You hear it all the time, but trust me it is right around the corner.

a reply to: iksmodnad

I totally agree, you listen to so called experts on all the talk and tv shows and at the end nothing changes. Then someone announced a new finding and then it turns out to be fool's gold. The subject alone is mind blowing, but between misinformation from Gov. and all the so-called experts really selling books and material under the guise of new information seems like the movie ground hog day. And although some of the stories are very intriguing but then again no evidence. I'm sure this subject contains both fact and fiction, but until someone is able to break down the process I feel we well end up where we have always ended up. Wondering. I was in the military and somehow I don't buy the stories of all this secrecy being held for so many decades. Roswell is a good story, but why didn't Jesse Marcel keep a piece of the crashed saucer? I'm sure he could have found a way to stash a piece away somewhere.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: MrConspiracy
Kwl. I guess I just sit here and wait for it. It sounds awesome.

I swear down, if it's not true... i'll... not be pleased!!!

CURSE YOU HE MAN!!

Haha yes! Awesome

originally posted by: Shamrock6
You do know American astronauts are still going into space, right? This neat little thing called Soyuz.

As for the rest? Guess we'll see.

Forgive the brevity of my post. I just love these "I know something you don't know" posts with unnamed but oh so well placed sources from agencies that must not be named blah blah blah.

...

Nope! For the most part aliens are indifferent and
depending upon the species (or family group!)
Pure explorers that simply do not interfere
Being just mere observers...or...are active
Technicians involved in multiple science projects,
That being US!

Mild competition between groups is the norm but
overt antagonism is avoided due to them being for
the most part comparatively fragile compared to
humanity's physical robustness and built-in redundancies. War between advanced aliens
would be rare due to a mutual recognition
of its eventual futility!

Space faring species with true interstellar
Capabilities are either fully independent
but have low population due to technological superiority and high mental ascendancy....or....
Are grouped together into multi-species concentrated and collective civilizations
Within chosen and densely populated
star systems and/or within massive artificial
Structures such as Dyson Shells parked in the
Great voids between Superclusters.

We humans are a rapidly ascending species
Due to outside help and a more or less lucky
draw of the straw in the resource rich planetary
Environment sweepstakes. Unfortunately our
Collective Mental state had not kept up with
Our technological capabilities...ergo, we the
The five year old who has found the loaded gun!

It is likely only small pockets of humanity will
Refine their mental state and their technological
Prowess joining with and obtaining help from
great civilations while leaving the rest of humanity
in the dust or leaving us to fend for ourselves.

I quite despise the above scenario and think it
Would be better for all humanity to be FORCED
INTO a crash course on extragalactic exopolitics
And moving forward as an ENTIRE species rather
Than have small pockets of humanity feel themselves above the riff-raff and leaving us
To die off in an unforgiving spatial environment
With no mental and technological tools to
defend ourselves.

Ergo, full disclosure is imperative and a FULL
And FAST program of GLOBAL technological
speed up and immediate human expansion
into space is needed ... RIGHT NOW!!!

In terms of which type of alien to contact,
I will use a Star Trek analogy...Some species
In Star Trek such as the Q-continuum are
So far ahead as to be unfathomable to our
understanding and base Sensibilities.

We are so different there wouldn't be any point
Because an amoeba like us can't possibly have
Anything in common with an utter super intelligence god-like entity. On the other
hand we DO have something in common with
the Vulcans and the Klingons...or even the
Ferengi...there would be a base commonality
of attitude and Expectation...ergo we humans
need to find and join the Dyson Shell dwellers ASAP because joining an already established team
with lots of resources is FAAAAR Better than trying
to go it alone thinking we can grow into a another
Q-continuum!

The reality is that it is UNLIKELY that we would
Be one of the lucky few species who are the
Superstars of Alien Civilizations ... It's a 99.9999%
Likelihood we are only gonna be a defensive
lineman because we just DO NOT have what it
Takes to be the Quarterback or CEO!

