Former George Bush Chief Economist Says 911 Was An Inside Job

That wont fly, the photo in question doesn't show anything but some garbage and nothing else.

It does show a no parking sign, I find that strange, since when can you drive around inside the pentagon...?

a reply to: Informer1958

It continues to fly after14 years, and to this very day.

AA77-Radar-Based-Timeline.pdf

* Vertical is 10 minutes Latitude

* One minute Latitude = one NM

* AA77 proceeded at IONM

* AA77 approached at 7.3 NM

www.911myths.com...

a reply to: Informer1958

No German Television did not distort anything, that is a fallacy. That is my comment to Skyeagle.

That won't fly in light of the statement made by the Mayor of Shanksviile who debunked the distorted story of German TV

Ernie Stull (the Mayor of Shanksville)

"My statements were taken completely out of context. Of course there was an airplane.

a reply to: Informer1958

That won't fly either, because after14 years, the facts remained standing to this very day. Let's not forget what al-Qaeda has revealed to the world.

Al-Qaeda Reveals American 77 Hijackers

a reply to: skyeagle409

It continues to fly after14 years, and to this very day.



AA77-Radar-Based-Timeline.pdf

* Vertical is 10 minutes Latitude

* One minute Latitude = one NM

* AA77 proceeded at IONM

* AA77 approached at 7.3 NM

www.911myths.com...

No that wont fly, 911 Myths is not a credible source.

a reply to: skyeagle409

That won't fly either, because after14 years, the facts remained standing to this very day. Let's not forget what al-Qaeda has revealed to the world.

Al-Qaeda Reveals American 77 Hijackers

That wont fly either, after 14 years the OS does not stand and many questions have not been answered yet.

Your photo doesn't fly either because it proves nothing.

a reply to: Informer1958

Apparently, you did not even understand why I posted in that context. You've just revealed yourself and your hidden agenda.

a reply to: Informer1958

That wont fly either,...

It continues to fly to this very day, which simply means you have no case.

a reply to: skyeagle409

Apparently, you did not even understand why I posted in that context. You've just revealed yourself and your hidden agenda.

That wont fly because, the truth does not need a hidden agenda

a reply to: skyeagle409

It continues to fly to this very day, which simply means you have no case.

That wont fly because the OS is based on proven fallacies.

a reply to: Informer1958

Sorry, but the "OS" remains standing to this very day. Let's review what has happened to the Truth Movement over those 14 years.

Disinformation Killed 9/11 “Truth”

By 2009, the 9/11 “Truth” Movement was so inundated with disinformation that it had become a laughingstock. The easily-discredited claims (lies) contaminated the greater issue and soiled dissenters across the board. “Turd blossom” was a Karl Rove phrase that could describe what the movement had devolved into.

The media, whether corporate or foundation-funded, could find people ranting about “the Jews” or the Illuminati, the Lizard People, the missiles, holograms, mini-nukes or space beam weapons vaporizing the Twin Towers.

www.911truth.org...

a reply to: Informer1958

You STILL haven't gotten the hint.

a reply to: skyeagle409

Sorry that wont fly, the OS does not stand.

THE TOP 40 Reasons to Doubt the Official Story

THE TOP 40
REASONS TO DOUBT THE OFFICIAL STORY OF SEPTEMBER 11th, 2001

… An outline in simple talking points …

We are continuing to compile the best documentation links for every single point on this page, and intend to post the updated version as soon as possible, and create teaching tools and more from the info. This is a significant and time-consuming process–if you have useful links, please send them to janice[at]911truth[dot]org. Thanks for your help!
If you use the search function with title key words, you will discover that 911Truth.org is home to articles backing virtually every point made below. Much of the basic research is available at the Complete 9/11 Timeline (hosted by cooperativeresearch.org), the 9/11 Reading Room (911readingroom.org), and the NY Attorney General Spitzer petition and complaint (Justicefor911.org). For physical evidence discussion, see Point 7.

THE DAY ITSELF – EVIDENCE OF COMPLICITY

1) AWOL Chain of Command
a. It is well documented that the officials topping the chain of command for response to a domestic attack – George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Myers, Montague Winfield, Ralph Eberhart – all found reason to do something else during the actual attacks, other than assuming their duties as decision-makers.
b. Who was actually in charge? Dick Cheney, Richard Clarke, Norman Mineta and the 9/11 Commission directly conflict in their accounts of top-level response to the unfolding events, such that several (or all) of them must be lying.

