

originally posted by: jimmyx
does anyone think Bernie will get anywhere, or get anything through, the republican congress?.....c'mon.....talk about being delusional. I already know that the republicans in congress do not like Hillary, but Bernie??....a self-proclaimed socialist??.....why don't all these people that are manic for Bernie Sanders over hillary, work to throw out the republicans in congress, rather than whining about Bernie or Hillary being president.....of course, its seems I"m the only one here, that talks about throwing those bastards out.

We're not whining, just calling out media on their propaganda. Before Bernie I could've cared less about an election anyways.

did you take a look at the poll?....and where it came from?....and the methodology used?.....the associated articles at the website don't seem to bash many republicans, I'm shocked!!

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: amicktd

originally posted by: jimmyx
does anyone think Bernie will get anywhere, or get anything through, the republican congress?.....c'mon.....talk about being delusional. I already know that the republicans in congress do not like Hillary, but Bernie??....a self-proclaimed socialist??.....why don't all these people that are manic for Bernie Sanders over hillary, work to throw out the republicans in congress, rather than whining about Bernie or Hillary being president.....of course, its seems I"m the only one here, that talks about throwing those bastards out.

We're not whining, just calling out media on their propaganda. Before Bernie I could've cared less about an election anyways.

did you take a look at the poll?....and where it came from?....and the methodology used?.....the associated articles at the website don't seem to bash many republicans, I'm shocked!!

Post a link, and I'll check it out. Did you take a look at the link I posted?

a reply to: newWorldSamurai

None of those are scientific polls.

originally posted by: amicktd

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: newWorldSamurai

Big money doesn't want Bernie to be president. THE PEOPLE do. That's why it's so important not to believe the crap the MSM is pushing.

You mean the DEMOCRAT people do. There is a different between the Democrat base and the entire country.

I'm not Democrat, but I support Bernie.

Maybe I should have said leftist then? Or socialist? Or communist?

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: newWorldSamurai

Big money doesn't want Bernie to be president. THE PEOPLE do. That's why it's so important not to believe the crap the MSM is pushing.

You mean the DEMOCRAT people do. There is a different between the Democrat base and the entire country.

the democrat base???....is that the opposite of the republic base??....geez, that sounds like "frank Luntz speak"....
www.sourcewatch.org... republic wordsmith that came up with "death taxes" to replace "inheritance taxes" for republic politicians and pundits

It's the same thing. When someone dies, the state thinks they can take a large chunk of their property. Where does the state think that suddenly it has any right to what was someone's property just because that person died, especially if that person has heirs to pass the property on to? If the person had not died, they could give that property away, and the state would get none of it.

So, yes, the tax only happens because the owner dies.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: amicktd

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: newWorldSamurai

Big money doesn't want Bernie to be president. THE PEOPLE do. That's why it's so important not to believe the crap the MSM is pushing.

You mean the DEMOCRAT people do. There is a different between the Democrat base and the entire country.

I'm not Democrat, but I support Bernie.

Maybe I should have said leftist then? Or socialist? Or communist?

Haha, whatever gets the corruption out of Washington I'm ok with.