Anyways, I've always wondered what would be
Like to visit or live in a Dyson Shell....!!!

I love the part where the tall treys and 80 other types of aliens want disclosure..

I had no idea there were that many and if they want disclosure why not park a ufo in the middle of the street.. You get the greys and thier buddy's , that's a lot of disclosing..

Why is it always a high ranking government official that's going to disclose aliens but never can disclose thier name?

a reply to: grey580

Astr0 is back!!!!

originally posted by: MrConspiracy

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: MrConspiracy
Kwl. I guess I just sit here and wait for it. It sounds awesome.

I swear down, if it's not true... i'll... not be pleased!!!

CURSE YOU HE MAN!!

Haha yes! Awesome

YEah i saw the skeletor avatar and coudnt resist.
And to the poster below known as "oOptimist" No Astr0 isnt back. he went back to the RK's ship and or home. Im sure he still lurks from time to time but its only to keep tabs on some sleepers. ANd "Stargate" If we dont get our acts together they do intend to leave the rest of humanity in 2035 or there abouts.

a reply to: yuppa

do aliens not think its a bit unfair that say 80% of the planet humans want things to better and we are willing to be all we can be for the sake of our species , and its those who claim control of our planet that are the ones holding us back!

So why is it that we need to buck up , when its not us the greater whole who need to get their act together its the case of the rotten apples spoiling the rest !

So it's kind of unfair saying we need to get our act together when we are ready and willing yet the others stop us from becoming a great species due to greed and power battles.

Or do the aliens want us to rise up against our oppressors and throw off our shackles and take control ourselves ?

It's all so confusing

originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: yuppa

do aliens not think its a bit unfair that say 80% of the planet humans want things to better and we are willing to be all we can be for the sake of our species , and its those who claim control of our planet that are the ones holding us back!

So why is it that we need to buck up , when its not us the greater whole who need to get their act together its the case of the rotten apples spoiling the rest !

So it's kind of unfair saying we need to get our act together when we are ready and willing yet the others stop us from becoming a great species due to greed and power battles.

Or do the aliens want us to rise up against our oppressors and throw off our shackles and take control ourselves ?

It's all so confusing

Well considering the RKs are not aliens but another breed of humans they dont sympathize and coddle humanity as Benevolent aliens would. Reason i was given is that we are basically hostages to the powers that be. They have asked a few times but have been denied the chance to disclose the tech to th egeneral population of earth by the ones in control.
See the governments also have the same tech the RKs do and its a stalemate. Their commander/leader has even tried to force the issue before but the ones running the government threatened to kill off the people if they did so because their control would be gone or lessened and w e all know what they do for their power and money.
Even if we did rise up they would just nuke us all and move underground.

When the RKs get all thir supplies needed by 2035 and leave humanity will see the ships departing and then humanity will be alone once again. But look at it this way. consider them your children going off to find new worlds and places to live and be happy for them instead.

a reply to: yuppa

Reason i was given is that we are basically hostages to the powers that be. They have asked a few times but have been denied the chance to disclose the tech to th egeneral population of earth by the ones in control.

Oh, they've asked nicely and the loving elite said nope? What a bunch of cowards, guess we don't need them anyway.

Stockholm-syndrome? Well... let 'em leave and obey a nice day then. I don't buy this anyway.

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: yuppa

Reason i was given is that we are basically hostages to the powers that be. They have asked a few times but have been denied the chance to disclose the tech to th egeneral population of earth by the ones in control.

Oh, they've asked nicely and the loving elite said nope? What a bunch of cowards, guess we don't need them anyway.

Stockholm-syndrome? Well... let 'em leave and obey a nice day then. I don't buy this anyway.

Is it cowardly to make sure the rest of humanity get a shot in space or should they be brave and everyone be screwed over?

originally posted by: PheonixReborn
Please tell me this is not Greer you are citing .

Lol, it sounds exactly like him.

