I'm sick and the Dr's are clueless

originally posted by: Badgered1
Have they checked for a bacterial infection?

It sure sound bacterial, parasitical or viral.

hmmm ... when traditional western medicine fails ... may be time to give an alternative a try

a reply to: crimsongod21

Your labs are all normal?

a reply to: crimsongod21

Can you please tell me if your WBC and/or your neutrophil count was elevated? do not discount appendix just yet! The body does not always behave as text book cases...example It took the doctors 3 months to diagnose my gall bladder was bad not stones but stopped functioning! Emergency surgery saved my life! They were not able to detect my gall bladder as being bad because I was having such severe colic that it would lay flat as in normal and then completely crunch into a ball!!

I spent 2 separate occasions in the hospital with doctors telling me 'there is absolutely nothing going on with your abdomen, intestines etc.....yet a month later i was so sick because my gall bladder almost ruptured!!

I would have you see a Gastroenterologist and have more specific test than what you have had....Watch that appendix it very well could be inflamed but you are having intermittent pain..My cousin had a similar situation and his ruptured....The doctors were pretty sure he wasn't gonna make it....he spent 1 month in ICU! he healed but was one of the very lucky ones....

also consider being tested for heavy metals and poisoning! You could have mercury poisoning......

Pax

a reply to: crimsongod21

Just get rid of Gluten any how if you see a change in 2 weeks guess what. Its not really that hard. Add saw-palmetto and some fish oil to your diet if your not all ready. After i took 2 week off gluten i saw a huge change in my body aching. Doc said i didn't have a gluten intolrent problem and it still made a difference. Check out Rob Wolff and he speaks of leaky gut syndrome.

a reply to: crimsongod21

Try gall stones when you look stuff up. I am guessing its not diverticulitis,they should have seen that during the tests.

a reply to: paxnatus

a reply to: Dimithae



The OP said he had his gall bladder removed at age 19.

I once suffered abdominal pain for months and then I finally went to the doctor. I ended up getting an MRI. The results of the MRI were that nothing appeared to be wrong with me. So probably a few weeks later the pain vanished, never to return. Very mysterious but sometimes you just have a pain and it goes away and you never find out what it was. Sometimes pains are connected to our emotions and it helps to acknowledge that we are unhappy or angry about something that is going on in our lives. It is even more helpful to do something about the emotional situation that is causing the pain.

I hope you are feeling better soon.

Sal

a reply to: crimsongod21

originally posted by: sirric
Gallstones. Have them check for it.
What causes Gallstones Hope this helps you out Sirric

There are two things that I am familiar with that can cause these symptoms; Adhesion's Disease and Gall Stones.

Adhesion's Disease can be caused by a previous abdominal surgery, but it can occur without having had surgery. It also may not show up on diagnostics, but will be observable with an exploratory laparoscopy. Bad news first. If you opt to have surgery to remove the adhesions, there is a real good chance they will reoccur. Good news - It is not likely to kill you.

Gall Stones. While they will usually show up with diagnostic studies. There is that rare individual that will come back with all studies looking great, as if nothing is wrong; when there is indeed something wrong. This one I can attest to because my mother was in agony, and all the diagnostics. including CT scan and MRI came back clean.

She probably would have died if her Primary Doctor hadn't insisted the GI doc do the surgery. He was furious. He told my mother her doctor was trying to force him to do a surgery that she didn't need. My mother who won't take medications of any kind, and does not believe in surgery at all, unless absolutely necessary, shocked me when she said, "Well if he is fighting you that hard to do the surgery, then I think we should listen to him."

I will never forget the look on that doctors face when he came into the room to talk to me after the surgery. He was twisting his hat in his hand and he could barely look at me. He said he didn't understand it. All the test and the scans said everything was fine. He said if he hadn't done my mother's gall bladder surgery as her doctor had insisted, she would have likely suffered many awful complications. My mother recovered quickly and will be celebrating her 84th birthday in a couple of weeks.

Just for a laugh, she is doing well, and is as fit as a fiddle. She helped me put in a 8 foot fence and a 5 1/2 foot gate yesterday. I wish someone had been there with a camera. Two old fart women, with a post hole digger, fencing, gate, gate hardware, wood screws, concrete and a drill. It took us longer to determine what we needed, get it home, into the back yard, measured out, post placed, and boards cut to fit, using a hand saw, than it did to screw the boards into place. We started at 11:00 am. We had to make two trips back to the store because of we listened to the guy in Home Depot, instead of following our first minds, and doubting our mother wit. We finished just a little before 7 pm. We didn't even let a brief rain stop us. In fact it was a darn good refreshing relief.

I should have taken pictures before and after. I have to admit that we both were shocked at how professional the job looks. Even my neighbor commented that our work looked better than the job he paid some handyman to do.

So don't let the lack of diagnostic support stop you from getting help. If your doctor won't listen to you. Do yourself a favor, fire him and find yourself another doctor. One that will listen. Don't forget that you pay him and he works for you, unless he is working for free.

a reply to: Segenam

Sage advice here.. I'd highly suggest "Ayurveda" and I'd also start drinking way more water, and ESPECIALLY warm/hot water in the a.m. to rid Your body of wastes.. Also check Your Adrenal gland..

Ayurveda got Me off of 5 Rx meds. If You threw out My broken back/neck, then I'm healthier now than when I went through the police academy and played pro baseball.

Western medicine the whole idea is to write You a script or 4 and BigPHarma makes the poison AND the cure. You HAVE to be Your own health advocate..

Stay hydrated My friend.

namaste

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: paxnatus

a reply to: Dimithae

The OP said he had his gall bladder removed at age 19.

