9/11 Bombshell: Methodical Deception -- Rebekah Roth

originally posted by: Salander
Maybe they thought that most people would interpret what they saw as some innocent art project? That most folks would think "Oh, that's impossible because the government wouldn't allow that"

"Maybe", baby. Maybe.

a reply to: FlySolo

there is a video linked in markdoztelers website... at the 4.08 minute-mark he says these art students were not Israeli. They were German and Austrian.

So why do i recall that these students were referred to as Israelis? Why the disconnect?

a reply to: ontarff

Most of us are waiting for someone to show three buildings that collapsed at freefall speed. WTC's 1,2, and 7 ain't them.

originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: UnderKingsPeak

As a matter of fact, if we are talking about people who pay attention to the Sept 11th debate, the OS sides' dwindling few are dwarfed by an ever growing MUCH larger group of 9/11 Skeptics.

It has been proven that facts, evidence, and the laws of physics do not side with the 9/11 skeptics. In fact, the overwhelming majority of scientist, structural and civil engineers, architects, firefighters, demolition experts and other experts do not agree with 9/11 truthers.

I am very weary of you quoting "laws of physics" without explaining 3 modern steel column supported buildings falling at nearly free fall speed from structural collapse caused by the OS. You (like the 9/11 Commission) have demonstrated ignorance of all data presented that contradicts your opinions. You have ignored the scientific method of determining the facts to support a hypothesis to cogently propose a theory. You haven't proven a majority of anything agrees with your OS. You have hijacked this thread to only rehash the same old OS arguments. Please provide new empirical arguments to support your opinions.



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a reply to: combatmaster

Good question to how the mossad connection was found. So I dug up this

The Original Art Student Connection to 9/11

In January, 2001, the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), Office of Security Programs (IS), began to receive reports of Israeli art students attempting to penetrate several DEA Field Offices in the continental United States.

Additionally, there have been reports of Israeli art students visiting the homes of numerous DEA employees.

These incidents have occurred since at least the beginning of 2000, and have continued to the present. The number of reported incidents increased in November/December 2000, and has continued to date.

I'll be leaving in about 20 minutes but will be back to discuss.

Oh and
911justicehalifax.wordpress.com...

a reply to: ontarff

I am very weary of you quoting "laws of physics" without explaining 3 modern steel column supported buildings falling at nearly free fall speed from structural collapse caused by the OS.

I have already explained why none of the WTC buildings fell at free fall speed. Who told you that they did? Please post your reference that said the WTC buildings fell at free fall speed.

Now let's take a look here and use the laws of physics. Note in the following photos that debris, which are falling at free fall speed, are outpacing the collapse of the WTC Towers.

Photo 1: No Collapse at Free Fall Speed

Photo 2: No Collapse at Free Fall Speed

Who cares about free fall speed I saw them Explode.

a reply to: skyeagle409

I use facts,

You use the fact that people have to say certain things to keep their job
a lot. Like water from a poisoned well.

a reply to: FlySolo

That wasn't my question.

My question was why do you and the rest of ATS call them Israeli, when really, they were german and austrian. watch the b-thing videos, u will see their accent is infact German, not Israeli. none of them have israeli accents.

maybe you just love to hate israel.... which is why you have ignored my previous posts. and the website you linked me to is hogwash. i asked a simple question, so give a simple answer!

a reply to: skyeagle409

It wasn't the Massod either. The Massod had warned the United States that Osama bin Laden had plans to attack America in a large-scale terrorist attack.


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Mossad Warns U.S. of Upcoming Osama bin Laden Attack

The Telegraph has learnt that two senior experts with Mossad, the Israeli military intelligence service, were sent to Washington in August to alert the CIA and FBI to the existence of a cell of as many of 200 terrorists said to be preparing a big operation.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

Like many others who carry water for the "OS", you continually site anonymous-disembodied voices on a radio and articles printed "after the fact" as proofs of your arguement. At the same time you demand hard evidence and expert witnesses from others. Could you show us some hard definative evidence to support your side as much as you demand from those who disagree with you.
The whole discussion of the events of 9/11 have become such a matter of opinions; the only real "proof" will be known when some one has actually exposed the real reasons behind the attacks and those involved.

originally posted by: Gestas
Who cares about free fall speed I saw them Explode.

Thank you!!!

From this layman's perspective, it was close enough to free fall times that fractions of seconds don't matter much.

a reply to: skyeagle409

It wasn't the Massod either. The Massod had warned the United States that Osama bin Laden had plans to attack America in a large-scale terrorist attack.

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

If it is true as Roth claims that Ted Olsen, former Solicitor General, also defended Pollard, then WOW the plot thickens.

a reply to: eisegesis

Actually, this is a part of my attempt at quoting a response from "skyeagle 409".
The quotaion boxes didn't work out this time.

Actually, I am still awaiting some kind of response from this person on the issue I raised.

a reply to: combatmaster

Previous posts? In this thread? You mean singular, not plural and I answered your previous post.

Yeah, that third building. It just fell down.

It was "hit with debris," and it say there and burned for a while, and then it just fell down. Things like this happen all the time.

originally posted by: olddognewtricks
Yeah, that third building. It just fell down.

It was "hit with debris," and it say there and burned for a while, and then it just fell down. Things like this happen all the time.

ak-hdl.buzzfed.com...

a reply to: olddognewtricks FDNY was pretty sure 7 was going to collapse all by itself due to the damage it received when WTC 1 collapsed and since they were there at the foot of 7..... I think I will go with what they say.....

originally posted by: cardinalfan0596
a reply to: olddognewtricks FDNY was pretty sure 7 was going to collapse all by itself due to the damage it received when WTC 1 collapsed and since they were there at the foot of 7..... I think I will go with what they say.....

Documentation, please? And don't say "911 Report. "