Peer Reviewed Scientific Evidence Exposes Chemtrail as Crime Against Humanity

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

Because the atmospheric conditions change minute by minute.

Ah so why don't those persistent "contrails" disappear from minute to minute, at least some of the time? Non-persistent "contrails" dissipate normally only a few hundred to a few thousand feet behind the craft that creates them. However persistent "contrails" never seem to dissipate. They spread and form a haze in the vicinity where they were created.

originally posted by: Bilk22
There was no evidence of the testing on African American males either during the Tuskegee Experiment.

there certainly was - the reports in the 1930's weer not secret at all!! - lots of people read them. But before the advent of reliable penicillin treatment of syphilis there wasn't actually an ethical issue - that came about only afterwards because the experimenters tried to deny treatment to the subjects.

And remember this was a small study - less than 500 men - nothing like the industry that would be required to support the existence of "chemtrails"!

I'm not lying and have nothing to gain by doing so. Not selling a book or anything

However if you're lying, you're committing a crime

Have a good day

I didn't say you are lying - but how about the people who made the various videos that are quoted, or the various chemtrail promoters that seem to make a living from the myth??

originally posted by: Aloysius the Gaul
Most anyone I've pointed these chemtrails out too, never gave them a second thought. Now they do

No they won't be shooting any airline pilots, but they may start to ask questions of their representatives

That's how things get done in a republic

So maybe one day we'll see this crime exposed and well let the trail lead where it may

edit on 03652Mondayk22 by Bilk22 because: (no reason given)

a reply to: Bilk22

most everyone won't be shooting pilots - no - of course not. As I said - it only takes one.

When you point out these "chemtrail" how do you identify them? Do you also point out to people the known science of contrails??

originally posted by: Aloysius the Gaul
a reply to: Bilk22

most everyone won't be shooting pilots - no - of course not. As I said - it only takes one.

When you point out these "chemtrail" how do you identify them? Do you also point out to people the known science of contrails??

Sure. I explain that as well. I let them be their own judge. They spread the word on their own. I see it as a good thing. Then they decide if the science, what they're told and their life experiences support that - or not

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: smurfy

I'm dieting. Popcorn and beer. If I skip the beer, I can have meat. Guess which way I went.

Kidding.....or am I?

Ever heard of PERFLUOROALKYL SULFONATE, PFAS or similar, LOOK IT UP.

www.nytimes.com...

Thing is Corsair00 came as close to anything about chemtrails as anybody here..if you want to hide something, you use a little bit of invention, and/or even a little bit of the truth and mix them together.
Don't tell me PFAS's and similar are not used in aircraft, while you chomp on the popcorn. That's before anyone need start on some deliberate airborne spraying programme, since the above stuff is up there already. Then do you think that nutball scientists also consider doing more stuff, that where the above doesn't even figure..you have seen the patents. Ever wonder why the likes of Dupont want to quietly walk away from Mr Sheen, and Stadis 450? blah blah......

originally posted by: Bilk22

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

Because the atmospheric conditions change minute by minute.

Ah so why don't those persistent "contrails" disappear from minute to minute, at least some of the time? Non-persistent "contrails" dissipate normally only a few hundred to a few thousand feet behind the craft that creates them. However persistent "contrails" never seem to dissipate. They spread and form a haze in the vicinity where they were created.

Persistent contrails don't disappear because they are PERSISTANT....if they were not persistent then they would be....er......not persistent!!

Sheesh - do you feel ashamed to read your own writing afterwards once you can't edit it?? I would be pretty embarrassed to be seen writing this nonsense!!

Clouds can also be persistent or non-persistent - how do you tell a chemtrail from a persistent cloud??

Persistent contrails can spread when conditions are right for exactly the same reasons other cirrus clouds spread - they are in a supersaturated atmosphere and their ice crystals are providing nucleation for the water to condense out of het atmosphere and then freeze on.

originally posted by: smurfy

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: smurfy

I'm dieting. Popcorn and beer. If I skip the beer, I can have meat. Guess which way I went.

Kidding.....or am I?

Ever heard of PERFLUOROALKYL SULFONATE, PFAS or similar, LOOK IT UP.

www.nytimes.com...

Thing is Corsair200 came as close to anything about chemtrails as anybody here..if you want to hide something, you use a little bit of invention, and/or even a little bit of the truth and mix them together.
Don't tell me PFAS's and similar are not used in aircraft, while you chomp on the popcorn. That's before anyone need start on some deliberate airborne spraying programme, since the above stuff is up there already. Then do you think that nutball scientists also consider doing more stuff, that where the above doesn't even figure..you have seen the patents. Ever wonder why the likes of Dupont want to quietly walk away from Mr Sheen, and Stadis 450? blah blah......

