Has S4 finally been found?

a reply to: gariac

Did all your nights spent looking elsewhere net you anything to prove?
Oh yea, that's why you crawl an antiquated conspiracy site daily and are generally rude to anyone you disagree with. Not even hoping to find the truth or engage in others plights. Just flexing your posting bravato(I'm being very generous) to get some type of sad sick thrill to give meaning where none else lies. At least here you feel important right? I think they have a name for this, but it escapes me right now. . .

Anyway, you should go over to a Dulce thread next and share your insight, maybe take a trip. Just a word of advice before planning, the Dulce base was never located in Dulce!

a reply to: FosterVS

your post junking lazar & lear is probably on the money, but knapp???, ive been researching the ufo topic for 7 years and find
him a pretty straight guy.

a reply to: AnteBellum

I know of several sensitive locations here in the UK, many underground and many that I've visited myself. Every single one of them can be seen from Google Earth, perhaps not obviously but once you know a location is there it's very easy to see the evidence of an installation from GE, even if it's still classified.

Even when a facility is underneath an existing facility evidence can be seen if you know it's there. Check out the Greenbrier bunker, site-r, Burlington etc.

With that in mind antebellum, just post a couple of co-ordinates up, don't say what's there and why you know. We can then check it out, and I'm sure Gariac would be happy to eat his Stetson

Or, U2U me with said info and I'll post it as a 'look what i found on GE' post. I'm not scared of being vilified or banned.

Cheers
Robbie

a reply to: AnteBellum

Do you even know who you are talking to? Only the most gullible of fools would believe the tripe you are spewing.

a reply to: BlackDog10

Ok, I'll bite, "Who am I talking to?"

Could it be you are, the Lord of the Wasteland? An alien engineer working for the army? How about Lord Zed the destroyer of Worlds? Obama?
Or maybe your just some reasercher who gets all there info from websites and TV shows and then calls themself an expert.

Pretty hard to decide with the amount of detail you've provided. I'll just guess, 'nobody important' until proven otherwise.

a reply to: AnteBellum

I'm referring to gariac, not myself

a reply to: BlackDog10

If he has information I'm not aware of I'd love to hear it for I have several dozens of unanswered questions pertaining to the ordeal I went through.

So far I've talked to 3 in five years that had some level of access to these sites and none of us have all or really any of the answers, only questions, lots of them.
So if garlic has some unpubicised information as to this topic please tell him to come and share it, doesn't even have to be done here in this forum.

So far all he's been is dismissive without question, which is typical for most members with a personal bias or agenda.
Sad everyone here now wants to be a preacher to truth because they climbed up a hill and looked at group of buildings from 25 miles away, read a book or has cable tv. As for why I'm here now it seems to just waste my time.

a reply to: AnteBellum

I've been cable free since 1986. ;-)

Has it occurred to you that there is more to do around the range than just visual observation?

a reply to: gariac

Since all the systems I saw on plan were mainly stand alone, hard wired and independant I still don't see what use it would have. Actually everything was independant, from air filtration to water, all the way to computing, telecom, ac/heating, and even yes the crazy latrines spec'ed. The cisterns created housed free standing structures sitting on isolation springs grounded by material that also protected them from emp's locally. But these shallow subsurface locations only seemed like staging areas of some type.

The drawing set was in autocad looked normal but certain sensitive pages had no titleblocks along with the revision set that joined the public to private. Basically with certain pages removed you had an ordinary building set of a site. Add the extra addendum set and revision set and a whole new place appeares.

I would love to know who and how they dug in the hardest soil in the USA but I don't know. I would love to tell you the systems they used but I don't know. I would love to know how certain materials were shipped, unloaded, cataloged, and segragated on site but I don't know. I would love to know how they supplied enough fresh air, water and electricity to the network but I don't know. I would love to know how they can track individuals underground(which most believe is impossible) but again I don't know. Most of all I would love to know what agency in DC this all fell under, someone had to order this and allocate billions but ?

All I have is a company name from a business that was based and run in Canada(all female upper management, they made it a point to seem like a big deal for some reason?) and owned by a party in India. That and my story along with the 2 others who I met there and still keep in touch with is all I have. And it used to be 5 others.

We need people like you looking and listening in the places they don't expect people to know about. There is a map of this underground system floating around the internet, it is accurate but only to general location and hierarchy. All the places indicated when 'scaled to a real map' are in the wrong area. I assume they used known bases as way points but the rest is wrong. Probably why it's still floating around out in cyberspace.

