lies about deaths by tsunami

Burma, locted north and west of Thailand is a military dictatorship and only reported 90 deaths so far....does anyone really belive that????

Regarding Burma.

www.telegraph.co.uk.../news/2005/01/02/wburma02.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/01/02/ixnewstop.html

www.bernama.com...

search google for this and you will find plenty of sources. this is pretty old now, but i'm wondering why CNN or any major news network has kept us in the dark while the international community knows what is going on.

well all i'm gonna say is look at this photo and imagine that round the whole coastlines

Tsunami Photo

I think the death's are probably higher than reported and will keep rising for a while to come.

[edit on 2-1-2005 by Teknikal]

Originally posted by Teknikal
well all i'm gonna say is look at this photo and imagine that round the whole coastlines


[edit on 2-1-2005 by Teknikal]

Lots of dead bodies in that pic. Very sad to see so many dead and the living have not even been able to bury the dead yet. I've heard that mass graves are being dug to bury the dead because after a week it become very difficult to even tell the difference between a white skinned versus black skinned body and the bodies become a major health hazard to the living. I never thought about that fact that you could become buried in a mass grave if your death occurs in a major disaster.

Deaths could not be prevented given the fury of the water unfortunately. Fewer deaths however would have been the result if people learned to understand the signals that were given. Animals who know how to use their senses left. Elephants in Thailand were trumpeting in an effort to get humans to respond. Most didn�t, so the elephants headed for higher ground to save themselves. Birds went quiet � once again this is a signal that something is about to happen. Take the time to observe what happens around your own area and you will see that animals and birds know before we do and they try to warn us.

When the tide went out quickly to start with if people were more aware they would have realised that a �tidal� wave would come back. Most don�t know what the signals are so they didn�t respond. In fact many of the children ran out onto the flat to collect shells. They had no hope. Also many people just stood and watched the waves coming in. They didn�t react quickly enough.

There was an increase in UFO activity around the Indian Ocean basin just before the earthquake. This is not uncommon before a major natural disaster. Once again, we are not tuned into the world around us, so we don�t pick up the signals. There also appears to have been either an asteroids hit or close encounter on December 26. I bet this had an impact but not one that in fairness people would probably have been in a position to be accurate about.

Lastly, many of the beach areas are built on reclaimed sand. They are only centimetres above the tide line with the force of the water some of the island just washed away. There are lessons in this for the future of rebuilding.

[edit on 2-1-2005 by Lady of the Lake]

[edit on 2-1-2005 by Lady of the Lake]

Whoa, Lady, edit your post please, I can't make it past the first paragraph without a headache. Contrast is a good thing, repeat after me..

Opps. Pays to check huh.

I dont know much about it, but even with the signs i dont know how much that would have helped. The children that went to collect shells... They were already on the beach, could they have made it away in time?

---Pineapple

CNN talked about one island (forgot name) that when they felt the quake all the people on the island headed toward the center of the island. They did this because of an old island story about a quake in the 1800's and the people lived because they went to the middle. it worked good, because the island had a lot of damage but no deaths.

thats true about the animals, but people are so busy that no even thinks to think.

The only sign I know, I got from the History Channel, and thats when you see the water dissappearing from the coast line at a pretty rapid rate, to get as far away from the coast as you can, because the water going away it whats building the wave heading to kill your a�s.

Originally posted by Lady of the Lake
Deaths could not be prevented given the fury of the water unfortunately. Fewer deaths however would have been the result if people learned to understand the signals that were given. Animals who know how to use their senses left. Elephants in Thailand were trumpeting in an effort to get humans to respond. Most didn�t, so the elephants headed for higher ground to save themselves. Birds went quiet � once again this is a signal that something is about to happen. Take the time to observe what happens around your own area and you will see that animals and birds know before we do and they try to warn us.

When the tide went out quickly to start with if people were more aware they would have realised that a �tidal� wave would come back. Most don�t know what the signals are so they didn�t respond. In fact many of the children ran out onto the flat to collect shells. They had no hope. Also
many people just stood and watched the waves coming in. They didn�t react quickly enough.


Lady, Your words here are exactly what I have thought, as well as what I have mention on other treads to a short extent.
We All need to look a little deeper, allot more closer in every aspect of this thinking
There was an increase in UFO activity around the Indian Ocean basin just before the earthquake. This is not uncommon before a major natural disaster. Once again, we are not tuned into the world around us, so we don�t pick up the signals. There also appears to have been either an asteroids hit or close encounter on December 26. I bet this had an impact but not one that in fairness people would probably have been in a position to be accurate about.

