School district bans Halloween to accommodate ‘cultural beliefs’

a reply to: Gryphon66

Propaganda? LOL ... I've backed up what I've said repeatedly with quoted materials.

So then, you don't know the meaning of propaganda. I suspected such. or at least that you would deny it. Because: perfect.

I want you to state, clearly, that you are denying that there is a national Christian effort to condemn Halloween.

I CLEARLY deny. 90% of Christians don't give a rat's ass about Halloween, other than keeping their children safe from predators and harmful treats. It is the usual smaller groups, the fundamentalists who likely have a hand in this.

And, as before, I encourage you to ignore what I'm writing if it offends you. That's certainly your perogative.

I assume you are aware that door swings both ways
.

So, basically what I'm saying here is, if you feel that I'm spewing propaganda by pointing out the facts, it is indeed you who are trying to suppress the truth, not me.

I don't recall saying propaganda doesn't contain facts. But only very selective facts, one uses to support their extreme position.

a reply to: Gryphon66

I hypothesized that in some cases those "religious differences" might have come from Christians,

Yes you did, and with that you derailed the thread.

Meh. I'm done with you. Blather accuse ridicule. Rinse and repeat.

a reply to: angeldoll

I don't agree with your comment and I don't know what a word means: typical.

I've quoted national Christian leaders making comments about Halloween.

You're making up statistics to try to justify your ... point.

LOL ... you're addressing your comments to me. I'm doing you the courtesy of responding: I am amused by the swinging of that door ... moreso the longer it goes on. Your comments aren't upsetting me as mine seem to be upsetting you.
I was just concerned for your welfare.

"Selective facts." Hmmm. Could that also be stated as "facts you find inconvenient."

You are the only one who has said something about "vile Christians" here. Not me.

You are the only one who has claimed that anything is being said about "all Christians" here. Not me.

You are the one trying to deny the reality of what many Christians of national prominence have said.

Should we quote what Kirk Cameron has said about Halloween? Or is he just a fringe Christian as well?

Do you know, for a fact, that the religious differences mentioned by the School Board were NOT Christian in nature?

If not, it sounds like you who are being "selective" in what you want to discuss.

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: Gryphon66

I hypothesized that in some cases those "religious differences" might have come from Christians,

Yes you did, and with that you derailed the thread.

Meh. I'm done with you. Blather accuse ridicule. Rinse and repeat.

I derailed the thread? I made other people like Ketsuko, MBTM and now now you try to deny reality?

LOL ... I suppose that's one perspective. Maybe you should take a break ... you really seem wound up about this.

I hope you feel better.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Yeah, you mentioned my being 'upset' earlier. Sorry, but you don't have the power to upset me. In fact, I've been laughing through most of this. When I said you derailed the thread I was out and out giggling.

Just thought you should know.

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: Gryphon66

Second, Christians in and around Atlanta (north-central Georgia) northern Alabama, Florida ... have been on about the Devil's holiday for years. It's the basis of the "trunk or treat" activities around here.

Can you calm your ego and Christian bigotry down long enough to realize that these things, church parties, school parties, trunk or treat have been created by groups of people to protect their children from receiving dangerous or contaminated candies?

You are right Angel.
All these things started in the 1970's when
there was a huge scare where people
purportedly found razor blades in
Halloween candy and drug laced
Halloween candy.

That is where these "non-door to to"
and staying away from strangers
at Halloween began.
There were even hospitals
who did free xrays of candy
for concerned parents.

Thanks for the reminder, many are
too young to know that this was
the origin of Church parties and
trunk or treat.

a reply to: angeldoll

So then, you don't know the meaning of propaganda. I suspected such. or at least that you would deny it. Because: perfect.

All due respect, but if that is what you call propaganda then you may want to educate yourself on what propaganda really is.

a reply to: grandmakdw

You're welcome!

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: Gryphon66

Yeah, you mentioned my being 'upset' earlier. Sorry, but you don't have the power to upset me. In fact, I've been laughing through most of this. When I said you derailed the thread I was out and out giggling.

Just thought you should know.

But then, you weren't "out" and came back to continue what you were walking away from.

Maybe you're not obsessed or upset, but your words certainly seem to suggest it.

At any rate, be well.

a reply to: grandmakdw

Myths About Pins and Needles in Halloween Candy

Poisoned Candy Myths

Please, keep perpetuating the urban myths.

a reply to: introvert

information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread widely to help or harm a person, group, movement, institution, nation, etc.

You don't have to intentionally LIE to spread propaganda. For example, if I wanted to prove that ALL dogs bite, I would only write about biting dogs.