2) Air Defense Failures
a. The US air defense system failed to follow standard procedures for responding to diverted passenger flights.
b. Timelines: The various responsible agencies – NORAD, FAA, Pentagon, USAF, as well as the 9/11 Commission – gave radically different explanations for the failure (in some cases upheld for years), such that several officials must have lied; but none were held accountable.
c. Was there an air defense standdown?

3) Pentagon Strike
How was it possible the Pentagon was hit 1 hour and 20 minutes after the attacks began? Why was there no response from Andrews Air Force Base, just 10 miles away and home to Air National Guard units charged with defending the skies above the nation’s capital? How did Hani Hanjour, a man who failed as a Cessna pilot on his first flight in a Boeing, execute a difficult aerobatic maneuver to strike the Pentagon? Why did the attack strike the just-renovated side, which was largely empty and opposite from the high command?

4) Wargames
a. US military and other authorities planned or actually rehearsed defensive response to all elements of the 9/11 scenario during the year prior to the attack – including multiple hijackings, suicide crashbombings, and a strike on the Pentagon.
b. The multiple military wargames planned long in advance and held on the morning of September 11th included scenarios of a domestic air crisis, a plane crashing into a government building, and a large-scale emergency in New York. If this was only an incredible series of coincidences, why did the official investigations avoid the issue? There is evidence that the wargames created confusion as to whether the unfolding events were “real world or exercise.” Did wargames serve as the cover for air defense sabotage, and/or the execution of an “inside job”?

5) Flight 93
Did the Shanksville crash occur at 10:06 (according to a seismic report) or 10:03 (according to the 9/11 Commission)? Does the Commission wish to hide what happened in the last three minutes of the flight, and if so, why? Was Flight 93 shot down, as indicated by the scattering of debris over a trail of several miles?

THE DAY – POSSIBLE SMOKING GUNS

6) Did cell phones work at 30,000 feet in 2001? How many hijackings were attempted? How many flights were diverted?

7) Demolition Hypothesis
What caused the collapse of a third skyscraper, WTC 7, which was not hit by a plane? Were the Twin Towers and WTC 7 brought down by explosives? (See “The Case for Demolitions,” the websites wtc7.net and 911research.wtc7.net, and the influential article by physicist Steven Jones. See also items no. 16 and 24, below.)[See Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth.

www.911truth.org...

These are just some facts that you haven't gotten.

a reply to: Informer1958

From your link.

3) Pentagon Strike
How was it possible the Pentagon was hit 1 hour and 20 minutes after the attacks began? Why was there no response from Andrews Air Force Base, just 10 miles away and home to Air National Guard units charged with defending the skies above the nation’s capital?

Now, for the rest of the story.

113th Wing, Andrews AFB

"We've never been an air defense unit. We practice scrambles, we know how to do intercepts and other things, but there's a lot of protocol in the air defense business. We obviously didn't have that expertise.

Lt. Colonel Phil Thompson, Chief of Safety for the 113th Wing, Andrews AFB .

...How did Hani Hanjour, a man who failed as a Cessna pilot on his first flight in a Boeing,...

Apparently, Hani Hanuour did not fail as a Cessna pilot, and here is the proof.

Hani Hanjour's Commercial Pilot License

Hani Hanjour's B-737-Type Rating Application

... execute a difficult aerobatic maneuver to strike the Pentagon?

Not difficult at all. I have performed a similar maneuver as a student pilot with less than 30 hours total flight time.

...Why did the attack strike the just-renovated side,

What difference does that make? The Pentagon was struck regardless.

...which was largely empty and opposite from the high command?

That doesn't make any difference either. The Pentagon was struck regardless. Let's continue.

THE DAY – POSSIBLE SMOKING GUNS

6) Did cell phones work at 30,000 feet in 2001?

Let's take another look.

9/11 Airfones vs. Cell Phones

Not one single cell phone call was made above an altitude of 5000 feet. In fact, the overwhelming majority of phone calls were made from Airfones.

4) Wargames
a. US military and other authorities planned or actually rehearsed defensive response to all elements of the 9/11 scenario during the year prior to the attack – including multiple hijackings, suicide crashbombings, and a strike on the Pentagon.

Such drills were scheduled on a regular basis, even before 9/11.

