Bernie Sanders: Abolish Private Prisons

originally posted by: TheAmazingYeti
I'm really excited about Bernies run for President. Bernie Vs Trump would make for interesting times.

If only we were so lucky.

Either one will be different than what we have been getting, I'm ready for a real change.

Hopefully if Burney wins I will be wrong and he will be the real deal.

a reply to: Swills

I am very glad he is willing to take this stand. Private prisons are an expression of crony capitalism on Crack. The State has an abiding responsibility for those it chooses to incarcerate. Farming out prisoners/slave labour to private corporations is an obscenity. I hope my family in the U.S.A. will pay careful attention to what he is saying in this regard.

a reply to: Swills

Good luck. The last president couldn't even close one Guantanamo.

Besides, the elite need all the prisoners as their break glass in case of emergency private army.

You know, to quell the coming revolt. Open the gates, arm and finance them, promise immunity and turn them loose in the cities.

Just like Iraq, Libya and Syria.

a reply to: introvert

Obviously you know nothing about China. They are capitalist baby. You think the sweat shops benefit the collective?

no they benefit the government, hence socialist. sweatshops mandated and over seen by the, duh duh duh GOV! weird I know right

Despite that fact, I do agree with Bernie on this premise

originally posted by: johnwick

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Swills

You are witnessing the true substance behind the socialist ideology. It's not a push to create a Stalin or Mao-like state. It's about the people and what is best for society as a whole, not just the privileged and wealthy.

I'm actually hesitant on Sanders Because he is not socialist enough for me, but it appears he may be the best option to combat the insanity we experience in the American political landscape today.

We shall see.

Socialism doesn't work, it has been tried and failed miserably every single time.

The only times it hasn't failed are not true socialism.

They are Sudo socialism at best.

Exactly, I think it could work with our form of government. As long as we don't turn into a Monarchy, or Dictatorship. Or at the very least give it a try.

originally posted by: jiwmard91

originally posted by: johnwick

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Swills

You are witnessing the true substance behind the socialist ideology. It's not a push to create a Stalin or Mao-like state. It's about the people and what is best for society as a whole, not just the privileged and wealthy.

I'm actually hesitant on Sanders Because he is not socialist enough for me, but it appears he may be the best option to combat the insanity we experience in the American political landscape today.

We shall see.

Socialism doesn't work, it has been tried and failed miserably every single time.

The only times it hasn't failed are not true socialism.

They are Sudo socialism at best.

Exactly, I think it could work with our form of government. As long as we don't turn into a Monarchy, or Dictatorship. Or at the very least give it a try.

So you want to give our government, the US government, absolute power and hope for the best?


Lol

a reply to: johnwick

Get the right people in there yeah, I know it's a pipe dream but we can dream right?

originally posted by: jiwmard91
a reply to: johnwick

Get the right people in there yeah, I know it's a pipe dream but we can dream right?

I'm of the oppinion that every single person in our government should be fired, and most likely at least half jailed.

I want them to have vastly less power over us, not more.

Freedom has been good to us.

Why would you want to be enslaved to the government?

a reply to: johnwick

Agreed but could we honestly be anymore enslaved than what we are already?

Would you rather have someone like Trump, or Hildog running the show?

I'm just thinking more and more change may be good but it could also be bad, But if we stay on track the way we are going it will end badly for us all.

a reply to: Swills

He's a socialist. This is hardly shocking. He'll abolish as much private anything as he feels he can get away with. He just happens to have picked a soft target, so you think it's all cool.

a reply to: ketsuko

Soft target? Really, that's what you call getting rid of private prisons?

Agree to completely disagree.

a reply to: ketsuko
Nice attempt of a character attack on Bernie.
It is obvious the right wing is very scared of Bernie Sanders, hence all of the comments about Bernie being a socialist and how his moderate socialist views are some how bad.
US has been adopting elements of socialism for many generations now and it is NOT a bad thing. Crony capitalism is the real threat to the US.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Swills

He's a socialist. This is hardly shocking. He'll abolish as much private anything as he feels he can get away with. He just happens to have picked a soft target, so you think it's all cool.

The only thing you got right in this statement was that he is a Socialist and that you only got half right. He is a Democratic Socialist. Democratic Socialism is a blend of both capitalism and socialism. In democratic socialism the government works for the poor and middle class instead of the government working for the wealthy like here in America.

a reply to: ketsuko

I for one welcome socialist changes to American health care and education. I don't see much wrong with more affordable health care access and a better education for less money...

a reply to: TheAmazingYeti
Without any doubt, the US's for profit healthcare system is a failure. I can only hope that the US can mature to a level where can get socialized healthcare.
Education and student loans becoming the new form of indentured servitude is another example of how capitalism is failing in the USA.

a reply to: Swills

Brilliant, appease the Public Sector Unions and the system that has given us rapes, murders and the hardening of future criminals in our "rehabilitation System".

Classic Democrat...

originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: Swills

Brilliant, appease the Public Sector Unions and the system that has given us rapes, murders and the hardening of future criminals in our "rehabilitation System".

Classic Democrat...

If it wasn't for public sector unions there never would have been a middle class and to blame them for rapes and murders is just plain ignorance. The private sector prisons is the result of good old capitalism and that is classical republican agenda. Profit before people is their dogma.

a reply to: buster2010

LMAO, there was a "middle class" long before public sector unions.

One might make that argument about private sector unions, but even in my day the "public sector" was the "civil service".

The Public sector Unions have ZERO to do with the middle class other than putting further financial burdens on that "middle Class" via over-paid, over-benefits and 'tenures' and the like.

Besides, the worst example of public sector unions IS the Rehabilitation service. A definite crime against humanity....

Just do a study on Idaho's private prison experience. This is one article on the scandal. Thank you Bernie for noticing.

www.boiseweekly.com...

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Swills

He's a socialist. This is hardly shocking. He'll abolish as much private anything as he feels he can get away with. He just happens to have picked a soft target, so you think it's all cool.

The only thing you got right in this statement was that he is a Socialist and that you only got half right. He is a Democratic Socialist. Democratic Socialism is a blend of both capitalism and socialism. In democratic socialism the government works for the poor and middle class instead of the government working for the wealthy like here in America.

I didn't want to get in to the whole "socialist" issue so that I did not derail the OP's thread, but I get real tired of trying to explain socialism to people. So many people are uneducated and believe what they have been told by the media. There are comments on this thread that show the ignorance that is taught and very few seem willing to actually discuss the issue without resorting to the ad nauseum remarks.