101 Pics That Prove Nephilim Giants Existed - Hidden History - Part 2

originally posted by: WhateverYouSay
a reply to: cooperton


something which you don't have to blindly believe as it's testable and fits into a coherent world view and causes actual measurable effects...

www.wnho.net...
healthimpactnews.com...

Why are you refusing this testable evidence?

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Murgatroid

Another damning report and they go on on and on and on.
The evidence for me is so conclusive and at the same time
very hard for an academic to accept but

YOU'VE ALL BEEN LIED TO IN MULTIBLES.

careful randy, you are starting to show some of that confirmation bias we have talked about before...otherwise you wouldnt have overlooked the stuff that krazysh0t and aorAki posted.

why not just admit that you dont give two farts what the evidence says, you care what YOU think. then the rest of us dont have to waste time trying to show you the error of your ways. or paying attention to your errors to begin with.

murgatroid passed that point a long time ago, from what i can tell.

originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: WhateverYouSay
a reply to: cooperton


something which you don't have to blindly believe as it's testable and fits into a coherent world view and causes actual measurable effects...

www.wnho.net...
healthimpactnews.com...

Why are you refusing this testable evidence?

I'm not refuting the first link. Obviously medical malpractice, medical mistakes, and adverse drug effects happen. If a drug increases your life span by 10 years and then a side effect of it causes your death, do we stop prescribing it? Obviously not.

Furthermore the presumption of the authors is not that modern medicine be abandoned, but rather that it police itself to improve as much as possible. That is reasonable. We wouldn't have science, or modern medicine without that attitude.

Your other link is bs. It's not peer reviewed, and I know why. He cites different papers that have different methodologies so he can count deaths twice to boost the numbers. He lists bed sores and infections as iatrogenic causes of death. Bed sore deaths occur from infection. He's just double counted them. Which is why he cites so many different sources for the numbers. There, science is falsifiable, meaning we can remove the chaff as progress.

Now explain to me why you listened to this 1 guy and not the millions of others giving counter information. It couldn't have anything to do with confirmation bias?

originally posted by: strangechristian777
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I bet you believe in evolution right? How much of the evidence have you seen in a lab? Probably none. All I've ever seen are a bunch of pictures in a book and a bunch of guys on TV saying they agree with the "evidence".

The average person doesn't have access to any of the equipment it takes to test for alleles, DNA, etc... so all we have to go on is a bunch of pics in text books. There's no difference. You just choose to believe one and not the other.

Did you really just say that there's no difference between the evidence for evolution and the evidence for Nephilim?

originally posted by: cooperton

How convenient, anyone who disagrees with your thoughts is a scam artist.

No, only the ones who received warning letters from the FDA in 2005, 2006 and 2011 telling him and his company to stop making illegal claims regarding his products abilities to detect, prevent and treat disease. There are plenty of people whom I disagree with and have never referred to as scam artists.

Conveniently for me, this "scam artist",(who everyone else calls "Doctor"),

Call him whatever you like, he's not an M.D.

has peer-reviewed research References at the bottom of this page to back his statements.

Here is a case done by other DOCTORS who are making the same claims, and have over 150 Resources - Death by Medicine - to back their claims.

Did you actually read this '150 resources- Death by Medicine' page? all of their numbers are "projected" none of them are the actual numbers. Another section rails against iatrogenic issues with antibiotics and then goes into a tirade against the food industry for overuse of antibiotics in cattle. That has absolutely nothing to do with the medical establishment whatsoever. The researchers are drawing inaccurate correlations. It's a scare tactic. The section on unnecessary surgical procedures is little better.

It's very difficult to obtain accurate statistics when studying unnecessary surgery. Dr. Leape in 1989 wrote that perhaps 30% of controversial surgeries are unnecessary.

How do you go from saying its difficult to obtain accurate numbers to pulling 30% out of a hat like a white rabbit? They create another false corollary with their unnecessary X-ray claim relating it to cancer mortality rates. They looked at no other variables. How do these people even work? This just goes on and on. It makes my head hurt looking at such poorly researched and compiled data.

