Hero SAS sniper saves father and eight-year-old son from being beheaded by ISIS maniac

This article is completely fabricated from beginning to end. I don't know why people are even debating it.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: Kapusta

I'm sure with a little effort you can find it.

Been looking for a list of standards for SAS snipers... Don't seem to be any. Or I'm not looking in the right places. Not surprising actually...Google and I, not a good relationship most times. I wonder if they even publish that? I've found excerpts from books that tell of 600 yard testing...but that is about it.

If you are meaning distance, what about that guy aptly named Furlong with a confirmed killing at 1.5 miles, Afghanistan I think. Never mind, the tech is good, and a pro knows how to use these things, so this debate about action/reaction, while not completely moot on it's own, has no bearing if the story has been cooked up in an office.
I haven't bought papers for years because of so much crap in them, but now I realise perhaps this wrong, for this reason, has this online story been carried into print? I don't know since I don't buy papers. I looked for other papers carrying the story, and it was first online by The Daily Mirror, then the Express Ad Verbatim. I don't find so far any other reports online other than paste and copy sites. So now I'll be a mug and go and buy a paper just to see how they compare with the 'going to press' version..after all, that's what papers want you to do, buy a paper!

a reply to: ken10

Okay chief. You clearly know more about combat and shooting than I do. I can only defer to your clearly expert analysis.

a reply to: Kapusta

The standard? It's always been my understanding, I could be wrong on this I freely admit, that it starts at five hundred, and goes out from there. It could be lower than that, but five hundred is what memory tells me.

Carlos Hathcock... I was twelve, I think. It was an NRA convention type delio, not NRA but something like. This would be @1975 or 1976, thereabouts. So it's been a while.

He shook my hand, asked me how I was. I, knowing who he was, and having read some of the stories about him, was awestruck...

He was an utter and complete gentleman, but there was steel underneath, and not far underneath. Even more so than my dad, who's also been there done that.

I couldn't define it if I had a hundred years to do so. Haven't the words. I wish I'd been older, so I could maybe tell it better...but he impressed me, even as a brat of a pre-teen boy.

He was a hunter. His eyes...at first glance, seemed lazy almost lackadasical, but they were keen, missed nothing around him. As I say, a hunter. After all, he'd hunted the most dangerous game in the world. Other men, and lived to tell the tale.

Gentleman. Hunter. Killer. All rolled into one very, to that 12 year old boy, impressive package. Sorry that's not much of a tale... I'm fairly sure, if I'd met him today, I'd be just as impressed.

Here is a nice little video on SAS snipers.

a reply to: seagull

thanks for sharing that .

One thing about Carlos that always stuck with me is that he seems to have no signs of guilt for anything he did.

Not that he should ,but naturally you would think one would ,over time become consumed by it for what ever reasons

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: ken10

Okay chief. You clearly know more about combat and shooting than I do. I can only defer to your clearly expert analysis.

Just logical thinking, and the the number one rule... don't believe a word the papers say

a reply to: smurfy

I was discussing training standards.

I know of Furlongs shot...boggles the mind. There have been others just as impressive.

a reply to: Kapusta

Who knows what the night brought him though...? I'm sure he thought about it.

He did what he had to do to protect his fellow Marines. I think he'd probably have shouldered an immense load of guilt to make sure his brothers got home.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: smurfy

I was discussing training standards.

I know of Furlongs shot...boggles the mind. There have been others just as impressive.

Craig Harrison scored a kill from more than 2,700 yards. He then took out the gunner's number two and their weapon.

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: boymonkey74

Well well, you got us there but I can out drink you anyday and impress women with my cowboy antics :p

Good shot, good kill, Gods speed

"DO NOT drink with the British troops
DO NOT gamble with the British troops
DO NOT fight with the British troops

YOU WILL lose"

I've just came back from a weekend festival, drank 3 litres of whiskey, unconfirmed number of cans of cider, had some absinthe Friday night....your argument is invalid.

I'm gonna puke.

ETA: I've fired the L96A1, great rifle, it was the TA upgrade after the LE Number 8
2nd ETA: Just puked, yay, I'm gonna sing my phone ringtone to you all, 'cos I can....

Who do you think you are kidding Mr. Hitler?
If you think we're on the run,
We are the boys who will stop your little game.
We are the boys who will make you think again.
'Cus who do you think you are kidding Mr. Hitler?
If you think old England's done?

