End of ISIS? Terror group 'on verge of defeat' as Russian jets cut off arms supplies!

a reply to: anxiouswens

Good news and great dissection. Would usually balk at any foreign affairs the Express writes but them portraying Russia in a positive light is unheard of and has me highly intrigued and journalism instinct is saying they may be right due to ISIS second in command being killed in one of the airstrikes and reports of troops from various countries working together amassing for land invasion (note to self: research who's involved if true and how trustworthy sources are before posting vague memories of other articles).

Plus it makes perfect sense for Russia to need to cut off any Russia are making the US look amateur and if things continue at this rate ISIS will hopefully be wiped out the planet - and I say this as a peace loving, Russia hating anti-war hippy.

I hate pretty much everything about Putin for his backwards views on almost every area, especially rights but he's really stood up and taken control of the situation when the world needed it most (polar opposite of what he did in Ukraine and Georgia). he's the kind of psychotic criminal bastard the world needs some times to take order of things.

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: Bloodydagger
The only way to get rid of ISIS is by using brute force and going to War. Which is what America should have done and its what Russia is doing now. Russia is doing what America didn't have the balls to do.

That's like saying "the only way to get rid of Communism is through brute force." You cannot destroy an idea with bombs. You would think Putin would have learned that in the KGB.

Usually I would agree 100% but ISIS's mentality and brutality is based on trying to recreate their completely wrong idea of 700AD Muslim Culture. I imagine the majority of members will be 'innocent salve fighters' faced with either joining ISIS or having their families publicly executed and torured. Communism has some sense to it but failed in practice, ISIS on the other jad are lunatics with no limits.

IMO Sadly bombs seem the only way to get rid of such a barbaric society before the general public become desensitized and see it as a normsl part of life and society; as the level of ISIS's brutality and immorality is so shocking and warped I can only hope there's only less than 1% of people in the world with such warped minds they're capable of creating a group as savage.

Though admittedly it could just as likely lead to an even more barbaric group elsewhere (i.e Yemen in retaliation if I'm wrong (which history usually shows is the case)

a reply to: JDmOKI

LMAO

a reply to: RyleeNator

Russia holds it soldiers and pilots accountable for civilian casualties

So then we should see something soon from Russia holding it's pilots accountable for this...

Apparent Russian airstrikes on Talbiseh in northern Homs that killed at least 17 civilians should be investigated for possible violations of the laws of war. Two local media activists and two first responders said that the September 30, 2015 strikes hit a residential part of town at a distance from any apparent military targets and that no combatants were killed in the strike.

According to a report by Russia 24, a state-owned news channel, Talbiseh was one of several towns in Homs struck by Russian forces on September 30.

www.hrw.org...

Can't wait to see them hold a pilot accountable for these civilian deaths, but I really don't expect it to happen.

After reading through this post, one thing seems clear, everyone seems to think ISIS is in the verge of collapse. I'm not understanding this, why does everyone here think the Russian bombing campaign is accomplishing so much more than the USAs?

Not sure how many of you people are over there to witness what must be a massive falling back of ISIS troops and accompanying loss of territory.

Nothing permanent will be accomplished unless boots are put on the ground.

And honestly, do you not all see what is really going on here? Russia wants to run an oil pipeline though Syria and cannot with ISIS and rebels running wild. Furthermore, they are protecting their naval base. Russia and Putin are no different than the USA. Everything Putin is doing, he is doing in his own self interest. If Russia had no investment in Syria, they would not be there now.

Open your eyes, he is no hero.

These terrorists in the ME only got strong and took land because they were "fighting" other Muslims with no desire to fight. They dropped their arms and ran, as it has already been proven.
Now take it that you are one of these terrorists, they are not stupid (well some are), you have a ball doing what you want with the normal meek habitants. Then along comes a force that WILL kill and eradicate you, you are going to die, not honourably for your virgins but nasty bloody painful death. What would YOU do?
I know what I'd do. The perfect opportunity to get out and live, probably to carry on the fight some-where else.
Please scoff if you want but the majority of these terrorists haven't been wiped out and killed. Their numbers have been depleted because they have moved with the migrants. The perfect get out of jail card.
They have ran because when it comes to fighting a well trained armed force they are as nothing and like the Palstinians merge back into the population to hide til the next time they want to sneak out and "fight".

a reply to: nightbringr

You can't necessarily bomb a man with a gun. But you can take out all of there assets. Without transportation and weapons stash it will be hard for ISIS to fight.

Why do you think the US just dropped 50 tons of ammunition to the terrorist? Because the bombing effectively eliminated the terrorist ammo supplies.

Russia will not run out of bombs and ammo. If Russia can cut off supplies ISIS will.

The US wasn't trying to cut off supplies. They were and are giving them supplies.

