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originally posted by: Murgatroid
a reply to: Barcs
Actually I HAVE posted dozens of opinions of ex-religious people, probably more closer to several hundred.
One example from last year:
originally posted by: Murgatroid
a reply to: BlackArrow
This has nothing to do with religion...
Religion is nothing but more lies and hidden agendas like I mentioned above.
The demonic and religion both have a common source.
This is why they are BOTH are surrounded by nothing but lies and deception.
By studying those who have escaped the belly of the beast, this becomes very apparent: Ex-nun Charlotte Keckler, former Catholic priests Richard Bennett, Malachi Martin, and Jeremiah J. Crowley, Leo H. Lehmann, Kamal Saleem , Linda Laine, Naeem Fazal, etc.
In fact I believe I even used the same "rat poison for the soul" analogy with them.
I also hold religion to the same standard as evolution simply because I am 100% convinced they come from the same source.
The agenda for both is identical as well.
Concerning the intentional hoaxes perpetuated by the church...
I posted in another thread not 10 minutes ago about the fact that it's common knowledge among satanists that the church has been infiltrated.
You've probably seen posts I've written on this before, there are quite a few in fact.
Why are your standards different for creationism than they are for everything else that you think is a lie?
Imagine for just a second that God shows up at your house one day out of the blue and makes it VERY clear that he is alive and well...
This is exactly what happened to me back in 1979.
And that was just one experience of many.
I can 100% guarantee that if this ever happens to you, it will radically affect everything you believe about spiritual matters.
One's beliefs cannot remain the same once they experience some thing this profound.
I was an atheist when this happened BTW.
Now you mentioned that you were genuinely curious which I find pretty fascinating.
How often do you we someone on ATS say "hey buddy, why the hell do you believe that stuff?"
Not very often which is something that has always bothered me.
Bottom line is that you have earned my respect by saying what you really think...
If this post seems a little short on explanations it's simply because I have to run out the door in a minute.
Imagine for just a second that God shows up at your house one day out of the blue and makes it VERY clear that he is alive and well...
This is exactly what happened to me back in 1979.
originally posted by: Murgatroid
a reply to: Barcs
Actually I HAVE posted dozens of opinions of ex-religious people, probably more closer to several hundred.
One example from last year:
originally posted by: Murgatroid
a reply to: BlackArrow
This has nothing to do with religion...
Religion is nothing but more lies and hidden agendas like I mentioned above.
The demonic and religion both have a common source.
This is why they are BOTH are surrounded by nothing but lies and deception.
By studying those who have escaped the belly of the beast, this becomes very apparent: Ex-nun Charlotte Keckler, former Catholic priests Richard Bennett, Malachi Martin, and Jeremiah J. Crowley, Leo H. Lehmann, Kamal Saleem , Linda Laine, Naeem Fazal, etc.
In fact I believe I even used the same "rat poison for the soul" analogy with them.
I also hold religion to the same standard as evolution simply because I am 100% convinced they come from the same source.
The agenda for both is identical as well.
Concerning the intentional hoaxes perpetuated by the church...
I posted in another thread not 10 minutes ago about the fact that it's common knowledge among satanists that the church has been infiltrated.
You've probably seen posts I've written on this before, there are quite a few in fact.
Why are your standards different for creationism than they are for everything else that you think is a lie?
Imagine for just a second that God shows up at your house one day out of the blue and makes it VERY clear that he is alive and well...
This is exactly what happened to me back in 1979.
And that was just one experience of many.
I can 100% guarantee that if this ever happens to you, it will radically affect everything you believe about spiritual matters.
One's beliefs cannot remain the same once they experience some thing this profound.
I was an atheist when this happened BTW.
Now you mentioned that you were genuinely curious which I find pretty fascinating.
How often do you we someone on ATS say "hey buddy, why the hell do you believe that stuff?"
Not very often which is something that has always bothered me.
Bottom line is that you have earned my respect by saying what you really think...
If this post seems a little short on explanations it's simply because I have to run out the door in a minute.
originally posted by: TheChrome
originally posted by: Murgatroid
a reply to: Barcs
Actually I HAVE posted dozens of opinions of ex-religious people, probably more closer to several hundred.
One example from last year:
originally posted by: Murgatroid
a reply to: BlackArrow
This has nothing to do with religion...
Religion is nothing but more lies and hidden agendas like I mentioned above.
The demonic and religion both have a common source.
This is why they are BOTH are surrounded by nothing but lies and deception.
