Democrats Run The Least Violent Cities in America

a reply to: neveroddoreven99

I know Los Angeles its pretty much a desert but small??

a reply to: Grimpachi

Hey, why don't you spend an hour and prove me wrong? Why do I have to hold your hand? It's really easy to find the mayoral history of cities. You can do it to, and actually learn something. But it's even easier to just stick your head in the sand and agree with whoever happens to be spitting whatever argument fits your bias, huh? Flawless argument. "You're wrong because I don't want to find out if you're right." Mayoral history isn't some obscure data that I need to lead you too. Do a freakin Google search.
The OP suggests that Dems rule everything, so there's bound to be some bad apples. Oh, except that those bad apples just happen to be the most violent places in America, and have been run by Dems for decades in many cases. When the mayoral argument blows up in his face he tries to prove his point with governors, even though it's not nearly the same thing.
But let's talk about you! You seem content with the stats. Why is that? Do you live in one of the most dangerous cities in America? Maybe you'd like to!

Not sure what democrat -vs- republican mayors has to do with violence in the larger cities.

The mayors aren't the ones committing the crimes, or if they are, damn they're busy. No wonder large cities suck.

the common factor here is people. Lots and lots of people. Some with little hope. Some with none. Is there such a thing as less then none? If so, some of these cities have that, too.

I've gotten very tired of the "blame casting". What the Hell problem, if any, does that solve? Put a GOP mayor in office, it's not going to improve. Deep down, y'all know that. Or should...

But, hey, just keep on keepin' on with the blame game, rather than dropping the pretense of differences between the two, and just getting to work to fix it.

Most of the republican cities are towards the bottom of the OP's chart. The OP's chart proves exactly what the OP is trying to disprove. Democrat cities are cesspools of crime.

a reply to: peskyhumans

Do you realize the second chart is ordered by population and the....

oh forget it

RED VS BLUE YAY!!!

America is doomed

a reply to: seagull

dropping the pretense of differences between the two

There are quite a bit of differences between the two. The entire notion that the Left is the same as the Right is lazy and incorrect.

a reply to: peskyhumans

Ask yourself this, please.

What would, let's use Detroit, having a Republican mayor accomplish? Would crime miraculously drop? How?

a reply to: introvert

Not in results.

Incompetence is pretty much the same everywhere, regardless of political affiliation.

They can spout all the different dogmatic crap 'til the cows come home, when nothing changes, save for the worse, what's the difference, again?

originally posted by: seagull

Not sure what democrat -vs- republican mayors has to do with violence in the larger cities.

The mayors aren't the ones committing the crimes, or if they are, damn they're busy. No wonder large cities suck.

Well one constructive argument might be about who controls the police departments and who dictates the policies and who sets up the crime task forces.

I would say Mayors have a lot to do with all of that, especially in the big cities where crime is high.

States and even Counties are minimally involved with local police force policies.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: peskyhumans

Ask yourself this, please.

What would, let's use Detroit, having a Republican mayor accomplish? Would crime miraculously drop? How?

The damage done already would take decades to reverse.

a reply to: neveroddoreven99

Hey, why don't you spend an hour and prove me wrong?

Because you only made a claim that you are right and he was wrong. Why should I spend an hour on that kind of BS post. I simply reciprocated the same effort in posting that you did.

BTW welcome to ATS where I am under no obligation to disprove your unfounded and unsourced claims just because you want me to. Besides my post was responding to the fact that you didn't comprehend the OP. Yo never offered up anything worthwhile to even try to disprove . Basicly you have been ranting the whole time.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: jjkenobi
Looking at who is in office right now is extremely short sighted. The other post at least made some reference to cities that have historically been ran by Democrats.

- Fort Wayne has a pretty even distribution of Republican/Democratic elected mayors. Democrats take credit for that eh?

- Detroit hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1967. Democrats can't possible be responsible for that.

- Chicago hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1927. Again, Democrats can't possible be responsible for that.

And your top city listed is in Texas. Texas man. One small Democratic mayor in the Republican stronghold of Texas. C'mon.

Your comparison fails hard.

In the other thread I tried to get people to understand that there are many factors involved beyond the power of a mayor that contributes to crime and crime statistics, but no one seemed to care. The mayors were democrat, crime was high and therefore Democrats are to blame for the high crime. That comparison failed hard.

But why aren't people approaching this thread in the same manner? Because it shows democrat mayors run the least violent cities? Aren't we being hypocrites here?

