101 Pics That Prove Nephilim Giants Existed - Hidden History - Part 2

a reply to: randyvs

And as always, if that becomes the case, then I change my view to accept that reality. That's the difference between science and faith. In science, the improbable is never impossible. I just demand a higher level of proof to accept the improbable and don't just accept it dismiss it. I never rule it out. Conversely, the reverse isn't usually true for those in opposition to science. Their rabid stance of anti intellectualism. They can't, or won't, accept the possibility of being wrong or that there is something out there beyond their myopic world view. To them it's all or nothing. Keep in mind, when I say "them" I'm not referring to you. We may not be on the same page and you may scoff at how I look at the world but I honestly believe that despite all that, there is some threshold to be crossed where you could change your mind. Am I wrong about that?

a reply to: peter vlar

Nah, I can't say you're wrong about anything and I try not to scoff.
I even agree with you on the reverse converse
and realise how fantastic what I believe, must seem, from your side of the coin.
But isn't what we both perceive everyday just a little bit to fantastic to
believe? It takes my breath away to think of how this all happened and whether
it all has some ultimate purpose. Or even if it doesn't? It's just as hard to fathom.

thanks Peter

a reply to: TzarChasm

careful randy, you are starting to show some of that confirmation bias we have talked about before...otherwise you wouldnt have overlooked the stuff that krazysh0t and aorAki posted.

Yeah I know, I often get to carried away. I guess as silly as it can be made to sound.
I don't see how giants could not have existed with so much indication that they
did at one time. But then I think, if they were as prevalent as what I believe.
A bone wouldn't be asking to much to pop up in anyones possession some where
around the globe. The fact that no one comes forward with such, seems a bit odd.

a reply to: BlessedLore

One example of many: As CERN keeps going and they keep creating dark matter they are weakening the veil between the spiritual and the physical, also severely affecting the universe and everything on earth. This is one of the reasons why the world is is heading toward chaos at a seemingly rate. Dark matter affects the human psyche in a negative(demonic) way, dark matter is always present during supernatural events wither ghost or ufo,people can manifest dark matter too, people with high dark matter are typically possessed, or being used as a vassal for a fallen one, it is why the CERN is buried so deep too offset the effects of dark matter to the general population but they will soon lose control.

And exactly how do you know this? Do you have a paper on the subject? Maybe some sources? Or just opinion, based on a sciency word ?

I have really never dived too far into the realm of giants, so you have peaked my interest. In seeking out more info regarding footprints, I discovered this Stanford university Education PDF I believe if you or others on this thread have not read it, you will find it quite fascinating. More food for thought? The study has a lot of history packed into 22 pages, certainly would be a nice springboard of facts for any who wish to dive deeper in their own studies.

a reply to: strangechristian777

That cuts both ways. He may not have evidence in hand for his beliefs, but someone could probably walk him to it. Do you have evidence of your opposing beliefs in your personal possession or do you just believe what you believe because you don't literally own proof of the other theory?

a reply to: BlessedLore




One example of many: As CERN keeps going and they keep creating dark matter they are weakening the veil between the spiritual and the physical, also severely affecting the universe and everything on earth. This is one of the reasons why the world is is heading toward chaos at a seemingly rate. Dark matter affects the human psyche in a negative(demonic) way, dark matter is always present during supernatural events wither ghost or ufo,people can manifest dark matter too, people with high dark matter are typically possessed, or being used as a vassal for a fallen one, it is why the CERN is buried so deep too offset the effects of dark matter to the general population but they will soon lose control.


And exactly how do you know this? Do you have a paper on the subject? Maybe some sources? Or just opinion, based on a sciency word ?

a reply to: DAVID64

A little bit of it all, papers, sources, and opinion. I'll do my best to provide links but some of this stuff if still around will be years old at best, here it goes:

Dark Matter DNA active during day night cycle (nih.gov link)

How dark matter interacts with the human body

Dark matter's deep reach

In the last article they touch on how dark matter holds the galaxy afloat, can cause extinctions, earthquakes and volcanic eruptions as well.

www.reasons.org...

home.web.cern.ch...

In this link above CERN hint at the "hidden valley" (which I call the bottomless pit) in this article, but trust me when I say they know so much more than they let on.