PRE-9/11 PREPARATION AND DEVELOPMENT

Drill Date Scenario
1 NORAD Between 1991 and 2001 Foreign hijacked airliner crashing into famous US building
2 White House, Richard Clarke 1998 Terrorists load Lear Jet with explosive, attack Washington DC
3 NORAD 1999-2001 Hijacked aircraft hit many targets, including WTC, MASCAL
4 Able Danger: DIA, US-SOCOM, LIWA Dec. 1999-2001 Manipulate al Qaeda; data mining (patsy control)
5 Stratus Ivy: DIA Dec. 1999-2001 (?) Operate on patsies “out of the box” (patsy control)
6 Door Hop Galley: DIA (?) Dec. 1999-2001 (?) Still secret (patsy control?)
7 Proactive Pre-emptive Operations Group (P2OG) unknown “Stimulating reactions” of terrorists (patsy control)
8 NORAD (NEADS) Exercises: UN HQ, NYC October 16, 2000 Terrorist crashes Federal Express plane into UN HQ NYC
9 NORAD (NEADS) Exercises: UN HQ NYC October 23, 2000 Terrorist crashes FedEx plane with WMD into UN HQ NYC
10 Pentagon MASCAL exercise Oct. 24-28, 2000 Commercial aircraft hits Pentagon, MASCAL
11 FAA drill December, 2000 Scenario: a chartered flight out of Ohio that had turned its transponder off
12 Positive Force ’01: NORAD plus a dozen agencies; worldwide April 17-26, 2001 COG; attacks on transportation; one scenario: terrorist group hijacking commercial airliner and flying it into Pentagon (Pentagon attack)
13 Unified Vision ’01: US JFCOM; US CENTCOM; US SOCOM: 40 agencies May 7-24, 2001 Invasion of Afghanistan and Pakistan (prepared Operation Enduring Freedom)
14 Red Ex (Recognition, Evaluation, and Decision-Making Exercise); NYC OEM; FDNY; NYPD; FEMA; FBI May 11, 2001 Plane crashes and building collapses in New York City (WTC attack, demolition)
15 Amalgam Virgo ’01: US-Canada multi-agency drill; NORAD; SEADS; Coast Guard, Army, Navy June 1-2, 2001 UAV drone launched from rogue freighter in Gulf of Mexico or cruise missile from barge in Atlantic Ocean; Joint Based Expeditionary Connectivity Center (JBECC) mobile radar command center tested. (Pentagon attack)
16 Mall Strike 2001, Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania (near Shanksville); 600 local first responders and emergency managers June 16, 2001 Toxic chemical agent and the simulated release of radiation and radiological contamination; (indoctrination of first responders).
17 FAA Drill: FBI Miami field office, Miami-Dade County Police Department. Summer 2001 Varig airlines Boeing 767 hijacked over Florida
18 Ft. Belvoir, Davison Army Airfield helicopter base MASCAL June 29, 2001 Scenario based on plane hitting Pentagon (indoctrination of first responders).
19 US Department of Transportation Hijacking Exercise August 31, 2001 US Dept. of Transportation Crisis Management Center drilled hijacks; simulated cell phone calls.
20 NORAD, NEADS (Vigilant Guardian) September 6, 2001 Tokyo to Anchorage flight hijacked by “Mum Hykro” to Vancouver and San Francisco

PRE-9/11 PREPARATION AND DEVELOPMENT (continued)
Drill Date Scenario
21 NORAD, NEADS (Vigilant Guardian) September 6, 2001 Seoul to Anchorage flight hijacked by “Lin Po” to Seattle
22 NORAD, NEADS (Vigilant Guardian) September 9, 2001 UK to NYC flight hijacked, blown up
23 NORAD SEADS NEADS (Vigilant Guardian) September 10, 2001 Ilyushin IL-62 from Cuba hijacked by asylum seekers, lands at Dobbins Air Force Base in Georgia

ON 9/11
Drill Date Scenario
24 FBI training exercise in Monterey, California for FBI/CIA Anti-Terrorist Task Force Through 9/11 Diverts top FBI, CIA anti-terrorist and special operations agents and heavy equipment away from Boston, NYC, Washington DC
25 NORAD annual readiness drill, Cheyenne Mountain, CO (Vigilant Guardian) 9/11 Full ‘battle staff’ levels to test entire organization
26 Vigilant Guardian: NORAD, NEADS, US-Canada 9/11 Live-fly hijacking and air defense; hijack multiplication, diversion and confusion
27 NORAD/JCS Vigilant Warrior Through 9/11 Reported by Richard Clarke
28 Operation Southern Watch Through 9/11 Diverts 174th Fighter Wing, New York Air National Guard, to Sultan Air Base, Saudi Arabia, to impose no-fly zone over southern Iraq
29 Operation Northern Watch Through 9/11 Diverts 6 fighters from Langley AFB sent to Incirlik AFB, Turkey to impose no-fly zone over northern Iraq
30 Operation Northern Vigilance Through 9/11 Diverts fighters, 350 personnel to Alaska and northern Canada to counter a Russian bomber drill

It is apparent the source of your link is not interested in doing homework.