Now do you see? That's propagandizing a subject, like you have seen here, with the recurring idea that ALL Christians are trying to do away with Halloween. It's simply not true. So when you search and search only for examples that support your position, that is what you are doing.

a reply to: Gryphon66

They aren't myths. It was a while back when it was happening repeatedly. We have even had articles in our local newspaper suggesting families arrange private parties for this reason.

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: Gryphon66

They aren't myths. It was a while back when it was happening repeatedly.

... and you're still here. Just can't let it go? LOL

Check out the links. The matters have been investigated and found overwhelmingly to be rumor and hoaxes.

Why don't you cite something to back up your claim? You know, like we are actually discussing something here.

Don't let the truth stop you from basking in praise for repeating mistakes and errors, however.

a reply to: angeldoll

No one has said that ALL Christians were trying to do with Halloween. How can I take you seriously when you're taking the topic to an extreme?

What they did is provide links to back-up their claims. If is true and validated their claim, how can that be considered propaganda?

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: introvert

information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread widely to help or harm a person, group, movement, institution, nation, etc.

You don't have to intentionally LIE to spread propaganda. For example, if I wanted to prove that ALL dogs bite, I would only write about biting dogs.


Now do you see? That's propagandizing a subject, like you have seen here, with the recurring idea that ALL Christians are trying to do away with Halloween. It's simply not true. So when you search and search only for examples that support your position, that is what you are doing.

Quote where I said all Christians were against Halloween.

Quote where I called Christians whatever their perspective on Halloween "vile."

If you can't, perhaps it is YOU who are spreading "propaganda." Hmmm?

And you who just can't bear to "leave" the conversation, LOL.

a reply to: Gryphon66

But then, you weren't "out" and came back to continue what you were walking away from.

Meh. Not worth it.

At any rate, be well

Yeah, you too. Rainbows, lollipops, unicorns for you.

Are we done yet?

And you who just can't bear to "leave" the conversation, LOL.

I know! I've been having too much fun. But I really do need to stop this, I'm going to start getting those 'off topic' thingies. Which my post are. I just can't help my.self.

Okay, I'm really going this time, so you can have the last word and ridicule me behind my back.

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: Gryphon66

But then, you weren't "out" and came back to continue what you were walking away from.

Meh. Not worth it.

At any rate, be well

Yeah, you too. Rainbows, lollipops, unicorns for you.

Are we done yet?

The "ban" on certain aspects of Halloween in the OP was related to "religious" beliefs and freedoms.

Many (but not all) Christians have a well-known and documented belief that Halloween is "evil."

Perhaps some of the families and parents who had "religious and cultural problems" with Halloween were Christian.

(Thought I'd summarize again for you, since you seem to keep missing it.)

I'm just posting here on a topic that interested me. I shared suppositions, ideas ... and backed it up with evidence.

I'm not sure what your interest is ... so I guess you'll have to answer the question about being "done" ... I thought you were "done" a few posts ago.

I'll be glad to keep pointing out the facts of the matter to you, if you'd like.

a reply to: Azureblue

A country with a singular cultural, religious and racial identity has a lot of pride in that identity.

“Nationality is a good thing to a certain extent, but universality is better. All that is best in the great poets of all countries is not what is national in them, but what is universal. Their roots are in their native soil; but their branches wave in the unpatriotic air, that speaks the same language unto all men, and their leaves shine with the illimitable light that pervades all lands. Let us throw all the windows open; let us admit the light and air on all sides; that we may look towards the four corners of the heavens, and not always in the same direction.”
― Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

Your post honestly read like something i'd see in Mein Kampf.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Milford School Reverses Its Stance - Halloween Back On!

This is not the first time a Halloween grinch has visited Milford. About a decade ago, the issue came up when Bishop Jay Ramirez of the city’s Kingdom Life Christian Church spoke out against the holiday, asking why witches were allowed when religious celebrations were verboten. (Ironically, Halloween has Celtic roots, but also a definitive Christian influence.)
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“A lot of children from Christian backgrounds feel uncomfortable during Halloween.”

It's interesting when the PC shoe is on the other foot, huh?

a reply to: Gryphon66

I guess you'll have to answer the question about being "done" ... I thought you were "done" a few posts ago.

And here I am again! lol! Seriously. Actually I have a doctor's appointment in a little bit. Just amusing myself.

I'll be glad to keep pointing out the facts of the matter to you, if you'd like.

That's generous of you. But I assure you, quite unnecessary. Sigh. Bored now.