If I' m not mistaken all articles were wrote prior to actually finding dark mater using CERN and before CERN reached 13 telv and higher. There's so much more but I'm tired of finding links already, also more on the meta-physical/occult side as well. They are one and the same modern science and the occult, people just don't realize it. The shiva statue outside CERN HQ has nothing to do with the religion aspect and has another meaning/intent entirely different. If enough people are interested and message me then I will do a post on ATS about this. I do not want to drift the thread from it's original topic of giants here on earth. The giants are still here, and sooner than we think they we emerge again...

originally posted by: BlessedLore
a reply to: strangechristian777

Great link op, sure to show something to all if they look. I KNOW aliens are actually fallen angels, demons, nephalim and hybrids. Soon in the next few years to come we will see the days as the days of Noah as well believer and unbeliever alike.... It has already begun. Many manifesting factors merging, we are the last generation. May all find Jesus before our last breath passes. Sad that many will perish for lack of knowledge. One example of many: As CERN keeps going and they keep creating dark matter they are weakening the veil between the spiritual and the physical, also severely affecting the universe and everything on earth. This is one of the reasons why the world is is heading toward chaos at a seemingly rate. Dark matter affects the human psyche in a negative(demonic) way, dark matter is always present during supernatural events wither ghost or ufo,people can manifest dark matter too, people with high dark matter are typically possessed, or being used as a vassal for a fallen one, it is why the CERN is buried so deep too offset the effects of dark matter to the general population but they will soon lose control. The "Hidden Valley" the researchers at CERN hope to find a place were the dark matter and dark energy reside but what they find will be the bottomless pit. They have already broken one of the barriers protecting us from the bottomless pit; the Pentaquark and they will be successful as almost all-will be loosened to the dark ones in these days. Christians be strong and be vigilant and aware. We are at the calm before the storm. For the saved no matter how worse it gets in the world true SHTF doesn't happen until the anti-christ appears and sits at the temple and proclaim he is god, that's the exact time when true christian's should shout from the rooftops and leave to the mountains and the wilderness and never look back. Too all else I truly hope you seek Jesus before it is too late.

Op, thank you for the post and link, it was refreshing to see all the ancient world stonework detailing the slave life to the giants pre-flood on the egypt and older ones. Most I knew about, but the multiple sailor accounts on the link were new to me and quite refreshing. I pray God keep you strong and continue to bless you in all ways and watch over us all his elect and guide us in his ways that we may be a blessing to many in the coming times in Jesus name I pray Amen.

sol444

Amen!
2nd

a reply to: TechUnique

Thank you TechUnique,

It is refreshing to see another christian with their eyes open. God bless you and yours, may the Lord always guide you in all your ways and travels and may the holy spirit bless you with wisdom, strength, intellect, endurance, and long-suffering so we may overcome and be the lights and plant seeds among the many, and pass through and receive our crown, in Jesus name I pray, amen.

Reply just to mark this for later. This is one of the most in depth articles I have ever read on this subject and can't wait to get home to finish reading. Looks like an all day job at least! a reply to: strangechristian777

originally posted by: BlessedLore
a reply to: TechUnique

Thank you TechUnique,

It is refreshing to see another christian with their eyes open. God bless you and yours, may the Lord always guide you in all your ways and travels and may the holy spirit bless you with wisdom, strength, intellect, endurance, and long-suffering so we may overcome and be the lights and plant seeds among the many, and pass through and receive our crown, in Jesus name I pray, amen.

Don't bless me and mine, thank you!! I don't appreciate it!

you can believe any crap you want... but don't try to force it on others!

Every so often this site gets a new batch of debunkers and sceptics who jump in almost every alien/ufo/giants thread to spam their one-sided views and will do anything to discredit good information on these sorts of topics.

Anybody who has seen Jim Vieira's lectures on giants knows the evidence is overwhelming, and somehow all these bones and skulls end up "missing" or in a box somewhere in the Smithsonian's basement.

There's is a huge (pun intended) part of our history being kept from us, and it's a shame we have ATS'er among us who are obviously ok with that.

Deny ignorance. Even if it's your own

originally posted by: IofRa
and will do anything to discredit good information on these sorts of topics.

even if it's not good information, and has been dealt with ad infinitum already on this site? Dante Fortson was/is(?) a member on this site, but he hasn't been active for a while. It would seem he's gone to 'easier' pastures where less people question his word and are more likely to give him things, such as money...

Reposting this link:
ATS search function: Giants

originally posted by: IofRa
There's is a huge (pun intended) part of our history being kept from us, and it's a shame we have ATS'er among us who are obviously ok with that./quote]
If such a thing were happening, I doubt if anybody would be OK with it. Good thing no such thing is happening, though, except in the minds of the ignorant and the gullible.

originally posted by: IofRa
Every so often this site gets a new batch of debunkers and sceptics who jump in almost every alien/ufo/giants thread to spam their one-sided views and will do anything to discredit good information on these sorts of topics.