Open your eyes, he was invited by the Syrians and the Syrians will record him as a hero, whether you like it or not.

originally posted by: MarioOnTheFly
You guys are all wrong. The American experts have done an in depth psychological analysis on Putin off of youtube video...and the conclusion is...he most probably has aspergers sindrome, and is a lunatic...with Great Russia motive. After he deals with ISIS, he will turn to Baltic states...and start taking them one by one.

Save yourselves !!!!!!!

Haha. I don't know anything about Putin but this argument is silly and wrong. Aspergers are not lunatics. Quite the opposite. My best friend has aspergers and I'd rather have him as world leader than my "normal" friends.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

It's a war, civilians die in war. Bombs miss targets. Many civilians have died in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya due to America's failed ME policy. Pot meet Kettle.

originally posted by: Isurrender73
a reply to: Indigo5

Oh yes the Libyans, Iraqis and the Syrians are all going to have amnesia and forget the US caused all there problems and blame Russia for fixing them.

Wow...Putin is fixing nothing...The USA has propped up tyrannical dictators in the Middle east through money and arms..

Now Russia is doing the same thing with indiscriminate BOMBS ...and yes on civilians..

Russia is in for a huge crap-storm of terrorism..again Putin expects it and will use terrorist attacks on the homeland to cement his crackdown and rule at home. Hell...Putin might even blow something up himself in Moscow if terrorists take too long to succeed. It's worked for him in the past.

a reply to: nightbringr

After reading through this post, one thing seems clear, everyone seems to think ISIS is in the verge of collapse. I'm not understanding this, why does everyone here think the Russian bombing campaign is accomplishing so much more than the USAs?

Because they believe the Russian propaganda machine. Every day, Tass, Sputnik, and RT.com run identical articles, illustrated with stock photographs of Russian airplanes, in which some Russian officer or other claims that they have dropped x number of bombs with 100% accuracy at some vaguely indicated target ("somewhere in the Aleppo District" shades of The Man From UNCLE!) without any accounting of actual casualties. Admittedly, it's hard to count bodies from 30,000 feet but, come on, your intel should at least be able to project an estimate. They have been claiming that ISIS will collapse in a matter of hours for two weeks now. And yet none of the Putinistas smells anything fishy.

a reply to: Isurrender73

I'm sure everyone's super excited we have two countries (Russia,USA) both doing the same type of dirty work. It almost like Russia hasn't had a failed foreign policy at the expense of civilians.

Russians are still Soviets hasn't been that long since they simply changed names.

a reply to: DJW001

The Russians better hope this is over soon. Sounds like they are greatly underestimating their enemy if they think ready to die fanatics are just gonna roll over in a few weeks without a ground troop surge

originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: Isurrender73

I'm sure everyone's super excited we have two countries (Russia,USA) both doing the same type of dirty work. It almost like Russia hasn't had a failed foreign policy at the expense of civilians.

Russians are still Soviets hasn't been that long since they simply changed names.

Russia wouldn't be there if the US didn't take out Saddam, Gaddafi and arm terrorist to take out Assad.

The Syrians, Iraqis and Libyans are not morons. They all understand the idea of civilian casualties and Russia will be forgiven, since they were invited.

Putin will be the hero while the leaders of the US war machine should face prosecution.

If NATO would have stayed out of Ukraine, Russia would have never felt the need to intervene. Perhaps you don't remember the Cuban Missile Crisis.

No one wants bombs on there borders, NATO forced Russias hand by threatening to arm Ukraine.

NATO and the US have been the new axis of evil ever since the end of the cold war. This is not a debate, it is a statement of facts.

a reply to: Isurrender73

It's a war, civilians die in war. Bombs miss targets.

I guess then the next time the US drops ordinance and civilian's get caught by it that is okay because it's a war and civilians die.

Many civilians have died in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya due to America's failed ME policy. Pot meet Kettle.

But wait didn't you just say it is okay because in a war civilians die?

Or is it just okay when Russia does it?

There's your pot meet kettle.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Was the US invited by a Sovereign Nations leader?NO, NO, NO

Was Russia invited by a Sovereign Nations leader? YES

Only the US violated the Geneva convention. Only the leaders of the US are guilty of international war crimes.

Technically speaking, with Assads approval Putin can blow up the whole damm country without violating any laws.

Legal actions vs. Illegal actions. No hypocrisy and no Pot and Kettle. I don't believe Putin is a saint, but I know for a fact America's leaders are war criminals.

Deny Ignorance

a reply to: Indigo5

Russia is in for a huge crap-storm of terrorism..

I imagine there are some hardcore jihadists in Chechnya already making plans.

As it seems they are deemed as occupiers by many.

