Ten Commandments Monument Removed From Oklahoma Capitol Grounds

It was about time...

Wonder if Pat Robertson will tell them that disaster may strike there as well?!



@Klassified - you've no idea how it really happened, do you??

Let me help ya...

a reply to: SuperFrog

Well Bachman already said the storms in SC are due to our 'turning our backs on Israel' so wouldn't surprise me.

a reply to: Sremmos80

What exactly did I avoid answering?
They used the first amendment to say the monument was illegal. I agree they have a point.
At the same time, Other people want to infringe on my access to guns therefore violating the second amendment.

How can anybody justify using the constitution in one case but step all over it in another?

originally posted by: TzarChasm
will they have to remove the baphomet monument as well?

They never installed it in Oklahoma.

As of July they were apparently trying to display it at the state capitol in Arkansas.

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originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: Krazysh0t

If it was paid for by private money it should not be in government property.

Still I find interesting that most laws are base in the 10 commandments or they are used to refer as moral standing and rules from ancient society to todays modern society.

4 of the 10 commandments deal with worshiping god. I really detest when people say that the ten commandments are good morals or are good guidelines to follow if you aren't Christian. It just isn't true.

originally posted by: marg6043

Still I find interesting that most laws are base in the 10 commandments or they are used to refer as moral standing and rules from ancient society to todays modern society.

So, "remember the Sabbath to keep it holy"? Any jurisdiction in the U.S. enforcing THAT commandment the way it was originally intended? For Saturday or Sunday?

No graven images? Anybody following that one?

How about not coveting your neighbor's stuff? The whole economy is based on not following that one.

a reply to: Bluntone22

How can you fight for it in one case and in another just say "meh no one follows it anyway so what's the point"?

I bet you would never say that in any of the threads about guns.
No one is stepping all over the second, that is the just the typical deflection.

Good to hear! What's even more surprising to me is that there haven't been any Christians who've come into this thread yet and preached about how wrong this is.

Good work Oklahoma.

The Ten Commandments are Jewish so its an attack on the Jews, not so much the Christians.

I find it funny that the atheists act like fundamentalists regarding these issues.
Who really cares about a few statues and a few chairs. Plenty of people evidently, no wonder ISIS destroys culturally significant monuments.
I dont see the difference between what IS do and what has happened here, except the culturaly significance of the item.

I am not interested in bridges in Palmyra or 10 commandment statues, but to have them removed or destroyed.
Intolerance leads to conflict then violence.

This world deserves whats comming

originally posted by: Raggedyman

Who really cares about a few statues and a few chairs.

Probably no one.

Unless the statues and chairs represent one specific religion on government property, which is a violation of Church and State.

Other religions have been rejected to place a monument next to a Christian monument that's on government property. Its not just atheists.

What I want to know, is when are they going to take "IN GOD WE TRUST" off the dollar bill. So, we can finally separate GOD from our FEDERAL MONEY. Who want's to walk around with GOD in their pocket everyday?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Raggedyman

Who really cares about a few statues and a few chairs.

Probably no one.

Unless the statues and chairs represent one specific religion on government property, which is a violation of Church and State.

Other religions have been rejected to place a monument next to a Christian monument that's on government property. Its not just atheists.

If you are going to be intimidated and offended by a statue placed on the ground in a public space then I feel a little pity for you
I dont see how this impinges on your rights to live and enjoy life.
Nor do I see how a statue of bhapomet impinges on a Christians rights to live and enjoy life.

Fundys are all crazy

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Yeah, it is terrible to have a stone tablet telling people not to kill each other and steal stuff and lie about their neighbors and stuff like that. What were they thinking?

And the ten commandments doesn't promote any religion. It just tells people not to be a-holes, but we can't have that in this country can we?


Seeing a sign that says something about Loving God isn't promoting religion either. If it said you must go to a Lutheran or a Presbyterian church every Sunday, then that would be promoting a religion.
Of course, when you are an overzealous Anti-Christian, then anything and everything that pushes your buttons about a God or deity becomes promoting religion, but that is only because you hate God or the idea that your life will have accountability after you die. I hope you are ready for that inevitability. Removing a stone Tablet is not going to save you or keep you from accountability.

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Raggedyman

Who really cares about a few statues and a few chairs.

Probably no one.

Unless the statues and chairs represent one specific religion on government property, which is a violation of Church and State.

Other religions have been rejected to place a monument next to a Christian monument that's on government property. Its not just atheists.

If you are going to be intimidated and offended by a statue placed on the ground in a public space then I feel a little pity for you
I dont see how this impinges on your rights to live and enjoy life.
Nor do I see how a statue of bhapomet impinges on a Christians rights to live and enjoy life.

Fundys are all crazy

Its about Separation of Church and state.

You either understand it - - or you don't.

Was the Baphomet statue on government property?

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Take out the four that have to do with God then I'm fine with it. Because that is what it also tells you, that you need to worship the god of the OT, who by the way was an a hole.

Acting like this doesn't promote religion is pretty disengenous.

originally posted by: AMPTAH
What I want to know, is when are they going to take "IN GOD WE TRUST" off the dollar bill. So, we can finally separate GOD from our FEDERAL MONEY. Who want's to walk around with GOD in their pocket everyday?

There's always a lawsuit going on to remove it.

I expect it will be removed eventually. God does not belong on a secular government document.

. . . the three-judge panel of the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York noted that the courts have long looked at the motto not so much as the entanglement of government in religion, but as a more general statement of optimism and a "reference to the country’s religious heritage."

"Tradition is a terrible excuse for any behavior," said American Atheists spokesman David Muscato. "If we allowed ‘tradition’ to guide our views, what else would we uphold -- slavery, denying the vote to women? The simple fact is that ‘In God We Trust’ has no rightful place on currency in the United States, a country with separation of church and state, and it never has."

www.huffingtonpost.com...

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

Seeing a sign that says something about Loving God isn't promoting religion either.

Then what's the point?

Of course its promoting religion.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Take out the four that have to do with God then I'm fine with it. Because that is what it also tells you, that you need to worship the god of the OT, who by the way was an a hole.

Acting like this doesn't promote religion is pretty disengenous.

I truly pity you. It is sad to see someone fully and close to hopelessly deceived by Satan. You are a slave to it. Breaking free is only possible if you wise up about the condition of your soul. Yours looks very dark from where I'm standing. Full of anger, hatred and dark thoughts about your place in the world. Hatred for God, Hatred for all things you don't even understand.
I'll say a prayer for you..

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

Seeing a sign that says something about Loving God isn't promoting religion either.

Then what's the point?

Of course its promoting religion.

Then not having a sign telling people not to murder and hate one another is promoting a religion as well. The religion of Evil, Lawlessness, and moral bankruptcy. By taking away that sign, is the same as saying you promote the lack of law or any tie to moral decency, because the sign you take away IS promoting a moral code of decency.

originally posted by: Raggedyman
Plenty of people evidently, no wonder ISIS destroys culturally significant monuments.
I dont see the difference between what IS do and what has happened here, except the culturaly significance of the item.

It's the Religiously brainwashed masses that are closer to being ISIS not the atheists. They want the statue removed because it doesn't and shouldn't be there according to the constitution and it shows a bias with our system that favors a certain group of people. That's why it's been removed and placed somewhere else. It wasn't destroyed, just relocated.

This world deserves whats comming

You mean a world without Religious authority??? I would agree, the world does deserve it.