If there was some good information there would be nothing to "debunk". Please present some that would stand up to scientific scrutiny and there won't be anything to actually debunk. Keep presenting fluff and you can likely expect the same kind of response as this thread received. The real issue here is that the "debunkers" as you refer to them, are open minded enough to actually accept evidence if it were presented whereas the devout proponents of story hour are entirely unwilling to entertain the possibility that they could be wrong.

Anybody who has seen Jim Vieira's lectures on giants knows the evidence is overwhelming, and somehow all these bones and skulls end up "missing" or in a box somewhere in the Smithsonian's basement.

You mean the same Jim Vieira who has had his TEDx talk video: Stone Builders, Mound Builders and the Giants of Ancient America removed from the internet once fact checkers found that he was in effect a lying sack of doggy poo for reiterating a 19th centurt hoax as though it were a scientific fact? Interesting... I'm happy to post the letter from TedX that tears his presentation apart if you like.

There's is a huge (pun intended) part of our history being kept from us, and it's a shame we have ATS'er among us who are obviously ok with that.

As AdmireTheDistance points out, nobody would be OK with that. We're also not OK with unsupported pseudoscience being the toast du jour.

Deny ignorance. Even if it's your own

You would do well to take your own advice. Confirmation bias much?

Ahhh hell... just so I cover all my bases, here is the letter from TedX Curator, Stacy Kontrabecki explaining why they were forced to remove his material-

14 December 2012
Dear Jim,
As you know, I have been receiving a lot of queries regarding your TEDx talk and challenging the scientific validity of some of what you presented. I, for one, have been deeply gratified by the on-line response to your talk even though a number of the YouTube comments have challenged your presentation.

As a result of these challenges, and challenges to other science-based videos from other TEDx communities, TED issued a detailed memo from TED on how to vet science-based speakers and discourage “pseudo-science” with respect to potential TEDx presenters. I wish I had received this before assembling our presenter group.

In any case, I agreed with the TED team, who felt they had to do a fact check based on these guidelines. While I concur with much of what the fact check revealed, I am still grateful for your presentation at our first TEDxShelburneFalls conference.

Basically, TED’s fact check found that your talk is based on a debunked popular hoax from the early 1900s and promotes a well-known and widely discredited fringe theory, while misrepresenting the existence of legitimate research on this issue. (TED/TEDx is not a platform that allows unsubstantiated claims to be put forward as science.) Here are just a few specific examples of the unsubstantiated claims in your TEDx talk:
1.At 2:03 — You claim: “These structures are so staggering that people don’t even think they exist still.” In fact, there is a general archaeological consensus about the impressive civilization demonstrated by the moundbuilders in Cahokia and similar sites.
2.At 4:05 — You claim: “The moundbuilders who built all kinds of structures.” All evidence for the moundbuilders’ architecture suggests that they built with sod packets and wood.
3.At 4:19 — You mention carbon-dating but do not specify what was carbon-dated. You cannot carbon-date stone. Again at 6:00.
4.At 7:26 — You mention Mayan theories. Since the recent deciphering of almost the full Mayan script, the astronomical preoccupation attributed to Mayan writings has been largely discredited. Most of the numbers found in the Mayan script are now believed to be dates of births, coronations and wars.
5.At 9:15 — You share newspaper clippings from the 19th century, including quotes from Abraham Lincoln, and claim they are evidence of giants. In fact, as one of our experts writes, “Skeletal hoaxes were common in the 19th century (e.g., Piltdown Man, the Cardiff Giant, and Barnum & Bailey Fiji mermaids [now at Harvard’s Peabody Museum]). If (and this is a big if) the 8-foot skeleton is real, it could be a case of medical gigantism, but it is more likely a case of exaggeration.”
6.With respect to the theories of gigantism, the TEDx fact checkers spoke to an expert who researched Middle Woodland and Mississippian skeletal collections at the Center for American Archaeology (CAA), based in Kampsville, IL, in 2007. The CAA is one of the largest repositories of excavated Woodland and Mississippian skeletal remains in the nation, and their osteological collections are available for student and scholarly study. One expert stated “I can assure you that the archaeological Woodland and Mississippian populations were not giants. In some cases, one can observe a slight decrease in average height (a few centimeters) with the transition from hunting and gathering to agriculture. This is a trend that is observed in many cultures that undergo an agricultural transition, and is likely related to shorter nursing times and increased early childhood grain consumption (maximum height is highly correlated to childhood protein consumption, so a high reliance on grain during childhood tends to result in shorter stature).”

