Armed 'citizen guards' at US military offices told to stand down

Armed 'citizen guards' at US military offices told to stand down, Pentagon says it can handle security after Tennessee shooting

The Pentagon has asked that concerned armed citizens not stand guard at military recruiting offices, saying it can handle security on its own after a shooting rampage.

Prompted by shootings at military facilities in the US, Americans have started showing up at military recruiting offices to stand guard with handguns and rifles.

An armed civilian guarding a recruitment centre in Ohio accidently discharged his rifle on Thursday, The Columbus Dispatch reported.

abc.net.au

Seriously, what a goose! This dude rocks up (probably half drunk, no doubt) with his gun looking to protect a military office, then proceeds to 'accidentally' fire a round off in public.

This genius was obviously attempting to make a statement on how his right to bear arms protects the public, yet has achieved nothing but prove how important it is to have stricter gun regulations.

His made himself the number one poster boy for stricter gun regulations.

What else can you do but scratch your head and wonder about the mental capacity of these people? The incompetence of some of these 'right to arms' advocates is nothing short than surreal.

lol x 1000 times over.

(probably half drunk, no doubt)

You've proof of this, of course... Or is it just your little add on to further "prove" your point?

An idiot that shouldn't have access to a gun? In America?? Fake shock??!

a reply to: seagull

Yeah fair enough, the drunk part is pure assumption. But come on... not even the most passionate gun rights advocate can deny it takes an extreme kind of incompetence to 'accidentally' discharge a round in public.

I guess anytime there is a crime by a black male youth they are the poster boy for young black male criminals

Anytime a Muslim tries an attack they are the poster boy for all Muslims being jihadist

The weather underground members represent that all progressive communists are crazies trying to overthrow the government with bombs

Etc etc.

You don't actually consider yourself an open minded free thinking intellectual do you????

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Now that I'll not argue. But to prove your point, you really didn't need to embellish.

Accidents happen. Which is why, you keep your finger off the trigger until such time as you're ready to shoot.

So, yeah, he was stupid. As such, hardly an exemplar of most gun owners, regardless of how fervently they support the 2nd amendment.

The reason we have these guys standing guard to begin with is because the military can't be trusted to do it, and that's because they kill innocent people everywhere they go armed. Did it really have to be said that unqualified people shouldn't be trusted to do something that we won't even risk with military NCOs whose training is equivalent in time and cost to a university degree? Hell if I had my way we'd put shock collars on military personnel while state side. I saw my own Marine recruiter go after a bum with his saber- he had to be disarmed and dragged back into the office by his subordinates. Why does a marine need a saber on a bum? Cause getting your ass beat in your dress blues is scarier than taking a life to these weapons fetishists.

My basic theory is that if you don't feel safe without a gun, you're not safe with a gun- your just shifting the danger to the strangers you unreasonably fear instead of accepting that your own life will always be dangerous.

originally posted by: Reallyfolks
You don't actually consider yourself an open minded free thinking intellectual do you????

Well.... the intellectual element comes down to personal perspective, I suppose.

But can you honestly tell me you support a person having access to firearms when there not even capable of handling one without accidentally discharging it in public.... lol

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Far from troubling, this looks like something very close to a "well regulated militia" to my eyes.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

No, I also don't support attempting to try and bundle anyone who supports gun rights in the same light or all whites, minorities, women , men, religious , non religious, democrats or republicans either. There are good and bad, loving, non loving , dumb and smart in all walks of life. Until you see that and quit this grouping everyone who does something like this as a poster boy for an entire group ( in this case people who support gun rights) you are the problem and always will be. Just like people who try and fit anyone in any other group I mentioned

a reply to: Reallyfolks

I don't believe I actually did attempt to group anyone together. I'm just pointing out that this guy made a complete fool of himself and did a huge injustice for people who advocate 'everyone' having the right to bear arms, even without any formal training.

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
This genius was obviously attempting to make a statement on how his right to bear arms protects the public, yet has achieved nothing but prove how important it is to have stricter gun regulations.

He didn't prove that it's important to have strict gun regulations. All he proved is that firearm education is essential and is something that each firearm owner should voluntarily sign up for...

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Whatever makes you comfortable

originally posted by: The Vagabond
My basic theory is that if you don't feel safe without a gun, you're not safe with a gun ---- your just shifting the danger to the strangers (you unreasonably fear) instead of accepting that your own life will always be dangerous.

Yep, that about says it all.

I knew two different guys who didn't feel safe without a gun.
One was a pro-war conservative, the other a pro-war liberal.
Both were fear-driven and as stupid as they were dangerous.
That is what fear does to people.

My basic theory is that IF you need a gun, then go kill a man
who has one. Upgrade your knife for his gun. That's called war.
However, short of war, solve your problems using your fists.
Better yet, just use your brain.

a reply to: wasaka

Thunder dome? Two men enter one man leaves?

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: seagull

Yeah fair enough, the drunk part is pure assumption. But come on... not even the most passionate gun rights advocate can deny it takes an extreme kind of incompetence to 'accidentally' discharge a round in public.

Do people cut themselves with knives or have car accidents. The religion/cult of the anti-gun look for any opening to make their points or push the agenda. The more I see the more I think it is a religion/cult of sorts. Because it is ideology not fact driven and believers push the cause every chance they get. Fear is the main motivating factor just like many other religions/cults. And they try and sway the peoples minds with assumptions put forward as fact like your little comment about them being drunk...............



Bottom line if it walk like a duck and quakes like a duck.............

If I was a recruiter I would not want a bunch of poorly trained wannabe militia types sitting outside my office.

The military is capable of supplying their own armed sentries if needed.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

But can you honestly tell me you support a person having access to firearms when there not even capable of handling one without accidentally discharging it in public

Accidental discharges do happen from time to time. I've witnessed it several times and it usually happens when someone is taking their firearm out of a holster.

That being said, I wish more people were properly trained, but that doesn't matter. We have 2nd amendment rights and no matter how many idiots out there have firearms, we will always have that right.

a reply to: The Vagabond

has to be the most long winded bunch of Partisan BS ive read all day long....

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
This genius was obviously attempting to make a statement on how his right to bear arms protects the public, yet has achieved nothing but prove how important it is to have stricter gun regulations.

He didn't prove that it's important to have strict gun regulations. All he proved is that firearm education is essential and is something that each firearm owner should be made to sign up for...

There. fixed that for you.