In the statement, over 41 rebel groups, including the powerful Ahrar al-Sham Movement, deemed the Russian military intervention in Syria as an “occupation”, and urged regional countries to form a coalition in order to face the Russian-led group which also includes Iran, Iraq and Syria.

www.jihadwatch.org...

Russia better hope this isn't a modern day Afghanistan for them, as that didn't end well for them.

originally posted by: Isurrender73

originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: Isurrender73

I'm sure everyone's super excited we have two countries (Russia,USA) both doing the same type of dirty work. It almost like Russia hasn't had a failed foreign policy at the expense of civilians.

Russians are still Soviets hasn't been that long since they simply changed names.

Russia wouldn't be there if the US didn't take out Saddam, Gaddafi and arm terrorist to take out Assad.

The Syrians, Iraqis and Libyans are not morons. They all understand the idea of civilian casualties and Russia will be forgiven, since they were invited.

Putin will be the hero while the leaders of the US war machine should face prosecution.

So...ya..guys like Sadam Hussein and Bashir al-Assad certainly "understand the idea of civilian casualties"...but not so much the actual civilians those bombs land on.

Again...The US engages in precision Drone strikes in the ME, where civilian casualties are minimal and infrequent...and it still has made the US the Devil across large parts of the Arab world.

But you think Russian pilots dropping bombs on cities will get a pass and be "forgiven" by the civilians they are bombing? And Putin will be considered a hero for blowing them up?

Damn...that is some serious disconnect.

Here are some pics of a 3 year old Syrian boy with shrapnel lodged in his head from a Russian air strike..
www.dailymail.co.uk... ehead-airstrike.html

Tell me again how the Syrians are Ok with being bombed and Putin is a hero.

I think people may be misisng the goal of the US. Their goal is STALEMATE - they do not want a winner. I know that individual factions on Syria are fighting for different (religious, cultural and other) reasons but this is the (what I think) the global picture for the US:

Iraq was cancelling out Iran and Syria was cancelling out Saudia Arabia prior to any gulf wars. The pawns for the middle east chess board for US and Russia was evenly balanced. When US invaded Iraq, essentially a power vacuum was created which gave Iran and Syria/Russian allies the upper hand. So the revolution in Syria, while there is no outcome means that Syria and Iran are pumping money into the fighting and becoming exhausted. War is expensive. The US (and for that matter UK) may say what they like about ISIS but they are an opposition that continues the stalemate.

All through the Syrian war have you noticed that US pumps in money/arms to do enough to keep the war going - and not enough to win the war outright. They have recently upgraded the arms to the "rebels" since Russia came into the war but why did they not do that months ago - if they wanted a quick end to the war?

So until Russia got involved, I think the US/UK have been playing tactically exactly as they wanted to - long slow bleeding of Syria. And I know the real outcry should be - by deliberately prolonging the war, more innocent people are being killed.

a reply to: Isurrender73

So wait Russia has done no wrong since the end of the cold war? Assad controls like 25% of Syria right now so how does he have all this approval? 25% isn't even close to a majority.

So because Russia is invited he can blow up the "whole damn country" see this is exactly the reason why this situation is scary.

BUT BUT USA is really bad and stuff so Russia gets to blow stuff up now. I hate to break it to you but Russia has been arming countries since the cold war. every rebel on the planet uses an AK-47

and don't post "deny ignorance" makes you sound elitist and unable to see others point of view. Or you can just claim I'm a MSM zombie of the West because I don't bow to the Putin is a saint BS

a reply to: Isurrender73

Was the US invited by a Sovereign Nations leader?NO, NO, NO

Does he have a problem with it, because they have been shown on record as saying if they didn't give the okay for any military action in Syria would be considered an act against Syria and they would not stay idle...yet we don't see Syria shooting at US planes or shooting one down, why?

Could it be because they gave the okay...something the US wouldn't like getting out that they are working with the same government they want gone, as that doesn't go over well.

Was Russia invited by a Sovereign Nations leader? YES

I never said they weren't.

Only the US violated the Geneva convention. Only the leaders of the US are guilty of international war crimes.

Ah yes because Putin and Assad are such good people and do nothing wrong that would violate the Geneva convention...you believe that don't you?

Technically speaking, with Assads approval Putin can blow up the whole damm country without violating any laws.

Pretty sure there are laws about killing civilians during wartime.

Legal actions vs. Illegal actions. No hypocrisy and no Pot and Kettle. I don't believe Putin is a saint, but I know for a fact America's leaders are war criminals.

Unlike Putin who has Chechnya, Georgia, and Ukraine where he invaded on false pretenses and still sends weapons and training to separatists in Ukraine...your right he isn't close to the US leadership.

Oh wait I almost forgot what he has done to his own people...it's all good because the US leadership is nothing but war criminals, and Putin would never do anything that makes him a war criminal.

Deny Ignorance

That's good advice you should try it sometime.