Very recent epiphany, The gay rights movement has a very sinister agenda.

originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: GoShredAK

Why is it a touchy subject? gay people exist and have done forever.
The only one making it a touchy subject is yourself equating the LGBT crowd with satan.
Oh and no matter what you say you are religious If you follow Christ.
Again why have you cherry picked from the Bible? why only gay folk deserve your religious wrath?.

No matter what YOU say you are religious if you BELIEVE in pretty much anything, what is the dam difference ??

I would love to fast forward another 50 years and see the laughter and scorn of all the "so dam sure" people out there that believe all sorts of themes that are so popular right now.

originally posted by: GoShredAK

originally posted by: theantediluvian
I find it highly strange that marriage equality and abortion are symptomatic of Satan's agenda at work in America but hundreds of years of slavery, genocide of ingenious peoples, indentured servitude and abuse of immigrants (who have themselves been a majority Christian) isn't.

I have a disdain for religion. Limited knowledge too. I'm not intending to speak with any authority. What they did is inhuman.

I identify with Christ becuase I believe he has performed multiple miracles in my life, and the one time I strayed, I was stricken with a Lonliness I didn't know was possible.

I find comfort in his name amd respect his standards.

Religion is another tool used by that dastardly devil.

While I too can appreciate the words of Christ, I still have to wonder how one can "disdain" religion while making "Satan" a factor in this discussion since it is indeed "religion" that has brought to us the concept of Satan vs. the Teachings of Christ.

a reply to: rebelv

Also "Males" have been born with Two X Chromosomes

a reply to: GoShredAK

Oh cry me a river it was you who started this thread equating gay folk to some satanic evil agenda then you complain people have called you out on it?.
You say we are all hateful when you have made this thread.
I thought you just naive at first now you are just another guy who persecutes and then when called out bleats persecution.
Poor you maybe you should have thought about the consequences of your words.
You talk of love and such with a spiteful hypocritical tongue.

a reply to: boymonkey74

Oh cry me a river it was you who started this thread equating gay folk to some satanic evil agenda then you complain people have called you out on it?.

To be fair he misworded his thread. It's not the gay people who are behind the agenda but it's Satan. But yeah I have asked why Satan would have used gay people when there are way better ways like the politicans and religious people.

Now monkey start flinging poop.

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Gemwolf

for the record many of these actors playing the roles you speak of were straight while the gay ones were playing straight roles

I must say I'm disappointed that this is all you can come up with in response to my post. I was hoping for something with a bit more meat or at least something that was relevant, but I guess I made my point, so there's nothing left to be said?

And I was looking forward to someone accepting the challenge. Oh well. Just another shattered dream...

originally posted by: GoShredAK
....The parts of the Bible that resonate with me make perfect kind common sense, no hate. Even if it was all made up, it is a guide on how to be a good person, and find true happiness. wtf is wrong with that?

There's nothing wrong with that. The Bible is a pretty good book to live by. But what parts of the Bible sparked your curiosity or question about how Satan is using the gay community to further his agenda or idea that teh 'Luminati is using GSM foods to make people gay?

Honest question. Just trying to understand where you're coming from...

a reply to: Gemwolf

It's in the book of I-just-pulled-this-out-of-my-ass. Chapter 69 verse 1:

And behold the serpent Satan will enter the spirits of those without faith and compel them to have anal sex. Ye shall know that true evil lurks upon the face of the Earth when women love women and men love men. The true followers of Christ shall resist the Dark One's urgings and instead go forth and work hard to inflict scorn and disgust on those afflicted by Satan. Oh followers of Christ, be sure thy enemy is never happy, be sure they never forget that there is no place for them in this world, do not hire them for jobs, do not allow them to make a mockery of the sacred bond of marriage, do not let them be each other's insurance beneficiaries, for if you let them live in peace and be happy in their lives then you are letting Satan win.

originally posted by: Gemwolf

originally posted by: GoShredAK
....The parts of the Bible that resonate with me make perfect kind common sense, no hate. Even if it was all made up, it is a guide on how to be a good person, and find true happiness. wtf is wrong with that?

There's nothing wrong with that. The Bible is a pretty good book to live by. But what parts of the Bible sparked your curiosity or question about how Satan is using the gay community to further his agenda or idea that teh 'Luminati is using GSM foods to make people gay?

Honest question. Just trying to understand where you're coming from...

Someow the idea that I think maybe GMO foods make people gay got out there. That is completely false. That would be some insane GMO work. That notion is clearly absurd. However GMOs are harmful in my opinion, and how they may relate here IMO is this.

Specifically the added hormones and steroids in dairy and meat, combined with the toxic cocktail that has become a typical american diet is causing early development in children. Whether intentional or not, it is without a doubt irresponsible, and unnatural.

Please if that can be proven wrong go for it. Name calling and mockery won't cut though.

I did however express curiosity in what the people experimenting on DNA are figuring out. Or what stage genetic manipulation has reached, in both animals and humans. There are positive implications to this research I suppose. I think DNA, genetics, embryos, ect........are a precarious group of things to be manipulatingddde

As for the "Gay Agenda" that was a poor choice of words, I was oblivious of how offensive I was being because I really do not care about this issue. I have my own life, and equal rights has zero effect on me. I also try not to be judgemental, it's a weak trait and a waste of emotion.

As a Christian, I am one who believes in Satan, Earth is his domain. I believe there has been an ongoing battle for our souls for a very long time. I have seen enough to convince me the Illuminati are real, they are evil, and they control the media that is presented to us. Whether it be movies, shows, the news, songs............

I'm getting carried away. The agenda is to wreck the morals of people abroad, eventually we will forget about God and Jesus, Christians will be the bad guy. Maybe it will all be free will and equal and harmonious for a time, but eventually the NWO will step in and establish their final product.

