Hero SAS sniper saves father and eight-year-old son from being beheaded by ISIS maniac

a reply to: boymonkey74

Whoah, Stop.

You are defending sensationalist tabloid paper selling rubbish....stop and think of the logistics.

a reply to: Kapusta
I myself have taken down deer on the move at 500 (maybe 600) yards with a single shot to the heart with my modded .308 .Could I take down a target at 1000 yards with that type of shot? I am going to say no.So yes , they are in their way above mortal. They have a job to do , and they do it well.


to the SAS and all Special Forces in the world. Keep playing whack a mole with the bad guys

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein

originally posted by: Kapusta
a reply to: seagull


I don't care how good of s shot anyone is . Who is going to risk a head shot at 1000 yard from a head that is moving around rather than take a body shot ?

We are not talking 100 yards , we are talking 1000 yards here . with element factors at play .

Quick answer....A poor marksman...Really! NO marksman at 1,000 with wind/suppressor factors would take a headshot at that distance.....Unless they got lucky....No smart marksman takes a headshot at that distance with those factors, NO WAY!!!

ETA: Precipitation....Wind...Barometric pressure and much more is needed to be calculated from that distance....Not to mention the time it takes the bullet to reach the target....NO WAY!!!

These are not your normal line troops.

These snipers would be taken from only the best snipers in the british army then trained to near death in conditions that would kill you or me.

As seagull said, there are not your normal mortal humans.

I think it's time for you to put away your Commando books and get the head down..

If it was a commando book they would retire and live happy ever after.

Chances are in the next year a op will go wrong and one of more of these guys in the op will end up dead.

No one can get exact figures but its estimated a good many dont get to claim there retirement.

Price you pay for being the ultimate dog of War.

a reply to: ken10

And you are belittling these guys who do the Job.
The blooming SAS dude.
I hate war but If these guys take out those monsters kudos to them.

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Kapusta
I myself have taken down deer on the move at 500 (maybe 600) yards with a single shot to the heart with my modded .308 .Could I take down a target at 1000 yards with that type of shot? I am going to say no.So yes , they are in their way above mortal. They have a job to do , and they do it well.


to the SAS and all Special Forces in the world. Keep playing whack a mole with the bad guys

lol ok worship your mythical tabloid heroic story

a reply to: boymonkey74

I'm not belittling anyone, there are lots of accounts of snipers taking people out at those distances and further....BUT show me one account of a sniper killing three out of three moving targets at a thousand metres, bearing in mind after the first shot hits and the body hits the deck the other targets are gonna be looking for cover pretty sharpish.

a reply to: Chrisfishenstein

again for those that don't read. from manufacturer of the one brand of them.

Silencer or Suppressor? What's the difference?

The terms "silencer" and "suppressor" are both correct. Most people within the industry prefer the term "suppressor" because it is more technically correct in that a suppressor does not actually silence a firearm but suppresses the noise some amount. That said, the legal term as used by BATFE to classify these weapons is "silencer". You may also hear people refer to suppressors by the slang term "cans".
GEMTECH

a reply to: Kapusta

I'm sure with a little effort you can find it.

Been looking for a list of standards for SAS snipers... Don't seem to be any. Or I'm not looking in the right places. Not surprising actually...Google and I, not a good relationship most times. I wonder if they even publish that? I've found excerpts from books that tell of 600 yard testing...but that is about it.

Odd, now that I think on it.

Gods? No. Not gods. A cut above? Yes. Do I respect them, and their proven abilities? That, too.

Meet an active duty SAS/Seal, and I'm fairly certain you'll soon agree. No braggadocio. No I'm the best talk. They don't have to talk the talk. They've proven themselves to the only ones whose opinion matters, each other. If we agree? Of course they'll accept it.

a reply to: ken10

Not necessarily. At that range, the likely first response of anybody is going to be "what the hell happened to Abdul?" And THEN try to find cover.

That's one of the benefits to shooting somebody a long way out: his homies often times don't immediately understand what's happening since he likely hit the ground before they heard the shot.

a reply to: seagull

perfect ! maybe you can elaborate in your own words about this standard shot ?

Also tell me more about your interaction with Carlos Hathcock.

I am curious .

a reply to: Shamrock6

Well since we are not talking about innocent civvies going about their daily business in a safe country, but are soldiers on a battlefield...I'm pretty sure when Abdul hit the floor they knew exactly what was occurring lol

originally posted by: ken10
a reply to: Shamrock6

Well since we are not talking about innocent civvies going about their daily business in a safe country, but are soldiers on a battlefield...I'm pretty sure when Abdul hit the floor they knew exactly what was occurring lol

Abdul didn't just hit the ground ....His head exploded !

.50 to the head ......He Gone!

Any bloke on the ground at 1000m would be aiming centre mass. End of. If he hit him in the head it's pot luck. Any bloke on the ground wouldn't fire a high velocity round in to a crowd of enemy and civilian pax either.

I'm going to go ahead and call bull# on this one.

originally posted by: ken10
a reply to: Shamrock6

Well since we are not talking about innocent civvies going about their daily business in a safe country, but are soldiers on a battlefield...I'm pretty sure when Abdul hit the floor they knew exactly what was occurring lol

And we are talking untrained jihadis here that are not the brightest bulbs.

Like four professional football players going up against a team of 5 year olds.....

originally posted by: sg1642
Any bloke on the ground at 1000m would be aiming centre mass. End of. If he hit him in the head it's pot luck. Any bloke on the ground wouldn't fire a high velocity round in to a crowd of enemy and civilian pax either.

I'm going to go ahead and call bull# on this one.

Thanks Mate I fully agree !

a reply to: ken10

No, we're talking about ISIL thugs who just went from being in total control of a situation to very suddenly not being in control anymore. Ergo, they will hesitate. Perhaps only for a moment, but they will hesitate.

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: ken10

No, we're talking about ISIL thugs who just went from being in total control of a situation to very suddenly not being in control anymore. Ergo, they will hesitate. Perhaps only for a moment, but they will hesitate.

Exactly most these POS are used to killing unarmed civilians.

To encounter four of the best soldiers NATO has to offer is going to be a cold hard pants wetting shock for them.

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: ken10
a reply to: Shamrock6

Well since we are not talking about innocent civvies going about their daily business in a safe country, but are soldiers on a battlefield...I'm pretty sure when Abdul hit the floor they knew exactly what was occurring lol

And we are talking untrained jihadis here that are not the brightest bulbs.

Like four professional football players going up against a team of 5 year olds.....

I wouldn't say that , these guys are war hardened , Raised in war zones . They are NOT dealing with armatures by no means.

I watched a video of about 30 Mujahadeen in chechnya take out a whole Russian army column. Made quick work with no causalities. The leaders who lead the attack were seasoned fighters from Afgan.


So make no mistake these dudes are very much dangerous and skilled in the art of warfare

a reply to: Shamrock6

Oh come on, the time it takes for the sniper to accurately acquire his next target after his first shot plus the time it takes for the bullet to hit its target....now times that by two for the two "Henchmen" lol.....You really think there would be a target there ?

And Underestimate your enemy at your peril

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: ken10

No, we're talking about ISIL thugs who just went from being in total control of a situation to very suddenly not being in control anymore. Ergo, they will hesitate. Perhaps only for a moment, but they will hesitate.

Exactly most these POS are used to killing unarmed civilians.

To encounter four of the best soldiers NATO has to offer is going to be a cold hard pants wetting shock for them.

Glorify much ?

Never underestimate your enemy .