a reply to: peter vlar

7.At 12:49 — “Bones crumbled away because they weren’t mummified.” Skeletal preservation and mummification are unrelated processes. Plenty of skeletons survive in New England, and the disappearance of any and all skeletons that could lend evidence to these claims today is highly suspect.
8.With respect to repeated claims that the Smithsonian is hiding or covering up evidence, the fact checkers also heard this, as well: “In 2007 I was a visiting scientist at the Smithsonian Museum Support Center, and while it is full of amazing and bizarre material (e.g., an entire herd of elephants that Teddy Roosevelt shot occupies one floor), there is no conspiracy to cover up or hide Native American giant skeletons or artifacts. Like most museums, the Smithsonian displays less than 1% of its collections at any given time, meaning that a lot of material spends decades (or sadly centuries) in its vaults awaiting exhibition. We can debate whether or not this is responsible stewardship (a debate that would also have to include a discussion of the chronic underfunding of public museums and the economics of public education), but to portray the Smithsonian today as part of some sort of a conspiracy of ‘misinformation and corruption’ to cover up Native American history by hiding giant moundbuilder skeletons excavated in the 19th century is ridiculous. Smithsonian physical anthropologists have published an impressive body of literature on the analysis of their collections.”

The bottom line for me, Jim, as a TEDx curator, is that I need to support the criteria that all science-based TEDx talks I hope to present must be fully substantiated. Unfortunately, as a result of TED’s research, we will be removing your talk from the TEDxTalks YouTube channel.

You may contact the TEDx team at [email protected].
Address your correspondence to Lara Stein, TEDx Director and Emily McManus, TED.com Editor.

Thanks for your understanding.

Stacy Kontrabecki
Curator, TEDxShelburneFalls

tedxshelburnefalls.wordpress.com...

Certainly interesting and makes a compelling contribution to the argument that giants or Nephilim existed but it's dangerous to say it proves anything. I'm sure if, in 1000 years time future humans find the famous painting of dogs playing poker, they won't just automatically assume that dogs could play poker and had human qualities.

Painting or sculpting images of large people/humans could just be the way a previous civilisation expressed themselves, i.e. the larger beings could just be kings or even their own mythical figures.

Either way, I'd absolutely love to believe that they existed, think we just need more proof.

Interesting pictures all the same, though, thanks.

originally posted by: DaemonD14
I'm sure if, in 1000 years time future humans find the famous painting of dogs playing poker, they won't just automatically assume that dogs could play poker and had human qualities.

This is the guy I mentioned earlier on in the thread.
His name is Gary Wayne and he`s put done some great research on the subject.
I listened to this interview last week and found it amazing.

Even if you don`t believe in giants it`s worth taking a little time out to listen to this interview....some may change their views.

a reply to: lambros56

I'm sorry, I'm not going to sit through a radio interview of over an hour and a half in length. Is there any chance you can break it down a little? You say you found it "amazing." What about it, in particular, did you find amazing?

Perhaps he wants to sell you something?

There is also a facebook page (of course) with the following:

There are giants among us, passing largely unnoticed, intent on carrying out a secret plan to enslave all humanity. They may not look like giants today, but their bloodlines extend all the way back to the Nephilim—the offspring of angels who mated with human women—described in Genesis 6 when giants roamed the land. Gary Wayne, author of The Genesis 6 Conspiracy: How Secret Societies and the Descendants of Giants Plan to Enslave Humankind, details the role of modern-day Nephilim in Satan’s plan to install the Antichrist at the End of Days.

When God cast the angel Lucifer and his followers out of heaven, Lucifer set into motion a scheme to ensure the Nephilim survived. Why? Because from the bloodlines of these Nephilim the Antichrist will come. To keep his plan alive, Satan has enlisted the loyalty of secret societies such as the Freemasons, the Templars, and the Rosicrucians to conspire in teaching a theology and a history of the world that is contrary to the biblical one.

This Genesis 6 Conspiracy marches toward the Great Tribulation, when the loyalty of the Terminal Generation—this generation—will be tested. The Bible, along with many other ancient sources, clearly records the existence of giants. Wayne provides copious citations from many society insiders, along with extensive Bible references, other religious references, and historical material to bolster his contention. What he uncovers will astonish you—and it will challenge you to prepare for the fulfilling of God’s promises.

Sounds like the usual nonsense, already dealt with in this thread.