Currently, the issue that people are so very passionate about is a great tool to expose the concept of gayness to kids all over the place, divide people, and further demonize Christians.

The individual is ok I'm sure. I don't doubt God has the ability to judge us as individuals, and has the courtesy to not automatically throw people to the pit of fire for simply being human and making a few mistakes here and there. The truth of who we are is in our hearts always.

That's my best explanation. I don't know why Im still talking on the issue. I have already admitted defeat, apologized and admitted I was in the wrong for the insensitive way I said things. Also I'm aware the thread is poorly composed and a bit confusing. I through it together pretty quickly........now all that aside, I think it turned out ok, I'm proud of it, and with some non bias effort, I believe it's plenty comprehensible. Also once one comprehends the entire OP with zero pre conceived bias, it should be crystal clear that I'm not attacking the gay community, rather, TPTB, and the current decay of Christianity......

However I will never question my own faith, and would die before I disrespect or disregard scripture from the Holy Bible because a hostile crowd fueled by emotion, and being extremely rude as a result, claims I'm wrong and foolish and hateful for not. For standing my ground. Never.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
I find it highly strange that marriage equality and abortion are symptomatic of Satan's agenda at work in America but hundreds of years of slavery, genocide of ingenious peoples, indentured servitude and abuse of immigrants (who have themselves been a majority Christian) isn't.

Sharp intake of breathe there but absolutely correct. I suspect some pelters coming your way......just duck now ;-)

originally posted by: GoShredAK

Mate,

Christianity does not have to be the persecuted bad guy. It still has it's place and it always will.

I'll tell you something that you as a Christian and I as a gay person can even agree on - the spread of Wahabi (hardline fundamenta)l Islam is a threat to the both of us.

originally posted by: markosity1973

originally posted by: GoShredAK

Mate,

Christianity does not have to be the persecuted bad guy. It still has it's place and it always will.

I'll tell you something that you as a Christian and I as a gay person can even agree on - the spread of Wahabi (hardline fundamenta)l Islam is a threat to the both of us.

We've certainly found common ground here. Thank God, the tension has me ready to abandon thread, never to return......the memory a scar representing a strange time of ATS history where I unknowingly walked into a room full of giant mouse traps. (metaphorical opinionated ones) in hindsight it was a poor decision. Zigged when I shoulda zagged.

Truth is I have nothing to argue, I am tapping out so no one try. I enjoy peace.

Im afraid within a matter of a few generations, Many places, maybe as far as the US will be radical Muslim nations, NWO being laid into place, and unspeakable horrors everywhere as the survivors who resist are dealt with. I hope I'm wrong but see it as a possibilty, with evidence pointing that direction already anyway.

a reply to: GoShredAK

Your fears are similar to mine given that we have Wahabi Muslims within our nations stating that their goal is an Islamic state on our soil.

If you want my 5 cents worth, I believe that all this distraction with getting good people riled up over gay rights is a ploy to keep us knowing what is really brewing in the middle east.

You see, we as the gay community don't want to trample you, but someone somewhere is stirring up all these crazy angry pastors and getting everyone scared and paranoid over something that simply is not true. And by doing so, they are taking eyes off the atrocities in Syria and passing the treasonous TPP agreement

And that someone is the someone that controls our western media - I mean why does gay marriage deserve so much air time? It's only a big deal to the gay community in reality. Your lives have not and will not change. But the media told you all that we are taking over and we have taken something from you that could never ever in a million years be stolen


ETA
So, in a way I have come to agree with you OP in a sense. Except we are not Satanic and nor is our agenda. But Christianity's fears were played upon very successfully and a great many people have blindly walked into the trap as we gays were saying 'no, no nothing to worry about here'

Oh....so the OP is bailing on his own thread?

I'm not a mod, but thread closed.

I'll agree with the OP that civil right movements usually do have an agenda behind them. It may start out as a good and just cause but usually the so called solution does have a secret agenda.

The OP thinks it's to turn people away from being Christian but I think it's simply power and control for the elite.

The women's movement was the perfect example. Of course changes needed to me made but those changes focused on getting more women in the labor force (which was good for the elite) and encouraging women to put off having children during their most productive years and devote those years to working. (also good for the elite). Things like daycare, providing child support, research into women's health issues were not selected as important.

So yes, I think there probably is an agenda - not sure what it is but I'm betting it will be good for the elite.

a reply to: Daughter2

Hey you know what? I don't care if there is a secret hidden evil agenda behind civil rights movements, because the alternative is to maintain the status quo and continue abuse of rights. That alternative just isn't acceptable to me.

The women's rights movement didn't force women to go out in the work force - it just allowed women who always wanted to work/own businesses/become managers but who weren't allowed previously. There's no way you can say that the women's right movement wasn't a win for women. Who cares if it also benefited someone else?

As long as gays get full equality under the law, as the constitution guarantees them to, I don't care who else benefits.

a reply to: Daughter2

Correct, the secret Agenda is to be protected equally. the secret Agenda is to raise awareness so maybe we wont keep getting killed, attacked, disowned and homeless.

originally posted by: Darth_Prime
a reply to: rebelv

Also "Males" have been born with Two X Chromosomes

Wow, I didn't know that. I was also going to mention
Hermaphrodites which are much more common than most
people think.

Rebel 5

a reply to: rebelv

It's called "de la Chapelle syndrome"

there have also been "Males" born with a Uterus

originally posted by: Darth_Prime
a reply to: Daughter2

Correct, the secret Agenda is to be protected equally. the secret Agenda is to raise awareness so maybe we wont keep getting killed, attacked, disowned and homeless.

You mean at a higher rate than the rest of us?

Awareness for what exactly?