The Attorney General just admitted that the Federal Government commited a Hate Crime

originally posted by: Violater1
a reply to: Violater1

If you look at this Egregious event through a keyhole, you are missing opening of a door. The view that many of us here are seeing, through the door, is that the Fed is being two faced about their own laws. The Fed can violate US law, but enforce that same law on you! Simplistically, if the Fed says that only white people can be on the net on Mondays, and that Tuesdays are only for (fill in your race), and that anyone in the Fed can be on the net any time, would be a violation of your rights, related to your race, or ethnicity.
Does that open the door for you?

Gotta love the Religious Freedom and Restoration Act!

FREE EXERCISE OF RELIGION PROTECTED.

(a) In General: Government shall not substantially burden a person's exercise of religion even if the burden results from a rule of general applicability, except as provided in subsection (b).
(b) Exception: Government may substantially burden a person's exercise of religion only if it demonstrates that application of the burden to the person--
(1) is in furtherance of a compelling governmental interest; and
(2) is the least restrictive means of furthering that compelling governmental interest.

www.welcomehome.org...

a reply to: Violater1
WOW apples and oranges.

originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: Violater1
WOW apples and oranges.

Indeed both a fruit.

a reply to: Sremmos80

Why doesnt anyone discuss the fact that synthetic hormones, particularly estrogen, used in birth control kills not just women but the environment:

Many women do not consider the very real (and sometimes very dangerous) side effects of these synthetic hormones, but you owe it to your body, and to your future children, to find out more.

Many birth control pills contain high levels of estrogen that effectively convince your pituitary gland that you are pregnant (this explains some of the side effects of the drugs) and that you don’t need to ovulate. Because your body thinks you are pregnant, the uterine lining thickens. Once you start the placebo pills, however, your estrogen level drops suddenly, and your body menstruates “normally.”

This abnormal cycle is what millions of women experience every month, and yet few doctors discuss the consequences of taking these prescriptions for year after year.

Lets see now here are just a few of the mucdane side effects, which of course lead to chronic and more severe issues:

Larger breasts
Weight gain or loss
Reduced or increased acne
Slight nausea
Emotional sensitivity right before your period
Mood swings throughout your cycle
Irregular bleeding or spotting
Breast tenderness
Decreased libido

But lets not just stop there, you see my sister got breast cancer at 38, estrogenic...odd she was on the pill for 22 years:

Increased risk of cervical and breast cancers
Increased risk of heart attack and stroke
Migraines
Higher blood pressure
Gall bladder disease
Infertility
Benign liver tumors
Decreased bone density
Yeast overgrowth and infection
Increased risk of blood clotting

Trying to make birth control a healthcare issue is ridiculous and in contradiction to the Hippocratic oath. People can practice safer sex via alternative avenues, this is just another example of big pharma trying to make huge dollars from the endless supply of tax payer dollars. Wake up your, pregnancy is a result of your own choices or lack there of...nobody else should have to pay for them. Use a damn rubber and leave the sisters alone, as this is a violation of the Freedom to practice ones religion unmolested by the government.

bodyecology.com...

Sandra Fluke anyone???????

You go to the drugstore to pick up your birth control prescription and the pharmacist tells you it’s $50. Wait a second, isn’t this supposed to be free?

Well yes…and no, it turns out. The Affordable Care Act says healthcare plans must cover contraception prescribed by a woman’s doctor without a copayment or coinsurance (they’re considered preventative services). That means most private plans must cover the 18 methods of contraception approved by the FDA (including hormonal methods like birth control pills and vaginal rings, barrier methods like diaphragms, implanted devices, emergency contraception, and sterilization) as well as counseling appointments related to birth control.

news.health.com...

Does medical insurance cover ED treatment's? or is that not considered "birth control"?

a reply to: Violater1

You are stretching the premise of your title here. The AG didn't just admit to committing a hate crime. You are just trying to bring up a prior ruling to catch the AG in hypocrisy. Then you worded the title clickbait style.

a reply to: StoutBroux

Does medical insurance cover ED treatment's?