You seem interested enough in all this stuff to do what I can't. I moved back home to NJ to get my kids away from that hell once we(the 6) were all layed off.
Most Navajo in the greater Gallup, NM area were hired to help build this 'infrastructure' for them, on their land but were highly unreliable. Deadlines were failing and 'temps' as myself were brought in. I was hired as a PM once I passed the security clearance and I still never saw the completed project except through pictures from another who lives in Arizona and went back.

You can dismiss everything I've just written if you want but don't dismiss the fact that you aren't looking for the same thing I am, answers!

Please, go look in the right spots now.

a reply to: AnteBellum

You seem very keen to string us all along and to want us to believe you, yet you give absolutely zero information. Just a couple of co-ordinates on a pm, that's all I'm asking.

If there is a map floating around in public (the internet) and it's commonly accessible then link to it. There's no harm in that. Also, there is no harm in linking to a private contractor. Even a person working on a top secret project is allowed to say which parent organisation they worked for, obviously not the details of the program. For instance, I could say that between 2012 and 2014 I worked on a C4I project for Qinetiq based at Boscombe Down and post it on linked in and my CV without upsetting anyone.

Otherwise, please stop insulting trusted and valuable contributors to this community.

Cheers
Robbie

a reply to: stratsys-sws

I can't link things from a cell phone. Wish ATS would fix that. Please complain, I have.

As for coordinates I don't have them. Just the 1 location I worked on in Gallup in the northern Navajo reservation is all I can vouch for.

I am not going to disclose who I worked for YET for personal reasons related to future clientele. Basically money.

As for coordinates I was told the adjoining hub was 30 miles west of Dulce in some type of extraction farm disguised as something common. This is an air exchange for the tunnel to the actual 'Dulce' base located in the adjacent area.

And YOU are the one insulting trusted and valuable contributors to this community. You are blindly doing what most do best here now and it's just the reason the BEST contributors are now on another private site contributing there.

The only reason I'm here is to fish occasionally, not to amuse or distract the ignorant. Don't want to believe then good go back to Nellis.

a reply to: AnteBellum

Still nothing. Making claims as big as you are requires solid proof, not just anecdotes.

a reply to: BlackDog10

Everything I'm willing to share is now in this thread. There is no such thing as 'proof' on the internet so we are at an impasse.

Do with the information as you see fit or ignore it all together.

Btw, why don't you ask yourself why I would do this after 5 years of being here at ats. 3,000 flags numberous stars, lots of applause and thousands of friends and comments later.
Yup, all of a sudden I went crazy and wanted to have fun with the S4 nerds. Maybe you should dwell on this question more, why would I do this now?

a reply to: AnteBellum

There is such a thing as proof on the internet, you clearly don't have any because it's all made up.

a reply to: BlackDog10

And you say your not gullible!

Tv, video, pictures, stories, news, even people are all subject to manipulation and bias through use of the internet and its predecessor, mass media.
You should read up on Western commercialism vs. Eastern Propaganda and its global hold over 'truth' which is in the middle somewhere.

I don't fully believe anything 100% unless I've seen it with my own 2 eyes. Your investment of time into the futility of claiming others stories false without due diligence speaks volumes.

a reply to: AnteBellum

Once again you're just making baseless claims, this time about myself.

originally posted by: AnteBellum
a reply to: BlackDog10

Btw, why don't you ask yourself why I would do this after 5 years of being here at ats. 3,000 flags numberous stars, lots of applause and thousands of friends and comments later. Yup, all of a sudden I went crazy and wanted to have fun with the S4 nerds. Maybe you should dwell on this question more, why would I do this now?

Sounds like someone is wasting far too much time on this "antiquated conspiracy site".

You know - you sound awful familiar to me. The interwebs is a big place, and I've been theroux a lot of it.

originally posted by: FosterVS
Sounds like someone is wasting far too much time on this "antiquated conspiracy site".

Your absolutely right!

a reply to: BlackDog10

It's not baseless given your attitude. You dismiss away everything with the wave a keyboard, there is a word for this.

And I was never trying to prove anything to you or anyone else, I don't need to - I was there. I was merely telling my experience. As for your belief in me why do I care, your a liitle title on a little website. I can even turn you off and make you go away.

On the other hand you seem to have thrown quite a bit of an emotional investment into dismissing claims without even so much as trying to disect them further. If you really wanted to prove me wrong you would have asked QUESTIONS.

Too late now your cover is blown, that is why I can only assume your one of those. I know times are tough but I hope the money serves you well.

a reply to: AnteBellum

I find it amusing that you think you are so important that supposed government agents seek to discredit you.