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originally posted by: Woodcarver
You rebel, you.
originally posted by: undo
originally posted by: stargatetravels
originally posted by: undo
on. my sister is one of the ladies who speaks in the events. she's been speaking at them since ..........well for at least 20 years. she woke me up from a coma. i love my sis.
Were you religious before this event or did this convert you, just wondering?
i was a christian but didn't attend a church.
Ohmygosh, why are theists so desperate to stick a belief system label on to people who lack belief in gods?!
originally posted by: Konduit
#3 made me chuckle. Although atheists aren't "religious" by dictionary definition, it's still a belief system considering it cannot be definitively proved or disproved with our current understanding of the universe.
originally posted by: openyourmind1262
God is imaginary....prove its not? And that's the ONE way you annoy a person of faith. Go ahead and suspend reality as we know it to prove Gods not imaginary.
originally posted by: Grimpachi
originally posted by: openyourmind1262
God is imaginary....prove its not? And that's the ONE way you annoy a person of faith. Go ahead and suspend reality as we know it to prove Gods not imaginary.
The easiest way to annoy a theist is simply ask for evidence.
There is a thread on here asking for evidence of creationism, it is 19 pages in and the evidence provided is still stuck at zero. The theists seem really annoyed by that.
originally posted by: Metallicus
First, I do apologize for my link leading to a Facebook post. I truly despise Facebook and to a lesser extent all social media and I know many of you don't have an account.
Second, I love to play devil's advocate and at times troll certain groups of self-righteous individuals that I find amusing or annoying and one of my favorite targets is Atheists. While I do like to poke fun at them at times I generally feel sorry for them so this is intended in jest and not so much as trying to kick a group of people while they are down.
Thirdly, I am not religious, but consider myself spiritual. I don't know exactly what form the Prime Mover takes, but I am convinced there is more to this elegant universe of ours than some random mixing of gasses and liquids.
Anyway, please see HERE for the complete list, but I have posted some highlights below for those of you that can't or don't wish to view the post on Facebook.
99 Ways to Annoy an Atheist
1. Ask her why they are bitter against God.
3. At every available opportunity refer to Atheism as "a religion".
6. Use multiple versions of Pascal's Wager as though you thought them up yourself.
12. Use the fact that the Atheist can't fully explain to you how the universe was formed as evidence that god done it.
14. Say you will pray for her; And make sure they know you said it out of spite.
15. No matter how many times you are corrected and how much evidence you see to the contrary ... Always claim that America is a Christian nation founded by Christians on Christian principles.
16. Say that separation of church and state isn't in the Constitution; insist that the Constitution is based on the Ten Commandments.
17. Accuse them of persecuting you.
18. Point out that we all take things on faith.
19. Use the Second Law of Thermodynamics to disprove evolution.
20. Before starting an argument, say "You're an atheist? That means you're going to hell!"
21. After losing the argument say, "I pity you."
29. Insist that the Bible is meant to be taken literally — all except that verse they just showed you.
42. Claim that logic is the atheist's god.
43. Use only circular reasoning.
46. Use the phrase "Hate the sin, love the sinner" as a blanket response to the notion that Christianity is at fault for something.
47. State that Christianity has done a lot of good along with all the mass murder.
48. When they take the time and trouble to explain where your analogy or interpretation is at fault, begin your response with a *sigh*, so he'll know how patient you're being.
52. Tell them that Christians aren't perfect — just forgiven.
58. Tell them it's his responsibility to prove that God doesn't exist.
64. When something awful happens, tell them not to blame God — he doesn't interfere.
65. When something wonderful happens, tell them to credit God — he made it happen.
67. …then tell them that babies automatically go to heaven.
68. …and mentally retarded people.
69. …and those with Down's Syndrome.
70. Treat nothing they says as credible, because they are possessed by Satan.
Enjoy!
Yes exactly. They are only irritating in so far as many of the points are idiotic, so the conversation goes nowhere. The points only degrade fundamentalist Christians' credibility further. I have heard most of these before.
originally posted by: Sremmos80
None of these would really annoy an Atheist, just make them laugh.
I hope who ever made this list wasn't serious, I did get a good laugh from it.
I am agnostic more tho, so maybe that is why.
We need to add the ultimate to this list: claim to not be a Christian but then say or post statements like in the list: "I'm not a Christian but I don't see any reason the Bible isn't the word of God."
originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: Metallicus
The list omits two that can easily be picked up from ATS postings;
X; Tell them you're an agnostic
Y; Tell them that they ought to call themselves agnostics.
originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14
Such a statement only supports the idea that people of faith do not think logically.
...oh, and I repeat, an atheist is just someone who does not believe in any gods. It is not a term to describe those who believe gods do not exist.
Lack of belief in itself rewards one with the atheist label. No added value required or claimable.
*Edit*
The more I think about it the more the list in the OP appears to just ridicule those of faith lol.
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
We need to add the ultimate to this list: claim to not be a Christian but then say or post statements like in the list: "I'm not a Christian but I don't see any reason the Bible isn't the word of God."
originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: Metallicus
The list omits two that can easily be picked up from ATS postings;
X; Tell them you're an agnostic
Y; Tell them that they ought to call themselves agnostics.
originally posted by: undo
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
We need to add the ultimate to this list: claim to not be a Christian but then say or post statements like in the list: "I'm not a Christian but I don't see any reason the Bible isn't the word of God."
originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: Metallicus
The list omits two that can easily be picked up from ATS postings;
X; Tell them you're an agnostic
Y; Tell them that they ought to call themselves agnostics.
or my personal variant: i'm a christian but i may not interpret the bible the way you want me to. if you don't like it, blame it on 500 years of being told that noah put all the animals on the planet in the ark, that we were cursed in the garden for being smart, that the earth is 6000 years old, that there was only one god in the old testament, that christians approve of mosaic law, that jesus was anti-gay, that jesus was pro-slavery, and the list goes on. and on. and on.
you dont want my list of things people say. lol
My favorite way of putting it is that there are no good reasons to believe in gods. Therefor, i do not believe that gods exist.
originally posted by: grainofsand
Ohmygosh, why are theists so desperate to stick a belief system label on to people who lack belief in gods?!
originally posted by: Konduit
#3 made me chuckle. Although atheists aren't "religious" by dictionary definition, it's still a belief system considering it cannot be definitively proved or disproved with our current understanding of the universe.
Theist = believes in a god.
Atheist = does not believe in any gods.
I was taught to believe in the Christian 'God' as a child. I grew up, questioned it, investigated all the major conflicting religions of the world then realised that they are all completely unverifiable. Not a shred of supporting evidence outside of multiple translated old texts written by (again) unverifiable authors.
With no evidence stronger than the testimony of others I stopped believing in any 'higher power'.
It requires faith/belief to state that gods exist.
It requires faith/belief to state that gods do not exist.
It requires zero faith/belief to state that one does not believe in gods. Lack of belief in gods is the only requirement to be categorised as atheist.
Granted, there are atheists who do 'believe' there are no gods but such folk do not have the monopoly of the term atheist. A simple lack of belief = atheist.
I am pleased it is getting better on the internet over the years with much less religious ignorance and zealotry, certainly on ATS, but please people, educate yourselves and don't just believe the pastors definition of an atheist. It is silly, and rather pathetic.
Atheist is simply a wide umbrella term for 'one who does not believe in gods', it is not a term specifically describing 'one who believes there are no gods' - although I accept there are some atheists who 'believe' gods do not exist.
I could be described as an agnostic atheist, but it makes me no less atheist.
There are agnostic theists as well, sheesh some people should study some basic high school level philosophy.