Yes. If you, or your spouse, are covered under these nun's insurance policy, then yes, your ED would be covered, but not your wive's birth control needs, if these nuns have their way, when you do get it up. Every sperm is sacred!

a reply to: Violater1

How is completing a form against their religious beliefs?

a reply to: Rocker2013

You are falling victim to the dialectic and only serving to line the pockets of big pharma. The argument is there to keep people fighting over fairness when in fact big pharma will continue to raise prices annually and rape the tax payers coffers via these types of subsidies, how is it that Universities have become so expensive? Alot has to do with the endless well of taxpayer subsidized cash rolling in...people need to stop arguing Conservative, Liberal Christian, Muslim...so many dialectics, so little critical thinking. Big business profits while reducing population agenda get pushed. Bill Gates wins on both counts.

a reply to: Violater1

Female contraceptives like the birth control pill are used in some instances to help control pain associated with Polycystic Ovary Syndrome.

In this case it's used more as a medicine than birth control.

So the question here is. In this narrow situation. Should a religious group deny someone their "medicine" based on religious beliefs?

as an aside. I knew a lesbian woman that had to take the pill in order to help with her pcos. And not for birth control.

a reply to: BlueJacket

Ya let's link a site pushing a product!

When docs and pharmacist agree that there is more then just a contraceptive use to bc, I'll take their word for it.

a reply to: Violater1

Any chance you can answer my question on how it is a hate crime if the are not being singled out but being held to the same standard as everyone?

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Violater1

Any chance you can answer my question on how it is a hate crime if the are not being singled out but being held to the same standard as everyone?

Probably about as much of a chance my question will be answered: How is completing a form against their religious beliefs?

Ignorance does not make an argument....its also science.

a reply to: Sremmos80

And I have credentials myself buddy.
a reply to: Sremmos80

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Violater1

Any chance you can answer my question on how it is a hate crime if the are not being singled out but being held to the same standard as everyone?

Probably about as much of a chance my question will be answered: How is completing a form against their religious beliefs?

The reason of their challenge is that, by saying so, they become complicit—because then others will make sure that their employees have coverage. Ergo, If they didn't have to fill out the form, then ANOTHER entity would NOT cover the cost baby murdering drug. But obamacare makes them fill out THAT form, involving them, because they filled out the form, that would allow the the woman/girl to obtain the drug. Take the bullet out of the gun, and it won't kill any one. I understand if people don't get it. People think it's ok to drive and drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes, or "do drugs."
Forest Gump said it so eloquently.

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: Violater1

Female contraceptives like the birth control pill are used in some instances to help control pain associated with Polycystic Ovary Syndrome.

In this case it's used more as a medicine than birth control.

So the question here is. In this narrow situation. Should a religious group deny someone their "medicine" based on religious beliefs?

as an aside. I knew a lesbian woman that had to take the pill in order to help with her pcos. And not for birth control.

Having had pcos, I compare it to diabetes and so do a lot of physicians. Control your blood sugar, control pcos. It is actually related to insulin resistance. In other words, control your weight, control pcos.

a reply to: Violater1

Paying for public services like healthcare, even ones that don't always work the way you like, does not equal violence.
ONE tiny part of the law you are finally not exempted is not violence.

Previously Catholics were all too happy to let the US Government evaluate the qualification of their religion for exemptions because they knew the laws in question weren't aimed at them, but at competing minor cults. If the church had not gone to the government in the first place and asked to be treated differently from any other group of citizens, there would be no precedent for the government questioning their beliefs in order to determine whether or not they can get around paying.

Here's my counterproposal- all citizens and groups of citizens play by the same rules. Everyone pays or nobody pays, everyone has the right to not play along or else nobody does. Your churches will pay taxes and nobody will ever ask you a question that can't be answered with math.