Another Black Female (Kindra Chapman) Dies In Custody Hours After Being Booked

a reply to: pavil
Assuming that was even looked into........

originally posted by: pavil

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord

originally posted by: TKDRL
a reply to: bm2112

Her own family says that is a suicide. I am not surprised, simply because it would be very difficult to kill someone by hanging them with a bed sheet.

Not when they weight 100 pounds soaking wet. Don't gotta hang them with a bedsheet anyways, just gotta strangle them with something not so obviously different than a bed sheet, then hang them by the bed sheet afterwards to cover it up.

Exactly choking someone to death by strangulation could be covered up by saying they hung themselves. I think it should be investigated. An autopsy should be done by an independant party.

No it wouldn't. There would be markings, different breaking of bones, evidence of struggle, fibers on the hands ect. Numerous things would be different.

She could have been choked to death with a collar of some sort, not necessarily done by hand, but signs of a struggle should be looked into. . . .

Sure she could have found a way to hang herself in prison but its highly unlikely in my opinion.

How many young teen cute girls hang themselves right after they were arrested and have yet to be even sentenced? For petty theft as well.

There are a few motives I can think of, dead people can tell no tales would be the first, she was pretty and could have been molested or raped could be a second, she may have not obeyed what the cops wanted her to do so they could have gotten rough with her.

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord

originally posted by: pavil

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord

originally posted by: TKDRL
a reply to: bm2112

Her own family says that is a suicide. I am not surprised, simply because it would be very difficult to kill someone by hanging them with a bed sheet.

Not when they weight 100 pounds soaking wet. Don't gotta hang them with a bedsheet anyways, just gotta strangle them with something not so obviously different than a bed sheet, then hang them by the bed sheet afterwards to cover it up.

Exactly choking someone to death by strangulation could be covered up by saying they hung themselves. I think it should be investigated. An autopsy should be done by an independant party.

No it wouldn't. There would be markings, different breaking of bones, evidence of struggle, fibers on the hands ect. Numerous things would be different.

She could have been choked to death with a collar of some sort, not necessarily done by hand, but signs of a struggle should be looked into. . . .

Sure she could have found a way to hang herself in prison but its highly unlikely in my opinion.

How many young teen cute girls hang themselves right after they were arrested and have yet to be even sentenced? For petty theft as well.

There are a few motives I can think of, dead people can tell no tales would be the first, she was pretty and could have been molested or raped could be a second, she may have not obeyed what the cops wanted her to do so they could have gotten rough with her.

You seriously don't know how that would look, do you? It would be obvious to a trained Medical Examiner. You are fishing in a lake with no fish.

a reply to: Jaellma

It very well could be different person imo.
Not to mention that large mole on her cheek missing in the earlier picture.

originally posted by: pavil

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord

originally posted by: pavil

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord

originally posted by: TKDRL
a reply to: bm2112

Her own family says that is a suicide. I am not surprised, simply because it would be very difficult to kill someone by hanging them with a bed sheet.

Not when they weight 100 pounds soaking wet. Don't gotta hang them with a bedsheet anyways, just gotta strangle them with something not so obviously different than a bed sheet, then hang them by the bed sheet afterwards to cover it up.

Exactly choking someone to death by strangulation could be covered up by saying they hung themselves. I think it should be investigated. An autopsy should be done by an independant party.

No it wouldn't. There would be markings, different breaking of bones, evidence of struggle, fibers on the hands ect. Numerous things would be different.

She could have been choked to death with a collar of some sort, not necessarily done by hand, but signs of a struggle should be looked into. . . .

Sure she could have found a way to hang herself in prison but its highly unlikely in my opinion.

How many young teen cute girls hang themselves right after they were arrested and have yet to be even sentenced? For petty theft as well.

There are a few motives I can think of, dead people can tell no tales would be the first, she was pretty and could have been molested or raped could be a second, she may have not obeyed what the cops wanted her to do so they could have gotten rough with her.

You seriously don't know how that would look, do you? It would be obvious to a trained Medical Examiner. You are fishing in a lake with no fish.

Which is why an independent autopsy needs to be done to verify the police story of her killing herself while in thier custody. Which makes zero sense by the way. According to them she stole a cell phone then was arrested then killed herself? What? Really? Why was she stealing if she had plans to end it all? People who want death for themselves usually arent trying to aquire more temporary wealth like cell phones while they are preparing to kill themselves. Did she write a letter to her family or tell anyone else on earth she wanted to kill herself. . . . I am guessing she didnt because she most likely didnt kill herself.

I find it interesting that this happened right after Obama made the speech/announcement that we put more people in prison than anywhere else on the planet. It doesn't matter if she was suicidal or not, she was put in jail for not using her turn signal which is ridiculous. If the police did murder her I would suspect that to have been planned by some organized crime as a reaction to Obama's announcement.

Ok so this is pretty weird, as soon as a third incident like this happens I'm going to safely assume there is some orchestrating going on and our entire lives really are controlled.

a reply to: TrueMessiah

Not saying she did or didnt kill herself, but keep in mind.. we know the charge qould be simple (although black people can get absurd sentences for small crimes) but she probably had cops tellinf her non stop about how she faced years. Psychological torture imo.

a reply to: GogoVicMorrow
Wouldn't surprise me any, had cops do similar to me. Almost did hang myself at the time too. Not sure if women get it any easier, but threats of "rape justice" on a daily basis almost got to me......