Mr. Vlar, do you have any references backing your claims? Or are you just throwing a temper tantrum?

So anyone who disagrees with the drivel you post has to suffer childish ad hominem attacks huh?

www.casewatch.org...
www.casewatch.org...
www.casewatch.org...
www.chicagotribune.com...=1

Mercola believes that not only does HIV not cause AIDS but that HIV and AIDS don't even exist. That alone makes him a moron.

He tries to talk people into purchasing mega doses of Vitamin D which he charges 39.99 for on his website. The same dose you can get at your local walgreens for about $7. You probably don't think that's sketchy at all though right?

He believes microwaves kill all the nutrients in food when used to cook www.nytimes.com...

He offers a 100% money back guarantee on his website but generally refuses to honor it per the BBB

Mercola markets his supplements through Mercola Health Resources, LLC. In 2011, after a customer complained that she thought a product she purchased was overpriced, I began checking whether the Better Business Bureau had received any complaints. I found that the company was rated C- on a scale of A+ through F. On February 1, 2012, the BBB reported that during the previous 36 months, there were 26 complaints—which is not an unusually high number for a high-volume business—but the report contained the following comments:


A recent review of consumer complaints filed with the BBB of Chicago & Northern Illinois against your Mercola Health Resources, LLC delineates a pattern of consumer allegations. Consumers are alleging that Mercola Health Resources does not honor the 100% money-back guarantee listed on your website. Customers have reported that refunds have not been provided for returns that were specifically covered under this guarantee. Consumers have also reported that they have experienced delivery issues. While www.mercola.com states that orders ship within 10 business days, consumers say they have waited much longer for their products. Customers allege that the company's service staff has been unable to provide explanations regarding this delay. Some consumers have also reported that Mercola provided them with shipment tracking numbers that were not valid with their respective carriers

He also claims that mammograms don't save lives. Yeah... he's F#ing brilliant.

There are just too many examples and while I could do this all day, I really don't want to. If you want a charlatan to be your savior, then by all means, go right ahead. Natural selection will sort things out all by itself.

a reply to: Murgatroid

And there you have it.

It amazes me how some remain so naïve towards the suppression and reasons therof of all aspects of our society, archaeology included. It's like the only evidence accepted is only what has been told or shown by those in control of the scientific, educational, political, financial etc. systems. No need to think outside the box or trust any "unofficial" source that states otherwise. There are those who have worked in these systems and are trying to get the word out, risking their reputations, careers, even lives to inform us but it continuously falls on deaf ears.

The incognizant demonstrate no awareness of anything either being purposely omitted or concealed by these establishments which is surprising being that this isn't the first time these subjects have been encountered on this site. Some have been registered since the mid 2000s' and are still asking the same questions like "why isn't there any fossil/ufo crash/(pick your "conspiracy") evidence"? There are just some things we common citizens just aren't supposed to know for a diverse number of reasons, the topic of this thread is one of them.

It's time for this old and tired paradigm humanity as been in for what seems like eons to come to a halt. When it does, everything will be rewritten starting with the almost insurmountable rearrangement of human/Earth history.

a reply to: peter vlar

Mercola uses articles that express his views, he is the messenger, you should only be critiquing the source information. And, of course they won't be actually documented numbers, do you think hospitals/doctors are prone to document their mistakes? I read that an estimated 6% of such mistakes are even recorded. Regardless, Let me try to express my ideas differently

Peter Vlar: "Natural selection will sort things out all by itself."


This is my issue with man-made alterations in general. Whether you believe organisms evolved into the way they are, or there was a Beneficent Design, we can all conclude that nature and human should be harmonized, working in either a perfectly Created synchrony, or a synchrony that developed over hundreds of millions of years of guess-and-check work by nature. Regardless of how you look at it, nature is (was) in perfect harmony.

