Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics.

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

I think the take-home message is to just obey and stop thinking for yourself. The scientists and politicians know better than you.

Water, the universal solvent. Shouldn't the river run east west if this ball has been spinning for as long as they claim? I guess I made my choice when I had someone immerse me.

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Look here

It's much too late for your anti UN, anti-communist paranoia

From here on out it's going to be about damage control. Those people on the planet - in government and outside of it - that want to work towards solutions - that's where you'll see real change

Honestly Threeeyes - you can yell at me all you like if it makes you feel like you're accomplishing something

:-)

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: neo96

Kind of can of worms. If the Totalitarians can prosecute us for dissenting from their fraud environmentalist extremist friends they can throw us in reeducation camps for anything we happen to disagree with.
My my the apple doesn't fall far from the tree these Leninist Stalinist Marxists going to do what the old Soviet Union did and we knew it. I'm absolutely amazed by the totalitarians all around....

Its not marxist. Its maoist. Wait for the cull of the older generation. There are less and less children able to think on their own after 12 years of indoctrination. The parallels to Maos china are all there. This type of story is exactly what they use to get the children to turn on their parents.

Unless we right the ship, expect a bloodbath. That will be the fundamental change we will believe in, or die.

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Look here

It's much too late for your anti UN, anti-communist paranoia

From here on out it's going to be about damage control. Those people on the planet - in government and outside of it - that want to work towards solutions - that's where you'll see real change

Honestly Threeeyes - you can yell at me all you like if it makes you feel like you're accomplishing something

:-)

Obviously it does matter, as long as people are not willing to budge things won't really happen. But then again this is what this is about. Removing opposition so these people can get to implementing their "solutions" as they see fit. So it does matter even if you say it doesn't. Until the opposition is removed, not much movement or very slow. Better hurry before we got a cooling period I guess.

So... suddenly an investigation of Big Oil is going to lead to genocide.

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: jimmyx

This is pointless. Some people are so anti-science they'll get in bed with Big Oil.

yeah I agree....plus the people here, that agree with the few that deny climate change is happening, and that "man" has anything to do with it, will simply not be convinced. responding to people like this who do not except the overwhelming evidence, is a waste of time and effort....it's like the "birthers", and the "Benghazi" crowds.....it's a waste of time, and it has become boring

originally posted by: DJW001
So... suddenly an investigation of Big Oil is going to lead to genocide.

No but if humans are responsible for global warming and you can't implement a global work around for humans than the root cause or humans must be solved, so the final solution may lead to genocide

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: jimmyx

This is pointless. Some people are so anti-science they'll get in bed with Big Oil.

yeah I agree....plus the people here, that agree with the few that deny climate change is happening, and that "man" has anything to do with it, will simply not be convinced. responding to people like this who do not except the overwhelming evidence, is a waste of time and effort....it's like the "birthers", and the "Benghazi" crowds.....it's a waste of time, and it has become boring

Has nothing to do with denying. It's the " solutions" proposed are pretty unrealistic for a global problem and people will not step up and state the obvious for the problem as identified. Humans are the problem. Let's hear the "solutions" to honestly address it.

Got banned from ktt for 4 days for talking about conspiracy theories lol

Just wanted to say Obama is a Saudi Arabian agent

# him

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: neo96

I think that was actually Religion who said the earth was flat and everything revolved around it and it was science that corrected it.

It was the all powerful Roman Catholic Church born of the Roman empire yes, and if reincarnation is true, it must be the same guys who today want to jail us all for dissenting. Remember, although they keep saying the science is settled, it's no more settled than theories of the Big Bang. Many of the Green crowd also believe in Gaia, the earth goddess, so their climate change/global warming theories arise out of that.
Even James Lovelock who came up with the Gaia hypothesis changed his mind about some things. www.dailymail.co.uk...
worldnews.nbcnews.com...

However, the professor admitted in a telephone interview with msnbc.com that he now thinks he had been “extrapolating too far."

