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originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: Swills
One extremist went unnoticed, and?
He is the only one discussed because he was the founding father of ISIS, but you truly think there were no extremist in Iraq during Sadam's reign.
Libya is another perfect example of the west toppling a regime where terrorists filled the void.
When the leader of a country admits to being part of a terrorist act...it already is filled with terrorists.
Cheney knew it back in the early 1990's. He knew exactly what would happen if we removed Saddam and here we are. The picture doesn't get any clearer than that but feel free to blame anyone but the aggressors. Embrace the ignorance and we shall agree to completely disagree.
Except as you said it wasn't until we invaded Iraq that they started...except it was started before that and not because the US took Hussein out of power.
And yet you blame the US for ISIS when it is well known how they became the entity they are today...But I see if someone doesn't agree that the US is behind ISIS they are embracing ignorance...truly amazing.
Your a fool if you think the invasion of Iraq made the world a safer place!
Iraq was not perfect under saddam, it was a crap hole. But the invasion certainly made it worse, a lot worse.
Lol
If Libya asked for help
You are talking about their puppet government formed after NATO bombing
originally posted by: Britguy
So we aided, funded, armed Islamic Jihadists to remove Gadaffi, destroying the entire country in the process, and now we need to send in troops to fight those same Islamic Jihadists?
I swear the people in power making these decisions have very large stock portfolios in the arms industry and are complete psychopaths. The very same people that created the problem now say we must send our own citizens over there to fix things again. How about someone in the military actually grows a pair and airdrops Cameron and all the others who made this mess in the first place right into the middle of Tripoli?
many of those now fleeing across the Med are a direct result of the wars we have instigated in their own countries, but never let a manufactured opportunity go to waste. Hell, if a few grunts on the ground get offed, it's a small price to pay for profits.
originally posted by: MrSpad
What we have in Libya is not good, although it is slowly moving that way but, it better than if we had done nothing.
originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: buster2010
Except you can blame the west for the creation of ISIS.
No those who think ISIS is a conspiracy believe that...those who know don't.
The west moved in and totally destabilized the region they helped to start a civil war in Syria and removed Saddam Hussein from power this led to the creation of ISIS.
I forgot it's all the US fault because we are to blame for the worlds problems...have you ever thought those problems were always there they just used this to become more of the problem.
Had it not been for these actions ISIS would have never gained the power they have now. Reagan was right when he said we don't understand the politics of that region.
Reagan was right, but that doesn't prove the US was behind ISIS and we are the reason they are there...that would be a bit naive to think that.
originally posted by: BlubberyConspiracy
It's just so that they comply with WTO and IMF standards...
Just like Ghadaffi was removed for speaking about making his own currency.
ISIS is just the elite's tool.
Are you totally ignorant of history? The west went in and killed the people that kept groups like ISIS from even starting.
originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: buster2010
Are you totally ignorant of history? The west went in and killed the people that kept groups like ISIS from even starting.
Except those groups survived in those countries before we went into them, or are you saying they didn't and just popped up when we went into them?
Groups like ISIS have been around...maybe not as bold and big as they are now...but they have been around.
And history shows that...are you that ignorant of history?
originally posted by: crazyewok
I hate war..............
I was 100% against Iraq, Libya bombing and opposed Syria.....
But unfortunately I support this..... ISIS has to be annihilated. The war was already started by them and they are a threat to the UK and our allies.
Good luck to the troops and the friends I have that will be deployed. Good shooting and kill as many of the ISIS bastards as you can