Believe it or not your body can still produce gall stones even if your gall bladder is removed.

Did they remove the stones or the bladder?

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
Where is the pain? Under your ribcage or further down, below your waist? Did your doctor mention gall bladder?

Have you tried an elimination diet? I tested negative for Celiac, but my symptoms cleared up when I eliminated gluten, so I'm gluten intolerant. I have NEVER been intolerant before. It just appeared one day, I was sick for 2 months, and finally figured it out. My doctor was worthless.

I would do elimination diets for gluten, lactose, fat, sugar. Eliminate each one for 3-4 days and see if you have any change in symptoms.

Also, what is your diet like?

Some good advice there

One thing I was thinking of was Diverticulitis, variable in the individual, but can be painful, while something I thought would have been mentioned either way as a result of the Colonoscopy.

a reply to: crimsongod21

Cancer ruled out via blood test

No MRI ?

a reply to: crimsongod21

Abdominal pain can be very difficult to Dx.

Be proactive (sounds as though you are). It's fine to search WebMD, but keep in mind that Monsanto is that sites sponsor (or was a month or so ago). I read it on the bottom left of the page there. It's still an informative site.

Somebody (I think it was seeker), advised you not to let your Dr. know that you looked at info on the computer (b/c Drs hate that)--it's true that a lot of Drs hate it when we do our own research. Many people come upon some horrific Dx's and can tend to believe that they have X, Y, or Z.. and the stress from that type of thinking can lead to other problems/symptoms, but I'm sure you are aware of that. Just saying.. incase you might not be aware.

I think it's wise posting a thread and discussing your medical (or other) issues with others. Not necessarily take their advice but just to discuss with others outside the family. I get it because often times we don't want to burden our family or friends with our problems.

On a personal note, I'm a pretty sick person.. but because I live 450 miles from family and friends I tend to talk about my issues (on the rare times that I even do) on a forum where nobody really knows me. I take some strong medications but don't share that with anyone in RL (real life) because they don't need the worry (and I hate to feel like a burden to anyone).

I hope you find out what ails you soon, and when you do I hope you don't mind sharing that information here.. it might even help someone else. Good luck to you!

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

They removed the gallbladder as it was full of as Mr dr put it sludge. The pain I am having now while kind of similar to the pains I had when my gallbladder was acting up is different both in location and in how it came on and lasted. With the gallbladder it would be very intense then go away for sometimes hours days or weeks. It took me numerous trips to my dr at the time to convince him even to look into my gallbladder as I didn't fit the criteria for having gallbladder issues. I was a physical fit 19 year old male. I credit WebMD for the save on that one.

As far as staying hydrated I do best often drinking well above 64fl Oz a day I am currently eating healthier than I ever really had before. Years ago when I traveled alot for work my diet consisted of fast food and frozen burritos, chicken sandwiches and other microwaveable items.

I'm a non drinker and do not consume any drugs be they legal or illegal I normally limit my prescription drugs to only the bare minimum of what I will have to take to keep from dying lol.

Honestly it feels good to get some of this out as when talking to my wife it just adds to the stress level, with me currently being on fmla due to this mystery illness money is tight. It's hhard when you are used to checks with 60 hrs a week then going to straight 40 hr checks and now 60% pay. Here is hoping to an answer and some sort of treatment coming soon.

a reply to: Gothmog

Correct I have not had an mri as all the other tests have shown no sign of cancer, it was noted at the time of my gallbladder surgery that my spleen was slightly inlarged so it stands to reason that nothing has changed since then.

I'm no expert here but I'll throw in my two cents worth. Get a second opinion if possible and get to a specialist.

Also, is this normal? "my spleen was inlarged and I had some calcification on my prostate" Strangely enough, sometimes people have had non related medical issues which alerted them to other more serious medical issues. Likewise, something could be causing them (spleen & prostate) to be reacting in a bad way. But definitely get a second opinion and some more testing.

In fact I myself would be trying some natural remedies for fighting prostate calcification and getting my spleen healthy. Both in the long run can cause problems that wouldn't be fun to deal with. In the process, you might solve the whole problem!

a reply to: crimsongod21

Oops - see you had gallbladder removed. I still have pain as I did before gallbladder removal but following the following tips still helps. Might help

Try: pure apple juice, the unpasturized type. Drink two glasses in half an hour. Also get artichokes - canned, with or without oil. Eat ground flaxseed with hot water poured over.

If it's gallbladder related (even if all your tests came back negative) you should notice some relief. This will indicate gallbladder. I had gallbladder attacks (severe) for years before anything showed up on any tests.

Try buscopan - it dilates the microscopic muscles of the abdomen area and may provide relief. Prescription.

Get milk thistle, you can try schizandra - both help tremendously with liver.

IF gallbladder related you can feel the pain lower right/upper right, right area in general, upper right shoulder, sternum pain / all 3 at once.

Can't hurt to try these tricks while you wait. I agree with seeker1963 - you know your body and it is unique and the doctors are there to help and they have access to the tests but many won't act until they are pushed (squeaky wheel and all that).

And gallbladder issues can affect spleen. Not saying it is gallbladder related but it's possible. Good luck!

I'd have to suggest what Benevolent Heretic suggested. Have you added or subtracted something from your diet lately? If it is a bacterial thing, many times your poop smells bad to you. If you have been consuming more sulfur foods than normal it can sometimes have that effect.

There are many possibilities for what you are experiencing.

The nerves of the spine connect all over the body and can produce pain symptoms in any body part or area. Try a chiropractic adjustment.