By studying those who have escaped the belly of the beast, this becomes very apparent: Ex-nun Charlotte Keckler, former Catholic priests Richard Bennett, Malachi Martin, and Jeremiah J. Crowley, Leo H. Lehmann, Kamal Saleem , Linda Laine, Naeem Fazal, etc.
In fact I believe I even used the same "rat poison for the soul" analogy with them.
I also hold religion to the same standard as evolution simply because I am 100% convinced they come from the same source.
The agenda for both is identical as well.
Concerning the intentional hoaxes perpetuated by the church...
I posted in another thread not 10 minutes ago about the fact that it's common knowledge among satanists that the church has been infiltrated.
You've probably seen posts I've written on this before, there are quite a few in fact.
Why are your standards different for creationism than they are for everything else that you think is a lie?
Imagine for just a second that God shows up at your house one day out of the blue and makes it VERY clear that he is alive and well...
This is exactly what happened to me back in 1979.
And that was just one experience of many.
I can 100% guarantee that if this ever happens to you, it will radically affect everything you believe about spiritual matters.
One's beliefs cannot remain the same once they experience some thing this profound.
I was an atheist when this happened BTW.
Now you mentioned that you were genuinely curious which I find pretty fascinating.
How often do you we someone on ATS say "hey buddy, why the hell do you believe that stuff?"
Not very often which is something that has always bothered me.
Bottom line is that you have earned my respect by saying what you really think...
If this post seems a little short on explanations it's simply because I have to run out the door in a minute.
I agree with your analysis, because of the reason science and religion are generally just as clueless as the ultimate facts. Every statement I have ever seen from an atheist, is lacking knowledge of the bible. Unless you want to just post a random wikipedia link. In all fairness, I disagree with the majority of religion as well. Wow! If I disagree with religion and science, I expect to end up in jail soon!
originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: 3danimator2014
because most of the people who worship yehovah or allah have been taught to resent the human condition. thats what sin is for, the idea that humans are fatally, disgustingly flawed. its a shame tactic and its basic psychopathy. because thats how you become their savior, by giving them something to save them from. pretty twisted.
the garden of eden was basically a mythological 9/11.
originally posted by: 3danimator2014
Im not calling you a liar. I believe you truely belive that he turned up etc...but i dont belive that that is what really heppened. Why would god show up at your house and not interevene to save that poor 3 year old who drowned? Doesnt make sense.
In heaven, children are there, all the ones who died young, in childbirth, or were aborted.
Link
originally posted by: Murgatroid
In heaven, children are there, all the ones who died young, in childbirth, or were aborted.
originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: edmc^2
You still on this thread? After being outed as someone who doesn't read his own links?
Your contribution has been shown to be valueless. Yet you persist. Extraordinary.
originally posted by: Murgatroid
originally posted by: TzarChasm
what exactly was this experience?
I had a supernatural experience back in the late 70's that left a profound impact on my life.
See posts here and here...
originally posted by: nullafides
If someone tells me the moon is made out of cheese, I am not in the slightest bit interested in proving them wrong. I for one am interested in coming to a better understanding of the basis of their belief and why they believe that in the first place.
Can we test your encounter? Repeat it, study it, measure it?
Now comes the crazy part. You may find this hard to believe, but here's what happened. I was just sitting there when all of a sudden a voice inside my head that was not my own asked this question right out of nowhere:
"How would you like to see God?"
Without giving it even a second thought, immediately I answered, "Of course! Who wouldn't?!" Especially doubters like me. Then I heard this still, silent voice say:
"Okay, if you want to see God, go into the living room. He's in there."
"Look at the coffee table. What do you see on it?"
Walk over, pick up that Bible off the coffee table, and hold it in your hands."
I heard this voice inside my head one last time, and it said:
"What you are holding is Jesus Christ in print."
THE INCREDIBLE BIBLE MIRACLE!
Like the poster below says, ATS at times seems to have become a crab barrel where the goal is to see who can be the first one to rush in and slam the person, ridicule the messenger and not even truly consider their ideas...
If someone tells me the moon is made out of cheese, I am not in the slightest bit interested in proving them wrong. I for one am interested in coming to a better understanding of the basis of their belief and why they believe that in the first place.
originally posted by: Prezbo369
Yeah im sure you'd like your outrageous and anecdotal claims to be taken as seriously as falsifiable scientific claims but thankfully that will never happen.
For all that is secret will eventually be brought into the open, and everything that is concealed will be brought to light and made known to all. ~ Luke 8:17
originally posted by: zorgon
"The louder the opposition protests, the more I know I am on the right track"
originally posted by: edmc^2
Really? you mean spontaneous generation is not the same as abiogenesis?