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originally posted by: cooperton
originally posted by: MegaSpace
Definitely fake, CGI or drone. When it flips its neck to look down or behind it? Aerodynamically it should have started to drop or descend, but this was still hovering like something was holding it up. Fake
The thing is, we don't commonly observe the flight of a pterodactyl/pteranodon, so we don't know what it would look like in flight. It would be different from a bird because it does not have feathers.... So just because the flying motion seems strange, does not make it fake.
In 1944, in (Papua) New Guinea, Duane Hodgkinson and his friend saw a "pterodactyl" with a wingspan similar to a Piper Tri-Pacer (29 feet).
Mr. Hodgkinson said that he did not see any feathers. As far as I recall, he did not declare that there could not have been any; but he was quite close to the "pterodactyl" when it was running to get airborne: perhaps less than 100 feet away, for the two men and the creature were in the same clearing and that jungle clearing was only about 100 feet across.
This is one of many many eyewitness testimonies of pterodactyles in Paupa New Guinea with one including a whole village witnessing a pterodactyl grab a man, fly him up to a tree and start eating him. (Bats and birds don't normally do that do they?) Society wants to come out of its era of ignorant skepticism brought on by too much brainwashing from tv. Go invest in an education please your weighing us down
Shortly after World War II, as Western missionaries began to penetrate the deep jungles and remote islands of Papua New Guinea, stories of a flying creature called the Ropen ("demon flyer") began to be reported. Duane Hodgkinson was stationed northwest of Lae, near Finschaven, PNG as part of the Army cavalry in 1944. About noon one day in August he was walking down a trail through a clearing in the forest when he was startled by a crashing in the brush. As he watched a large bird-like creature ponderously rose from the ground, circled and flew away.
Hodgkinson, a pilot, estimated the wing-span to be about 20 ft. He clearly recalls the dark-gray coloration, long serpentine neck, beak, and distinctive head crest. Described as a nocturnal creature, the Ropen possesses two leathery wings like a bat, a long tail with a flange on the end, a beak filled with teeth, and razor-sharp claws. An intriguing sea chart dated 1595 warns mariners to beware of a variety of "sea monsters." It depicts two flying creatures with a long necks, headcrests, ribbed wings and fantastical tails (split on the end like a flipper) flying above the islands of New Guinea. One is even shown as having dermal bumps.
Three men describe the pterodactyl-like creature of Umboi Island, Papua New Guinea. They saw the giant ropen (about 1994) flying over Lake Pung.
I interviewed these three young men when I was exploring Umboi Island (Papua New Guinea) in 2004. Seven boys had hiked up to the crater lake (Pung) in about 1994 and they ran home in terror after seeing the giant ropen fly over the lake. I later wrote a book about the ropen.
My expedition on Umboi Island (2004) was just a few weeks before the Guessman-Woetzel expedition. (the real David Woetzel who is an explorer and had nothing to do with a video from a so-called "1924 expedition") I interviewed these three young native men myself and verified Gideon's integrity by testing him with two almost identical drawings.
Japanese World War II Ship Shelled Pterosaur Caves
Three days ago, I received an email from R.K. (anonymous), of the Manus Island area of Papua New Guinea. (We starting communicating earlier this month.) The nocturnal flying creatures that he described to me–I believe they are ropens–were common and were dangerous to local fishermen previous to the early 1940’s, when their numbers declined. In these northern islands, the creature is called “kor.”
Here is part of R.K.’s account of the Japanese retaliation against the creatures that had attacked them:
”...it was the japs [Japanese miliary] on the island who were attacked by the kor. They [Japanese soldiers] apparently shot several wounding them then followed them to cves [caves] and blew [blew up] the entrances. They called ships fire on the hills and pounded them for several hours.”
www.phantomsandmonsters.com...
originally posted by: MegaSpace
Aerodynamically speaking it's impossible for any creature while on flight to have its wings dipping downwards & its whole body facing down & still be hovering like the way that was. A little decent yes, just hovering impossible. Then there is gravity, this defied gravity.
originally posted by: cooperton
originally posted by: MegaSpace
Hmm, I think of its wings like a parachute.... It's wings only work in one direction, when it goes upside down (like a parachute would if it would abruptly go upside down) it momentarily has very little wind resistance, allowing it to look behind itself without much lag in its flight. It does drop down a bit when it does this maneuver, as you would expect with gravity.
Remember, they do not have feathers, so its aerodynamics will be foreign to us.
This vid could be fake though, but, there are plenty of other pteranodon/pterodactyl sightings and photos that insists humans are/were around when these creatures were alive.
Impossible, did you actually see the footage? If you carefully observe, you'll see the wings are facing strait down which is impossible for them to act as parachutes. Reality wise, that should have slowed down & drop even, it didnt but hovered which is impossible unless there was some string holding it up. Im a photographer & have a trained eye for details, im also technically minded know what im seeing.
i still think there's a possibility that a small number of these creatures survived in one way or the other, that's why we have cryptozoology and there are accounts of them surviving: Lock Ness Monster, Kongamato,Mokele Mbembe and of course we have the above mentioned coelacanth that is a pre historic creature that survived and with so many unexplored areas of our planet both in water and land who knows what we will find?
originally posted by: MegaSpace
Impossible, did you actually see the footage? If you carefully observe, you'll see the wings are facing strait down which is impossible for them to act as parachutes. Reality wise, that should have slowed down & drop even, it didnt but hovered which is impossible unless there was some string holding it up. Im a photographer & have a trained eye for details, im also technically minded know what im seeing.
originally posted by: Kandinsky
It's too much to explain how these things could be biologically real. We have to get into habitats, sustainable resources for food and breeding populations etc. These guys cannot exist by themselves.
originally posted by: Murgatroid
If these things were in fact fake, there wouldn't be so many credible eyewitness sightings...
originally posted by: Murgatroid
a reply to: InnerPeace2012
Ohhh thats right, I totally forgot you live there...
Are there any recent sightings you have heard about or do you think they might have died off?
originally posted by: InnerPeace2012
They seem to be nocturnal, come out during night times only...I am based in Port Moresby city, so the guys who travel in from the bushes do tell of their tales it's alive and well here the storiessightings.
The was once incident sometime back were I guy got snatched by this thing, their are reports of survivors of this strange flying beasts, although I haven't come first to face with on survivor yet.
There is just too many witness accounts here to dismiss this flying monsters.
I will update as soon as get some new info or stories..
Peace