I love how Republicans are to blame for everything and any policy changes they suggest are treated like they will cause the end of the world, but for some reason policy involving Democrats or Obama are not to blame for ANYTHING.

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: jjkenobi
Looking at who is in office right now is extremely short sighted. The other post at least made some reference to cities that have historically been ran by Democrats.

- Fort Wayne has a pretty even distribution of Republican/Democratic elected mayors. Democrats take credit for that eh?

- Detroit hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1967. Democrats can't possible be responsible for that.

- Chicago hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1927. Again, Democrats can't possible be responsible for that.

And your top city listed is in Texas. Texas man. One small Democratic mayor in the Republican stronghold of Texas. C'mon.

Your comparison fails hard.

In the other thread I tried to get people to understand that there are many factors involved beyond the power of a mayor that contributes to crime and crime statistics, but no one seemed to care. The mayors were democrat, crime was high and therefore Democrats are to blame for the high crime. That comparison failed hard.

But why aren't people approaching this thread in the same manner? Because it shows democrat mayors run the least violent cities? Aren't we being hypocrites here?

I love how Republicans are to blame for everything and any policy changes they suggest are treated like they will cause the end of the world, but for some reason policy involving Democrats or Obama are not to blame for ANYTHING.

I don't believe anyone has suggested that the Left or Obama is not to blame for anything. The difference is that the Right blames the Left for anything and everything and there doesn't seem to be any reciprocation from those on the Right to say that their team is to blame for things as well.

That is the difference between the two sides of the debate. The Left is very introspective, the Right is not.

Wow! Impressive!! My 3rd grader could put together a better BS presentation. Nice try. Get real fact checked info or just get!!!!

a reply to: Indigent

Your statistics are wrong due to this sources grouping of data. These are MSA (Metropolitain Statistical Areas) so a wide range of area and conditions. I lived in Chicago, San Diego, Indianapolis and checked the stats. Each of these if you look at the main city only, urban crime is high but as soon as you get out of downtown, crime is low. Let's take San Diego county (100 mile by 125 mile area), for example, where I live in an suburban location with 100,000 persons where we are the second safest city in the entire USA per FBI statistics. My good stats lower crime for the rest of the county by half, or in other words, crime is actually twice as bad as reported for San Diego. The City of San Diego's mayor has been Democrat for the past 20 years so a republican just got in at the last election to clean up the place, so please, blame crime on the demorats since they were supporting the high level of illegal aliens.

a reply to: Indigent

40 of the top 50 are Democrat it seems.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: jjkenobi
Looking at who is in office right now is extremely short sighted. The other post at least made some reference to cities that have historically been ran by Democrats.

- Fort Wayne has a pretty even distribution of Republican/Democratic elected mayors. Democrats take credit for that eh?

- Detroit hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1967. Democrats can't possible be responsible for that.

- Chicago hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1927. Again, Democrats can't possible be responsible for that.

And your top city listed is in Texas. Texas man. One small Democratic mayor in the Republican stronghold of Texas. C'mon.

Your comparison fails hard.

In the other thread I tried to get people to understand that there are many factors involved beyond the power of a mayor that contributes to crime and crime statistics, but no one seemed to care. The mayors were democrat, crime was high and therefore Democrats are to blame for the high crime. That comparison failed hard.

But why aren't people approaching this thread in the same manner? Because it shows democrat mayors run the least violent cities? Aren't we being hypocrites here?

I love how Republicans are to blame for everything and any policy changes they suggest are treated like they will cause the end of the world, but for some reason policy involving Democrats or Obama are not to blame for ANYTHING.

I don't believe anyone has suggested that the Left or Obama is not to blame for anything. The difference is that the Right blames the Left for anything and everything and there doesn't seem to be any reciprocation from those on the Right to say that their team is to blame for things as well.

That is the difference between the two sides of the debate. The Left is very introspective, the Right is not.

absolutely absurd.

a reply to: chuckk

Here are the metropolitan areas crime rate

en.m.wikipedia.org...

Now let me know which is the mayor of those areas? Oh that's right it does not work like that, go say that in the other topic if you like, it seems no one will care.

a reply to: Cinreds1

Welcome to ats, congrants on your 3rd grader prowess, it is well know talent skips a generation

originally posted by: mikell
It's all about the free stuff. Vote Democrat, vote early , vote often.

Very relevant