Thers not that much rape in a woman's County Jail especially a small one like Woodward

Heres what gets me. Normally they dont give prisoners sheets BECAUSE the possibility of hanging themselves. Especially new inmates.

originally posted by: Jaellma
a reply to: LibertyLost

That does NOT appear to be the same person.

The features are totally different.

1. The "young" Kindra has a pointy chin. The mug-shot female has a square jaw
2. Lips are different. Mug-shot female has very full lips. Kindra has a thin top lip
3. The noses are different.
4. Kindra has smaller eyes, with soft Asian looking features
5. Mug shot female has big mole on left cheek and mole on forehead. Kindra does not have any on face
6. The hairlines are totally different, with mug-shot female having a closer-cropped hairline
7. Ears are different
8. Eyebrows are different. Kindra has a higher arch in her brows than the other female
9. Hair textures are different. Mug-shot female has thicker, coarser hair while Kindra has much more wavy hair.

Last, but not least, Kindra does not look 13 in that pic, more like a 16 or 17 year old teenager, with soft features.

Completely agree.

As asktheanimals stated above, the mole on left cheek of the person in the mugshot....do moles grow on a teenager in a matter of 5-6 years??

It seems another OS is turning out to be utter BS. People are busy falling for it, assuming the story presented is 100% true and factual...tisk tisk.

Nice job Jaellma!

I'm surprised no one else in this thread has picked this up....!?

I hardly believe she hung herself feeling so despondant. If she did, heartbreaking. Picture your own children in her shoes. But also picture your own children in a possible homicide by police.

a reply to: Unity_99

I know what it is or who it is. They finally perfected remote assasination. That or freddy krueger is real and they put him on the payroll.

originally posted by: Jaellma
a reply to: LibertyLost

That does NOT appear to be the same person.

The features are totally different.

1. The "young" Kindra has a pointy chin. The mug-shot female has a square jaw
2. Lips are different. Mug-shot female has very full lips. Kindra has a thin top lip
3. The noses are different.
4. Kindra has smaller eyes, with soft Asian looking features
5. Mug shot female has big mole on left cheek and mole on forehead. Kindra does not have any on face
6. The hairlines are totally different, with mug-shot female having a closer-cropped hairline
7. Ears are different
8. Eyebrows are different. Kindra has a higher arch in her brows than the other female
9. Hair textures are different. Mug-shot female has thicker, coarser hair while Kindra has much more wavy hair.

Last, but not least, Kindra does not look 13 in that pic, more like a 16 or 17 year old teenager, with soft features.

that is the official mugshot? cause I'm with you it is not the same person at all.
In fact your post prompted me to look up Sandra Bland mugshot which does not look like her either,sorry I don't know how to post pics so here's a link let me know what you think.
Sandra Bland
I think there's more going on than what's being reported

a reply to: TWILITE22
That younger photo reminds me of a photo that has been skin smoothed in photoshop. She looks to be maybe 12 in that photo, not a single blemish to be seen.

How the hell do these detainees keep getting rope to hang themselves? Last time I was incarcerated they took my pants because they could not get the drawstring out, they also took my shoes. Any cell I have ever been in had a camera and certainly no trash cans, why would you even need a trash can in a cell? It's not like you have any trash to throw away. These occurrences are highly suspicious and reaffirm the notion the police need to be held accountable to non biased and diverse civilian review boards.

Even if they did not murder the person they broke protocol allowing that person to do harm to themselves.

originally posted by: TKDRL
a reply to: TWILITE22
That younger photo reminds me of a photo that has been skin smoothed in photoshop. She looks to be maybe 12 in that photo, not a single blemish to be seen.

comparing the 2 photos I don't believe it's the same person at all and that's weird...why? why would they not show the real mugshot? The mugshot doesn't look like a 18 year old at all she cold be as young as 10 to 12 in that photo. In the video they show on my link in some ways to me it looks like a male. I'm curious why the family isn't saying anything about it? They are going out of they're way to announce it was a suicide I find that bizarre in itself... they seem to be trying too hard to convince the public.I see some of her family is disputing the suicide story.
link to article and video

Sandra Bland's mugshot is also suspicious it doesn't look like her,but also could it be it was post-mortem? could they have photo shopped the damage on her neck and face before releasing it?...what the heck is going on?

a reply to: starfoxxx

Yeah. I have brothers that spent time in jail when younger. They were never in a cell alone. Caught my attention too.

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: starfoxxx

Yeah. I have brothers that spent time in jail when younger. They were never in a cell alone. Caught my attention too.

Every jail is different and equipped based on the budget of that region. Every cell I have ever been in I was alone and on camera which I used to cover with wet toliet paper until they would threaten to put me in the chair NAKED. Needless to say that was enough to get me to pipe down lol.

Some areas don't even have a local jail but instead send you right to the min security section of an actual prison. Jail terms are also different as well. For example I know someone who was locked up in South Dakota and apparently the policy there is anything over a year and you go to prison. Where I am at however anything 18 months or less keeps you in county. Which is why an 18 month sentence is refereed to as "county life sentence" meaning you received the maximum sentence allowed to stay local.

P.S. I have never made it past booking which is why I was by myself, had I not made bail and actually got "showered in" as it is called then I would have been in a pod. Then again my "special" circumstances would most likely find me in Protective custody against my will. No one ever wants to go to PC on account that is where they also house the snitches and Pedo's. Even though I would not like that it would be in there eyes for my own protection as I am Trans and they would not want to even tempt the other inmates. What they do not know is that I would probaly know a lot of the guys in there and it may be a reunion of sorts, oh the irony.