INTIFADA THREAT: Israel sends in troops to quell Palestinian attacks

originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
a reply to: dashen

Do you think it is more pleasant for a baby to be stabbed or to be burned alive ?
People - including babies - will be targeted for being jewish as long as Israel doesn't stop it's crimes.

Poor jews ! But you just don't give a f... about goyims right ?

What do you mean? The Palestinians don't have any regard for their own kids. They send them out as suicide bombers and Hamas uses them as human shields. At least Israel won't sacrifice their own offspring, unlike those animals.

"Child suicide bombers: Palestine Gaza babies – the Martyrs for Alla"

"Child suicide bombers in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict refers to the exploitation of children to carry out suicide bombings by Palestinian militant groups. Minors have been recruited to attack Israeli targets, both military and civilian, especially during the Second Intifada from 2000 to 2005. This deliberate involvement of children in armed conflict has been condemned by International human rights organizations.
According to Amnesty International, “Palestinian armed groups have repeatedly shown total disregard for the most fundamental human rights, notably the right to life, by deliberately targeting Israeli civilians and by using Palestinian children in armed attacks. Children are susceptible to recruitment by manipulation or may be driven to join armed groups for a variety of reasons, including a desire to avenge relatives or friends killed by the Israeli army.”
themuslimissue.wordpress.com...

originally posted by: voyger2

End the Occupation!
Stop the Siege!
Free Palestine!

So you think if these 3 things happen (as if Israel can free a people who are ruled by terrorists), Palestinians will stop making war and stop trying to wipe out the jews? When Israel pulled out of the west bank, Palestinians responded with rocket artillery attacks.

originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
a reply to: dashen

Did the previous diplomatic attempts end the Palestinian violence ?
No. Why ?
Because in the same time those diplomatic agreements failed to put an end to the settlement policy.

No more scapegoat, sorry.
Let Israel deal with the consequences of its own actions.

ACtually....the vilolence was going on BEFORE th e settlements started happenning. those in th e west bank are recent compared to the rest of Israel. And since those people have no real country they can be considered refugees since Jordan will not claim th eland it is owed because its keeping its dissidents there. Jordan deserves blame for allowing this to go on itself. They should recalim it per resolution 242 by recognizing israel a s a country(pre 67 borders) They gave back Gaza to egypt and they recognized Israel. why cant the Jordanians?

originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke

originally posted by: dashen

Besides the ones that never left they also came in waves in the 1200s 1400s and mid 1800s.
And then the large wave after world war 2

Jewish settlers began improving it starting in the 1850s.

So they were there before the Jewish presence started to 'improve' the place.

There were Jewish palestinians there before the creation of israel. Alot of them had relatives who lived in europe. ALl over europe to be exact. They had german relatives,french,russian and so on. SO this whole business about not being jew enough is really silly in truth.

So then they invite their relatives to stay in th e newly created israel. Th eonly thing that changed was The palestinian jews adopted the name of their new homeland. Thats it. WHat would had happenned if they kep calling themselves Palestinian? The PLO would had called themselves Israelis instead.

Whats hilarious is ALL YOU WHO BUY INTO THIS PSY OP OF PALESTINIAN Statehood. It was NEVER a country LEGALLY. The ROMANS renamed it ILLEGALLY by todays standards. The maps they drew and made sure to distribute... FORGERIES to be completely honest. MAtter of fact ALL ROMAN MAPS need to be questioned.

Rome was famous for using tactics like this because no one was going to call them on their BS.

a reply to: UnBreakable

Do Israel have respect for its childrens when they do not agree with its policies ?

a reply to: yuppa

Translation :

It all starts like a Kafka story. One morning, and you've done nothing about it, someone is knocking at your door. It's a guy who says he lived in your flat at a time when the building wasn't build yet. He explains that the owner promised him that the city council would allow him to "come back" there. You say it's not possible but he already rushed to occupy the guest room. The day after, you call your neighbour to help you kick out your "guest", who in the meantime, helped himself in the fridge and put both feet under the table but he defends himself. Soon, his cousins, nephews, uncles and aunts come by and start using all the rooms. Your wife and kids are forced to leave the apartment and find shelter further in the neighbourhood. Feeling uncomfortable because of the neighbours that are supporting you (even if one of them took this as an opportunity to use your garage), your "guest", thanks to the janitor that supports him, empties the remaining of the building in order to feel safer. Because you are getting angry, your guest, who is stronger than you, locks you up in the toilets without providing any food or giving you any chance to go out. He shouts to the door that everybody agrees with the situation anyway. After a while, you are so angry that you set the toilets on fire. The fire-fighters come to extinguish the arson that hit part of the apartment and where some of the family members of your guest died too. When the fire-fighters move away the your burned corpse, your guest spit on you and shouts "terrorist".

27 May 2004

Marc-Edouard Nabe - J'enfonce le clou

So here is some live footage of some of the clashes in Bethlehem. . . .