The moment he said, government has already pick out someone for the disclosure, my bet was on Greer.

a reply to: oPtimistJL

Do you really believe that any of
these "hidden hand types" ever leave
ATS?

Kev

a reply to: yuppa

No one gets left behind ! NO ONE lol

It's kind of #ty to leave so many behind with the assholes who only care about greed , power and money

I think id like to make sure our supposed home planet doesnt get completely trashed by these assholes first before going off to pioneer space.

Earth is beautiful and shouldnt be ruined by one species that has a huge ego and thinks the universe revolves around them, we should sort this planet out for future generations before we go galavanting everywhere else.
The RK;'s and the 4 masters or whoever they are should get more people on their side then get the bad apples and punish them.

a reply to: sapien82

Have you ever noticed that nearly every
Religion, spiritual system or UFO "story"
leaves everyone behind or sends them
to hell except the "chosen few" who most
voraciously pass out the poisoned
cool aid to rubes?

originally posted by: AnteBellum
a reply to: iksmodnad

Disclosure will come someday but it won't be a pre-scripted event. It will either usher in a new age for humanity or end it.
Information accrued by our governments has left them with no alternative but to bury it and for good reason. AI is the only wild card I see in this game now.

Anyway the world is gearing up for war right now, worst I've seen in decades. East vs West, haves vs have nots, democry, socialism, racism, sexism, religious wars of all kind, economic failure imminent. Just name it and opposing groups are fighting about it. There is nothing but conflict at the moment and it's about to get a whole lot worse.

Instead of a tin foil hat, I'm wearing a lead one for the time being.

Don't forget about food and weapons. I posted on another person's post yesterday that I feel as though there will be a final war. It will be between the old age thinkers vs. the new age thinkers. We are about to fight for the survival of our planet, and it will be between those who want a new world of peace and technology and an old world who wants war and money. I have been stock piling ammo and food. Hope that lead hat comes with a vest!

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Yeh I've noticed that alot , it always seems to be very Clique' about who they let in and who they save.

Same thing with the Astro story , cool story bro , but seems like your just here to gloat that you are being saved and getting to go away into space and live a really cool life, seems like its all just to make us jealous like the only kid in school who had that super expensive new toy that he never lets anyone play with .

Unless they have specifically chosen them to play together

a reply to: iksmodnad

More disinfo!

This makes it look like it humans that are preventing disclosure. The "ET's"
don't want full disclosure. Full disclosure will shortly lead to exposure.
What they have been waiting for is enough lies to catch the majority.


They aren't really aliens. They are quarantined here. We are too. While we may
have the tech to leave the solar system, we will not be allowed.

It is possible that some kind of disclosure will occur in connection with the Pope's visit
in Sept He will appear before both congress and the UN.

The Jesuits have been interacting with "ET's" for a long time.

a reply to: UMayBRite!

Quarantined for what reason and by who ?

I had a dream that the earth was a prison planet to keep humans here but for what I had no clue!
Just woke up really confused and told my girlfriend and she was had nothing but questions for me which I couldn't answer
I spent the rest of the day wondering at the possibility

a reply to: sapien82

Christianity and even Buddhism are the same,
just to pick two common ones..or anything
new age.

It's universal to proclaim love and compassion
but to deliver nothing but worthless mind games.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

to the devout follower do they really get nothing in return ?
With buddhism at least people can find peace within themselves maybe even enlightenment , thing is all the personal goals you achieve through say buddhism cant really be quantified they are a personal thing , spirituality from the shamanistic sense does actually work , if we go back further to where spirituality was the only form of connection to the source it has been proven to work and humans have being do it for thousands of years befoe monotheism was even thought of !

I disagree spirituality is essentially the thing that will unite humanity and allow us to achieve great things , the trimurti is a hindu concept , in that creation maintenance and destruction unite to achieve bhrama or enlightenment.

Or in my book spirituality , science and art those three things will allow the human species to be anything we want

and they do provide me with happiness and love and understanding of everything around me