Can you feel it in the air???

a reply to: Hijinx

You should maybe let the sell-off continue a bit more THEN it's a good time to make some investments.

a reply to: BattleStarGal

US Dollar Index was at $96+ last week, today it's at $92.84

Not looking good so far - China's devaluation should result in about a 30% "correction" but with how manipulated everything is I doubt it would go that far.

Propping up the bubble for as long as they can...

a reply to: FamCore

CBOE Volatility Index S&P 500 VIX 28.03 +8.89 +46.45% , WOOW isnt this the fear index ?

News like this makes me realize how unprepared I really am, if everything suddenly went balls up I wouldn't know where to start in all honesty, the only experience of survival I have is from playing DayZ, I am aware of power that rules most of the planet, and I try and share my theories to help people through some of the manipulation and fear mongering I see, but the truth is I am just as helpless as the next person, very scary for me, after all I am only blood and flesh.

Either the wealthy sort out their issues or the Real People will be in for a bumpy ride. Prison Planet makes more sense than ever now, you are never free until you can actually leave this rock, Moving to Alaska or the Countryside of any country is not really setting yourself free, maybe it was some sort of freedom a few decades ago, but not now, that EYE sees EVERYTHING these days.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: babybunnies
Also, invest under DEmocrat Presidents, and remove the money from the market under Republican ones.

...and you were being so level headed and painfully logical.

It really doesn't matter who the president is or isn't in the short term... what matters are things like passing the TPP. In the long run, the TPP may make the market grow, but if there are so many jobs lost and middle class America can't afford to invest, does that market growth even matter?

Amen burdman. One of the few "must do" chores of our present
occupant of 1600 was to get the Great Equalizer cemented in...
and the TPP got implemented almost hours before the markets
began to tank. FDR would have been proud of the coincidence/
connection.

I've been buying tools since 1985... and never looked back. The
time may come when a value-added employee will be just the
self employed who can still get it done after we're supposedly
done. I would however hate to be right about the markets.

a reply to: yorkshirelad

You want to see true free markets? Watch what happens after this crony system collapses and people have to barter to survive.

originally posted by: derfreebie

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: babybunnies
Also, invest under DEmocrat Presidents, and remove the money from the market under Republican ones.

...and you were being so level headed and painfully logical.

It really doesn't matter who the president is or isn't in the short term... what matters are things like passing the TPP. In the long run, the TPP may make the market grow, but if there are so many jobs lost and middle class America can't afford to invest, does that market growth even matter?

Amen burdman. One of the few "must do" chores of our present
occupant of 1600 was to get the Great Equalizer cemented in...
and the TPP got implemented almost hours before the markets
began to tank. FDR would have been proud of the coincidence/
connection.

I've been buying tools since 1985... and never looked back. The
time may come when a value-added employee will be just the
self employed who can still get it done after we're supposedly
done. I would however hate to be right about the markets.

The TPP has not been implemented. In fact the next round of negotiations have not been scheduled yet. NAFTA is meeting right now to hammer out how to make sure the TPP does undermine the auto parts of NAFTA. That has not been settled either. So the TPP is nowhere near being done.

Is it hot? Cuz, if it is hot then.... Yes, I can in fact feel it in the air.... And it sucks!

It's like a whirlpool, the more people feel like it is all going to Hell, the more to Hell it goEd. Self fulfilling.

a reply to: yorkshirelad

So invest 10% of your income... Say your pay cheque is 1500, you invest 150... for me that's a few good dinners out which is something we still can do after investing that small portion of my money, another 10% goes into a TFSA automatically every pay day. I move more funds in and out of accounts as I see fit, the idea behind investing is that it's money you can afford to lose. Don't put all your savings into investments, that's incredibly stupid. I know folks that drink or gamble larger portions than i invest and my investments are currently growing so I could not be happier. You need to understand it will go up and down. Make long term, lower risk investments and do not rely on them. The idea is maybe in the future you will make some money you can put towards retirement, or a house, or a car, or heck maybe you're one of those lucky S.O.B.s that happens to buy into a company that just takes off.

a reply to: BattleStarGal

It simply looks to me like capital is going to be put to work instead of put back into capital. If you're worried, you don't understand economic systems. Money was being stuffed into markets, now money is going to be put to work. It doesn't disappear when stocks go down. Pure silliness.