Lastly, many of the beach areas are built on reclaimed sand. They are only centimetres above the tide line with the force of the water some of the island just washed away. There are lessons in this for the future of rebuilding.

[edit on 2-1-2005 by Lady of the Lake]

[edit on 2-1-2005 by Lady of the Lake]

[edit on 3-1-2005 by jessemole]

Originally posted by DrHoracid
I think the numbers can and will be inflated to get MONEY from a symapathy scam. The higher the death toll the greater the world sympathy. Like "body count" in Vietnam. High numbers have political capital and literally more money in the pockets of governments that traditionally care little for the masses of their people.

i'm always surprised when we agree on something. cheers, dr.

this before & after picture shows what water can really do.

this was brought up with the fla hurricanes as well.

I would say it would be hard to count 120,000 trees without having discrepancies and errors, so counting dead bodies while there is looting and chaos is probably pretty difficult.

The final death toll will probably never be known exactly. So what is the point of the argument.

How many people died in Florida. I mean EXACTLY how many ?

What we are hearing are estimates. Nobody is lying. If you wipe out a whole community so absolutely nothing remains, who but God knows how many.

Originally posted by Lady of the Lake
Deaths could not be prevented given the fury of the water unfortunately. Fewer deaths however would have been the result if people learned to understand the signals that were given. Animals who know how to use their senses left. Elephants in Thailand were trumpeting in an effort to get humans to respond. Most didn�t, so the elephants headed for higher ground to save themselves.

How about instead of listening to a bunch of elephants an birds they just put into place a tsunami monitoring system for the indian ocean?

I don't mean to be harsh here,and this isn't directed at just you, but, honestly, there are a lot of whacky suggestions being made regarding this, from sea surface temperature monitoring to astral alignments, to listening to animals now when there is a very simple and sensible system that can be used. There were some researchers from madras who claimed ot have predicted the earthquake via something like astrology. Astrology. The indian government is funding research into astrology but doesn't support an indian ocean tsunami monitoring system. Similarly, talk about monitoring animals throughout the region or any other method, heck, even it it worked it wouldn't be worth it because the system used by the US and other countries to monitor tsunamis would know about it before the animals anyway.

And ultimately, there isn't any time to do anything about this anyways. 2 and a half hours after the earthquake, the tidal wave hit ceylon and india. Long before that it hit indonesia and the other parts of the world that were affected. You simply can't evacuate enough of that part of the world to prevent massive deaths.


And again, don't take this as directed at you specifically.

Nygdan
And ultimately, there isn't any time to do anything about this anyways. 2 and a half hours after the earthquake, the tidal wave hit ceylon and india. Long before that it hit indonesia and the other parts of the world that were affected. You simply can't evacuate enough of that part of the world to prevent massive deaths.

You cant prevent all the deaths, but even if some places had a 1 hour warning system, a LOT of people would have being saved.

I agree, Murcielago. You're always going to have some brain-dead soul standing on the beach gawking at the oncoming wave and saying "gee, isn't that cool!" But for the rest of us, the tools are out there. I just hope the governments of the world have the sense to install and use them.

I am going to agree and disagree on this a little bit. They are saying about 150 grand are dead right now. That are confirmed. Tell me, how are the comfirmed? Who is counting? How are they being reported? Are there double reports? There is no way they could possibly be identifying all of the bodies. So how do they know? If we can't say for sure how these people are being counted, then how do we know for sure. Now this is in no way an attempt to diminish the significance of this terrible disaster, but my guess would be that some of this number is exageration rather than understated. Humans have a tendency to exagerate things of this nature...and not understate them.

So I agree to the point that we don't know how many are really dead. I just disagree and feel the number is probably lower than it is being reported.

The newest number I just heard is over 155,000 people dead.

For disease reasons they arn't identifing (a large majority) of the bodies, they want to bury them asap, so more dont die because of the dead. They count how many, then they put them in a big hole and burry all of them, so them the ones who burried them would keep track of it like 500 people in this whole, and add up the wholes that are all recorded, and the true numbers emerge.

In some places identification is pointless, because whole families and relatives die. Kinda like last years earthquake in Iran that killed 20,000.