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7) Demolition Hypothesis
What caused the collapse of a third skyscraper, WTC 7,.. which was not hit by a plane?

Now, let's take a look here. I might add that WTC 7 was struck by debris from WTC 1.

Did experts on the scene think WTC 7 was a controlled demolition?

Whom should we ask to find out if WTC 7’s collapse resembled an explosive demolition? How about asking the explosive demolition experts who were on the scene on 9/11? Brent Blanchard of Protec:

"Several demolition teams had reached Ground Zero by 3:00 pm on 9/11, and these individuals witnessed the collapse of WTC 7 from within a few hundred feet of the event.

We have spoken with several who possess extensive experience in explosive demolition, and all reported seeing or hearing nothing to indicate an explosive detonation precipitating the collapse.

As one eyewitness told us, "We were all standing around helpless...we knew full well it was going to collapse. Everyone there knew. You gotta remember there was a lot of confusion and we didn't know if another plane was coming...but I never heard explosions like demo charges.

We knew with the damage to the building and how hot the fire was, that building was gonna go, so we just waited, and a little later it went."

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WTC7

So we go there and on the north and east side of 7 it didn’t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn’t look good.

Boyle: There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered throughout there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably about a third of it, right in the middle of it. And so after Visconti came down and said nobody goes in 7, we said all right, we’ll head back to the command post.

Hayden: Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors. It came down about 5 o’clock in the afternoon, but by about 2 o’clock in the afternoon we realized this thing was going to collapse.

WTC Building 7 appears to have suffered significant damage at some point after the WTC Towers had collapsed, according to firefighters at the scene. Firefighter Butch Brandies tells other firefighters that nobody is to go into Building 7 because of creaking and noises coming out of there. [Firehouse Magazine, 8/02]

Battalion Chief John Norman later recalls, "At the edge of the south face you could see that it is very heavily damaged." [Firehouse Magazine, 5/02]

Heavy, thick smoke rises near 7 World Trade Center. Smoke is visible from the upper floors of the 47-story building. Firefighters using transits to determine whether there was any movement in the structure were surprised to discover that is was moving. The area was evacuated and the building collapsed later in the afternoon of Sept. 11.

www.debunking911.com...

Photo: WTC 7 South Wall

The damage on the south wall of WTC 7 was so severe, that WTC 7 tilted toward the south in the final seconds of its collapse.

Were the Twin Towers and WTC 7 brought down by explosives?

No!

a reply to: skyeagle409

From your link.

3) Pentagon Strike
How was it possible the Pentagon was hit 1 hour and 20 minutes after the attacks began? Why was there no response from Andrews Air Force Base, just 10 miles away and home to Air National Guard units charged with defending the skies above the nation’s capital?

That wont work.

I just want to make this very clear to you. I did not write the above quote.

I do not know who's post you grab that from but it was not mine.

Again no sources for your claims.

a reply to: skyeagle409

7) Demolition Hypothesis
What caused the collapse of a third skyscraper, WTC 7,.. which was not hit by a plane?

I never wrote this quote either.

You need to stop grabbing other ATS members quotes and pretending their mine.

The OS is a lie and full of unanswered questions.

a reply to: Informer1958

These are just some facts that you haven't gotten.

2) Air Defense Failures
a. The US air defense system failed to follow standard procedures for responding to diverted passenger flights.

Our air defenses are geared to deal with external threats from enemy bombers, not civilian aircraft inside our borders. Case in point.

Death Ends 1,600-Mile Flight Of Learjet Stolen by Mechanic

DENVER, May 25— A flight mechanic who did not have a pilot's license stole a private jet in Virginia early today and flew it 1,600 miles to Denver, where he shot himself to death as the authorities closed in, officials said.

www.nytimes.com...

It took well over an hour to intercept Payne Stewart's Lear Jet and the F-16 wasn't even an interceptor on duty.

Payne Stewart Lear Jet Tragedy

www.cnn.com...

b. Timelines: The various responsible agencies – NORAD, FAA, Pentagon, USAF, as well as the 9/11 Commission – gave radically different explanations for the failure (in some cases upheld for years), such that several officials must have lied; but none were held accountable.

That was the result of mass confusion.

c. Was there an air defense standdown?

Take a look here.

a reply to: skyeagle409

Your sources does not prove the OS true.

a reply to: Informer1958

It already has!