I have used scotchgard and similar rain repellants on aircraft - especially on windscreens - are you saying that chemtrails come from windscreens now?? What is your point??

The aviation industry (and pretty much every other industry) uses a lot of polluting materials and substances - what has that got to do with chemtrails??

a reply to: Bilk22

Really - you explain contrails?

And yet a few posts above you can't explain why contrails persist or why they sometimes spread out??

I do not think you CAN explain contrails!!

a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

No I don't feel ashamed. He said that the conditions change from minute to minute. If that is the case, then we'd not see persistent contrails or we see some that did persist beyond the flight of the craft suddenly disappear. We don't see that. We either see contrails that act as one would expect, vanishing a few hundred to a few thousand feet behind the craft or we see them linger for long periods of time, eventually creating a hazy sky in the vicinity they were created.


Edit: I have a the wiki page on my phone which I show them and ask them to read - Contrails that is

a reply to: Bilk22

That's why they're called persistent contrails. Because they persist, because the conditions are right for them to do so. They're just as normal as what you call normal contrails.

a reply to: Bilk22

They do change from minute to minute. And with persistent contrails the conditions remain similar enough so that a contrail persists and spreads. Such as when a front is moving in, and you have more humidity. The temperature may change, but the humidity level doesn't change enough that contrails stop persisting. Or sometimes you start seeing a persistent contrail, then it stops forming at all, and you have a stretch with nothing at all, then a few miles later it persists again, and you have another long trail.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Bilk22

That's why they're called persistent contrails. Because they persist, because the conditions are right for them to do so. They're just as normal as what you call normal contrails.

So "atmospheric conditions" don't "change minute to minute"? Just looking for clarification.

a reply to: Bilk22

I have a the wiki page on my phone which I show them and ask them to read

Have you read it? You never seem to mention the water from the combustion, only co2.

i started to reply,but my android went blank.anyway, the tested the RS-25 Thurs, this puppy pooped out a cloud the size ofnola. it was incredible. I will get pics next time, if possible.

a reply to: Bilk22

Yes, they change. That doesn't mean that you go from 90% humidity to 30% humidity. A drop of 5% or less in humidity, or a few degrees is still a change. Change doesn't mean that you go from persistent contrails to no contrails.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Bilk22

Yes, they change. That doesn't mean that you go from 90% humidity to 30% humidity. A drop of 5% or less in humidity, or a few degrees is still a change. Change doesn't mean that you go from persistent contrails to no contrails.

I'm trying to learn here So the humidity at say 30k ft can be 90%? What elevation do contrails cease to form? What temperature and humidity level is required for them to form? Obviously there are aviation weather sources that would give the temperatures, humidity levels and wind speeds in real time or near real time. Where does one find those? I also understand there are apps and such that can display flights in near real time as well. One can then easily make charts with all the data to see if the weather conditions as well as the flights all match up I often have nothing better to do. Maybe I found a new hobby

originally posted by: Aloysius the Gaul



I have used scotchgard and similar rain repellants on aircraft - especially on windscreens - are you saying that chemtrails come from windscreens now??

What is your point??

The aviation industry (and pretty much every other industry) uses a lot of polluting materials and substances - what has that got to do with chemtrails??

Well, I was actually talking to the other more focussed, 'toon' he's the popcorn eater.

originally posted by: Bilk22

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Bilk22

That's why they're called persistent contrails. Because they persist, because the conditions are right for them to do so. They're just as normal as what you call normal contrails.

So "atmospheric conditions" don't "change minute to minute"? Just looking for clarification.

they can change "minute to minute" - but they also change "mile to mile" - an aircraft cruising at 600mph (for ease of maths) is doing 10 miles a minute - 1 mile every 6 seconds - a section of air that is supersaturated that is 10 miles wide is not small - but it only takes 1 minute to cross, and is then subject to whatever conditions are changing at that altitude such as winds and updraughts and downdraughts.

The atmosphere is not in a single throughout, and usually you simply cannot see what is happening with it.

originally posted by: Bilk22
a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Nah, YT isn't really necessary. These are the chemtrails I saw with my own eyes.

Did your own eyes see the other clouds that were up there?

Hint - you can tell which days they're going to "spray chemtrails". Just look for cirrus and cirrocumulus in the sky. When you have both, it's "chemtrail spraying" time.