On Eve of UN Earth Summit, Green Guru Lovelock Slams UN IPCC & Greens: ‘Whenever UN puts its finger in it seems to become a mess’ — ‘The green religion is now taking over from the Christian religion’
James Lovelock: ''IPCC is too politicised & too internalized' -- On Green religion: 'I don't think people have noticed that, but it's got all the sort of terms that religions use. The greens use guilt. You can't win people round by saying they are guilty for putting CO2 in the air'

Read more: www.climatedepot.com... ecome-a-mess-the-green-religion-is-now-taking-over-from-the-christian-religion/#ixzz3mCyBTFqI

Soooo there's that!

a reply to: Reallyfolks

So it does matter even if you say it doesn't. Until the opposition is removed, not much movement or very slow.

I think you misunderstand what I'm saying

The opposition will have to come around eventually - there are consequences for all of us that are inescapable

originally posted by: DJW001
So... suddenly an investigation of Big Oil is going to lead to genocide.

Ahem

Eco-liberals who love to hate “Big Oil” — prepare to be shocked. U.N. climate change treaty negotiators recently received a proposal from Royal Dutch Shell, BP, and four other European petroleum companies to collaborate with the international body on the climate change treaty, according to Christiana Figueres, the senior global warming official at the U.N.

blog.heartland.org...

So what's the church of climatology' plan to save the planet ?

Oh yeah TAXATION, and REGULATION.

Which they ALREADY have the power to do.

Icing on the cake ?

Prosecute people who don't buy in to the global warming HOAX.

Why yes I feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing the solution to save the planet basically boils down to taxes,regulation, and the prosecution of dissenters.

a reply to: Reallyfolks

Humans are the problem.

Humans are not thee problem. Did I misunderstand another one of your posts? I'm not saying we don't cause problems. Just look what the EPA did. But it's not because we eat beef and raise cows or even drive SUV. If that were really so, then why doesn't Al Gore stop flying around all over the place

Graciously, Gore tells consumers how to change their lives to curb their carbon-gobbling ways: Switch to compact fluorescent light bulbs, use a clothesline, drive a hybrid, use renewable energy, dramatically cut back on consumption. Better still, responsible global citizens can follow Gore's example, because, as he readily points out in his speeches, he lives a "carbon-neutral lifestyle." But if Al Gore is the world's role model for ecology, the planet is doomed.
For someone who says the sky is falling, he does very little. He says he recycles and drives a hybrid. And he claims he uses renewable energy credits to offset the pollution he produces when using a private jet to promote his film. (In reality, Paramount Classics, the film's distributor, pays this.)

Public records reveal that as Gore lectures Americans on excessive consumption, he and his wife Tipper live in two properties: a 10,000-square-foot, 20-room, eight-bathroom home in Nashville, and a 4,000-square-foot home in Arlington, Va. (He also has a third home in Carthage, Tenn.) For someone rallying the planet to pursue a path of extreme personal sacrifice, Gore requires little from himself.

usatoday30.usatoday.com...

He knows his theories are bologna sandwich made for us little people from which he and his fellow elites are exempt.

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: Reallyfolks

Humans are the problem.

Humans are not thee problem. Did I misunderstand another one of your posts? I'm not saying we don't cause problems. Just look what the EPA did. But it's not because we eat beef and raise cows or even drive SUV. If that were really so, then why doesn't Al Gore stop flying around all over the place

Graciously, Gore tells consumers how to change their lives to curb their carbon-gobbling ways: Switch to compact fluorescent light bulbs, use a clothesline, drive a hybrid, use renewable energy, dramatically cut back on consumption. Better still, responsible global citizens can follow Gore's example, because, as he readily points out in his speeches, he lives a "carbon-neutral lifestyle." But if Al Gore is the world's role model for ecology, the planet is doomed.
For someone who says the sky is falling, he does very little. He says he recycles and drives a hybrid. And he claims he uses renewable energy credits to offset the pollution he produces when using a private jet to promote his film. (In reality, Paramount Classics, the film's distributor, pays this.)

Public records reveal that as Gore lectures Americans on excessive consumption, he and his wife Tipper live in two properties: a 10,000-square-foot, 20-room, eight-bathroom home in Nashville, and a 4,000-square-foot home in Arlington, Va. (He also has a third home in Carthage, Tenn.) For someone rallying the planet to pursue a path of extreme personal sacrifice, Gore requires little from himself.

usatoday30.usatoday.com...

He knows his theories are bologna sandwich made for us little people from which he and his fellow elites are exempt.