Mr. Brown goes off to town
On the 8:21.
But he comes home each evening
And he's ready with his gun.

So watch out Mr. Hitler
You have met your match in us.
If you think you can push us
We're afraid you've missed the bus.

so who do you think you are kidding Mr. Hitler?
If you think old England's done!

I'm going back to bed to watch Stargate.

a reply to: Kapusta

Actually the SAS could be using that new guided ammo they came out with from DARPA

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: Kapusta

Actually the SAS could be using that new guided ammo they came out with from DARPA

We can only go off what the news link presented , It said nothing about guided ammo ....


Besides It's been pointed out that the news link is a sketchy source .

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: Zcustosmorum

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Zcustosmorum
a reply to: hounddoghowlie

Haha, despite the fact this is more evidence of unsanctioned British meddling in the M.E., I would suggest it's the least they can do seeing as their masters created the ISIS mess in the first place.

For every 2 that have been saved, there's thousands who weren't so lucky or at least, thousands who wouldn't have needed saved but for the sheer incompetency & greed of western powers.

Unsanctioned?

We are at war! ISIS declared war on us!

The tories are operating the military in Syria without even asking parliament, it's unsanctioned.

If your avatar location thingy is to be believed, you had your chance to break away. Should have taken it I suppose.

Know it only too well, should've happened & yes, I am bitter it didn't happen haha

a reply to: Kapusta

Why do i feel like this story is a made up piece of sensational BS?

Can't say for sure if it's totally fabricated but it's definitely written in a pro-troop type way, a classic media method of trying to get the public onside for war basically, I notice it has worked on some of the peeps on this thread also

Sounds like a good clean kill. I wish there were more good snipers watching our backs.

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

originally posted by: Kapusta

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: Kapusta

Actually the SAS could be using that new guided ammo they came out with from DARPA

We can only go off what the news link presented , It said nothing about guided ammo ....


Besides It's been pointed out that the news link is a sketchy source .

Wait wait i minute i seem to remember a scope with a built in targeting computer that can make 1 thousand yard plus shot accurately first shot every time. Its not th eguided bullet though.

originally posted by: ken10
a reply to: Shamrock6

Oh come on, the time it takes for the sniper to accurately acquire his next target after his first shot plus the time it takes for the bullet to hit its target....now times that by two for the two "Henchmen" lol.....You really think there would be a target there ?

And Underestimate your enemy at your peril

Umm depending on where they are standing it might take a second for a great sniper to aquire the next target. ANd until you been fired at by a sniper you dont have the experience to say what someone else will do. Some soldiers go into split second shock seeing their buddy who was joking with them a second agos brains on the wall behind him.
Remember these are not well trained fighters no mater how "battle hardened"
As for killing a russian brigade seeing as how all o f them are conscripts and not trained more than to hold a gun(unless they have the aptitude to get headhunted by spec forces) I d say even the mexican army could beat them.

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

Even though I hate violence, I have a lot of respect for snipers' skill. A headshot from 1km away in the middle of a tense situation like that? Well done, mate. And for a genuinely good cause nonetheless. Hard to say anything bad about this story.

The SAS marksman, using a .50 calibre sniper rifle fitted with a silencer, killed the executioner just in time. The source added: "The ISIS thug who was about to decapitate the father was shot in the head and collapsed. "Everyone just stared in confusion. The sniper then dispatched the two henchmen with single shots – three kills with three bullets.

They certainly don't call them 'special' forces for nothing.

I have no problem with the story that a one shot hit at 1000 meters.

At 1000 yards 1 MOA= 10.47 inches.

1 meter = 1.09361 yards

I never had any problem hitting a 12 inch bulleye at 1000 yards with my national match M1A with a ART scope and i am just a old navy sailor and Vietnam vet.

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie

ISIS militants had decreed that the little boy and his father must die after branding them "infidels" because they refused to denounce their faith. They were just seconds from death when the hero sniper intervened to stop the barbaric killing in the Syrian desert.
The pair were part of the minority Shia sect of Islam which ISIS considers to be heretical.
Hero SAS sniper saves father and eight-year-old son from being beheaded by ISIS maniac

great shootin!


further down in the in the article it says that isis, hasn't returned. afraid of being reached out to and touched.

Obama will soon deem him a terrorists for killing members of his beloved ISIS army. Good to see someone cares enough to do something about the atrocities going on over there.