Live images of clashes between Israeli forces, Palestinian people in Beit El, Bethlehem

originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
a reply to: UnBreakable

Do Israel have respect for its childrens when they do not agree with its policies ?

So your comparing not having respect of policies to blowing up kids your own kids who don't know what they're doing. You need a reality check.

a reply to: UnBreakable

Where is the reality check when you put in place a system that forces the members of your youth to sacrifice many of their 'golden years' for military occupation enforcement duties ?
And you lock them behind bars if they don't agree.

Military service is OK, mandatory medium-term enrolment is another level.

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: DeathSlayer

originally posted by: intrptr

Israel heating up, more attacks by Palestinian youth. Israel has its military now involved; assisting the police.

That reads both ways.

Palestine heating up. Invaders threaten Palestinians with more military mayhem for resisting the Occupation of their homeland.

Killing one another is not the answer for any reason.

Explain that to countries occupied by foreign armies.

A "country" ran by a terrorist organization who's supreme goal is to wipe out their neighbor.

You just described Israel. "Palestine" was a peaceful nation before the Jews arrived after WWII.

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: DeathSlayer

originally posted by: intrptr

Israel heating up, more attacks by Palestinian youth. Israel has its military now involved; assisting the police.

That reads both ways.

Palestine heating up. Invaders threaten Palestinians with more military mayhem for resisting the Occupation of their homeland.

Killing one another is not the answer for any reason.

Explain that to countries occupied by foreign armies.

A "country" ran by a terrorist organization who's supreme goal is to wipe out their neighbor.

You just described Israel. "Palestine" was a peaceful nation before the Jews arrived after WWII.

No the jews were there before as well. They invited their european cousins to come live with them. The jews there called themselves Jewish palestinians. They lived alongside arabs. The problems didnt start until the creation of ISrael. That at th e time had UN approval and as such was LAWFULLY created. AND the Palestinian arabs had way mor e land but that didnt matter and they attacked. and lost. An d in reparation lost th e land they owned.

Still under international law at th etime of israels creation,"palestine" was not a nation. No matter how many times you deny it it never was a nation. ROME renamed it illegally to begin with for SPITE.

a reply to: voyger2

Voyager... how very hypocritical. you do know he wa s posting what you said to Illustrate a point correct? A PAge back you said the opposite of what he said. And now since its on a new page youre trying to act liek you have moral superioority. Bad form im afraid.

The point though getting back to the topic is this is a situation that can be easily resolved if the parties involved would stop with the slights and snubs and ignore th esmall attacks here and there and keep cease fires going. Also Resolution 242 MUST be enforced for peace to happen.

Israel MUST be recognized(yet again) as a valid nation(pre 67 borders according to the agreement) And Jordan MUST reclaim its territory even IF it dont want to, FORCE jordan to reclaim it if need be. They just dont want to deal with it and as such let israel deal with it.

a reply to: yuppa

he problems didn't start until the creation of ISrael.

Thats what I said.

originally posted by: voyger2

originally posted by: UnBreakable

Continue the Occupation!
Move forward with the Siege!
Enslave Palestine!

UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS

Article 1.
All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

Article 3.
Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.

Article 4.
No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.

Article 9.
No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.

Article 15.
(1) Everyone has the right to a nationality.

As we all can see, by you're own declarations/statements: You're a racist (Move forward with the Siege), unlawful (Continue the Occupation) and inhuman person (Enslave Palestine).

No one should respect your opinion on this subject any more.
Shameful indeed.

Hey Jackwagon, my signature was a tongue-in-cheeck opposite response to your signature on every reply you gave. You obviously have a comprehension problem with irony and satire. And no, I'm not a racist, unlawful, and inhuman, just a realist concerning the situation over there. Just because it doesn't fall lockstep into your agenda and narrative, you come to an erroneous judgement.

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: yuppa

he problems didn't start until the creation of ISrael.

Thats what I said.

Thats not what I have you quoted as saying. you said AFter WW2. they were there BEFORE WW2 though. ANd ALso Palestine was not a nation but called the area of palestine. remember to be a nation you have to have a government. they never had one themselves.

a reply to: theultimatebelgianjoke

Thanks for that translation, that was poignant… bookmarked.

originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
a reply to: UnBreakable

Where is the reality check when you put in place a system that forces the members of your youth to sacrifice many of their 'golden years' for military occupation enforcement duties ?
And you lock them behind bars if they don't agree.

Military service is OK, mandatory medium-term enrolment is another level.

It's still a more humane system than sending out your own offspring as suicide bombers. I'd bet most Palestinian kids would choose their "golden years" for military service than being blown up against their will and having no "golden years" at all if given the choice. Your counter-argument is completely asinine.

Israeli Jew stabs another Jew because he looked like an Arab. This wasn't a terrorist attack, but it would be if the attacker was an Arab and also get his house demolished.
www.theguardian.com...

a reply to: yuppa

Thats not what I have you quoted as saying. you said AFter WW2.

Exactly.