It is not in the air it's in my wallet and in every bodies wallet. ..

a reply to: BattleStarGal

I was about to make a thread with almost the exact same Title and thats one week after all markets were in the red minus and most of them have been 'corrected' by now.

But it's not only the markets. The 2 explosions in china, one in Japan. The 'shooting' that was big in the MSM (with confirmed HOAXERS as family members)while markets were struggling hard in the background and thats without mentioning the Bangkok terrorist attack.Rumours about upcoming UK terrorist attack.

No one is safe these days :/

originally posted by: AutOmatIc
a reply to: yorkshirelad

I say good riddance to an archaic system. A completely make-believe, pretend system that has plagued all humans for far too long now. A system that benefits only a small percentage of humans on the planet while the rest are perpetually in slavery for their entire time on this planet, in this reality.

Let it crash and burn. Life is too short to spend it being a wage slave. We should all be able to have good creature comforts, and never have to worry about rent, bills, how we're going to eat etc.

The world badly needs a reset so that everybody can live life and enjoy it without being a slave.

From your comment, I have to assume that you live in some despicable place (you don't revealed it in your profile). I happen to live in the USA where I still see the vast majority living life far better than most places on earth. Personally, I'd rather be poor here than rich in Iran for example.

If you do live in the USA, tell me what you are doing to make it a better place for those who don't have what you have. I just don't get your line of thinking. Are you really ready for a total collapse of the economic system as we know it and to what end? Would you prefer all to suffer equally?

a reply to: Eagleyedobserver

Agreed.

However, markets are not "corrected."

We may see more turbulence tomorrow. Perhaps even a second Black Monday.

I don't know if it's been posted on ATS yet, but some might find this interesting:
www.independent.co.uk...

A former adviser to Gordon Brown has urged people to stock up on canned goods and bottled water as stock markets around the world slide.

Damian McBride appeared to suggest that the stock market dip could lead to civil disorder or other situations where it would be unreasonable for someone to leave the house.

“Advice on the looming crash, No.1: get hard cash in a safe place now; don't assume banks & cashpoints will be open, or bank cards will work,” he tweeted.

“Crash advice No.2: do you have enough bottled water, tinned goods & other essentials at home to live a month indoors? If not, get shopping.

“Crash advice No.3: agree a rally point with your loved ones in case transport and communication gets cut off; somewhere you can all head to.''

“We were close enough in 2008 (if the bank bailout hadn't worked),” he said. “and what's coming is on 20 times that scale”.

Warnings such as these leave me pretty numb though; to me it's just more noise. Societal collapse is being predicted all the time and many seem to gloat over the idea, and the causes of said collapse differ per subject, too. Sometimes it's the crisis, then it's an environmental disaster, then there's a looming civil war (in Europe)... we'll see I guess.

I do know that the 2008/2009 crisis was predicted, actually, before it even happened I saw an interview in which an academic predicted the collapse of the bubble.

On the other hand, I don't have money nor place to store ungodly amounts of canned food and bottles of water

Not that I'm very positive about the current state of affairs; NOTHING useful has been done to fix the issues that caused the crisis, symbolic measures *at most*. But it's like with doom porn regarding a big meteorite or volcano that'll kill most of us and leave the rest of our kind in a miserable deserted wasteland: panicking won't help either.

originally posted by: BattleStarGal
a reply to: Eagleyedobserver

Agreed.

However, markets are not "corrected."

We may see more turbulence tomorrow. Perhaps even a second Black Monday.

Holy Crap. Actually a 3rd explosion in china today. The chances of it being a coincidence are getting smaller and smaller... but causes more confusion.

www.mirror.co.uk...