You're not misunderstanding my other posts, your not understanding the point I'm making to the people saying we need solutions.

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: Reallyfolks

So it does matter even if you say it doesn't. Until the opposition is removed, not much movement or very slow.

I think you misunderstand what I'm saying

The opposition will have to come around eventually - there are consequences for all of us that are inescapable

Until realistic solutions are prposed to deal with this global problem on a global scale, I doubt it. And these scientists understand that. It's why the method to remove opposition is being taken. If your problem stated and solution stated are that sound not too many people debate it. Not too much opposition to 1 + 1 =2.

a reply to: neo96

A problem in the thought processes of these 'deniers' would normally be of little impact to the general populace. This situation is a bit more extreme.
You know (?), mass extinction including potential complete destruction of the Earth's carrying capacity as a consequence of their stupidity delaying implementation of 'cures'.
So we have people in the theater saying there is NO fire while the flames are poised to kill us ALL.

Somebody could get excited about these people screaming that their opinion is valid while others toes are getting crisped. They are willfully ignorant. They have little support (none that is cohesive) in facts or professional acceptance.

They are idiots who perhaps should not be made criminals but they do need to be pilloried and not praised. So, knock it off. Defending the right of morons to speak about a topic that they are ill suited to speak about is tantamount to confessing to being a fellow traveler on the short bus.

This I hope this will be the last time that defending the dumb's privileges for NO DISCERNIBLE reason will occur here. I can hope but I do not expect it to vanish because these folks do NOT want to believe otherwise.
I think they are afraid and they retreat to fantasies like religion and prophecy when you learn that our grandkids are going to die in a wasteland. It is that grim. It is why we MUST react and do it NOW.

You have to understand you are talking like a Luddite. You are too limited to have opinions worth a darn. Just shut up and let the adults work unmolested by your tattered imagined reality. A lot of us don't want to die even if you oppositional dolts think your god is going to step in and save the righteous.

a reply to: Spiramirabilis

opposition will have to come around eventually

No it wont because all this climate change propaganda is spun out of the controlling Club of Rome and they all know it's about controlling the masses and nothing to do with real science. even James Lovelock knows it

a reply to: largo

This situation is a bit more extreme. You know (?), mass extinction including potential complete destruction of the Earth's carrying capacity as a consequence of their stupidity

no no and no

Somebody could get excited about these people screaming that their opinion is valid while others toes are getting crisped. They are willfully ignorant

Speaking of willful ignorance, I have already posted that even James Lovelock who came up with the Gaia hypothesis later said he extrapolated a bit....his own words.
Time to stop ignoring the truth

And after all, as the President himself once said, “That’s not the American way. That’s not progress. That’s not innovation. That’s rent-seeking and trying to protect old ways of doing business and staying in the way of the future.”
Of course he wasn’t referring here to the many billions of dollars of crony capitalist government wind and solar energy charities. No, his message was targeted on those who dare to criticize his determination to replace fossil energy with anemic, unreliable, and costly non-alternatives. Accordingly, in August he and his enthusiastically obedient EPA announced still another multibillion scheme to force utilities to obtain about 28% of all U.S. electrical capacity from renewable sources by 2030. Yet while wind and solar combined provided less than 5% of total U.S. electricity in 2013, on the basis of that per-unit electricity production, each of them received more than 50 times more subsidy support than coal and natural gas combined. Cutting so-called carbon “pollution” (more properly known as plant food) will come at a very high cost to electricity consumers, with disproportionate burdens falling upon economically disadvantaged residents of colder northern states. Standard & Poor’s projects 40 to 75 gigawatts (75,000 megawatts) of coal units may be shut down by 2020. Among these, plant owners within America’s largest grid, the mid-Atlantic, plan to eliminate 11,578 MW of available output through 2015. - See more at: www.cfact.org...

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Yea, politicians and corporations (same thing?) really muddy this air pollution argument from all angles. It's a shame that Exxon literally went the tobacco propaganda route after their findings conflicted with their profits.
www.newyorker.com...
What do you do about that? Is it always "buyer beware"? What about those of us who don't want the rest polluting the planet? Where is our say? It's certainly not with the EPA.

I really do wish there were 2 different planets, so the greed beyond caring group could live on one and compassionate communalists could live on the other. That would be a fun experiment.