So, why must man intervene? Why do we even get cancer? There are countless bodily fail-safe mechanisms that ensure cancer does not happen. Every vegetable and fruit have countless anti-oxidant/anti-cancer/anti-inflammatory phytonutrients within them such as lycopene, hesperidin, diosmin, quercetin, etc, etc. But, We look at our habits and realize that we have alienated ourselves from this perfect harmony.

My problem with mainstream contemporary medicine is that it does not address the root problem, it only attempts to ameliorate the manifested symptoms. Instead of addressing the problem, we are sweeping it under the rug. I strongly urge everyone to read the work of Michael Pollan. His conclusions (in my opinion, assuming nature is ideal) should be mainstream, but they are not, because you can't make money off his findings like you could with pharma drugs, chemo, etc... He concluded, like many others have, that westernization and the lethargy, poor diet, and general unnatural living conditions are the cause of all many ailments.

For example, what did the people of old do without modern dentistry? Surely all their teeth fell out. Nope. It was not until the advent of processed sugar that rotting teeth became a thing. In fact, In Queen Elizabeth's time it used to be a status symbol to have rotted teeth because only royalty could afford the "luxury" of refined sugar. Cultures that eat nothing but real food do not have these problems. Yet today, mostly all of us in the western world require a dentist. Aren't we supposed to be the most advanced civilization of all time?

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: peter vlar

Another excellent retort.

The Romans used to refer to the Celts as giants too. Does that make the Celts 15 feet tall and descended from the gods? No

But do the Royals today, or have they ever, considered themselves decendants of the Gods?
Of course they have.

Lot's of people have tried to claim descent from the gods, that they were in fact gods or that they were the messenger of gods or a god. It doesn't make any of it true though. It just means they are trying to justify their control or attempts at control, over groups or nations of people.

Because of this you might look into questioning all that you think you
know Peter. Evidence can lie and you know it.

What I think I know isn't particularly pertinent. I look at the evidence at hand and follow it to its conclusion with no regard to what I believe. The only thing I believe in is the truth, no matter what rabbit hole that leads me to.

Evidence doesn't lie. People lie. People can misinterpret evidence sometimes or attempt to manipulate evidence to present a view that is preferable to their confirmation biases. Cremo is one stellar example of this.

The video of the giant footprint in S. Africa from Murgatroid's post that initiated this conversation can not be considered to be lying, misinterpreted or manipulated. Well, except for whoever carved it. Because the geologic properties of the granite preclude it being an actual footprint. Yet people are still posting the same video as though it is actual evidence of a giant traipsing across the sub Saharan savannah millions of years ago.

I also agree Peter that art is not evidence.

Unless you just have to much art saying one thing. As in this case.
Even you have to consider it.

Following that train of thought then, Cyclops are real, centaurs are real, gorgons are real and on and on. If we were to base reality on artwork based on myths, stylized pieces and pieces influenced by psychotropic substances then a whole host of unrealistic things that there is no objective evidence of must be considered real. I've got a roll of canvas in the next room and some new brushes. Does that mean I can go paint some fantastical creation, name it Randy and then you will magically morph into my painting if I make enough copies and send them around the world and then other artists copy my work, put their own spin on it and further stylize it to create an army of misanthropic Randy's? It would be cool as hell but I have some serious doubts that would be the outcome.

When I got hurt and was discharged from the Army, a couple of things helped me to keep my sanity. One was playing music, the other was stumbling upon Cremo's 'Forbidden Archaeology'. I was fascinated by it, I devoured it and then I took an objective look into the claims. The TV show based on his work and narrated by Charlton Heston was what made me want to go back to school for Anthropology and I entered into it with wide eyed wonder. And then unfortunately for Cremo, I learned concepts like due diligence. I learned the importance of verifying things that are presented as fact. I quickly learned that Cremo's work just did not stand up to even a cursory review. Does this mean I lost that wide eyed wonder that excited me and made me crawl out of the hell I had created for myself? Absolutely not! I still approach science with that same viewpoint, that the fantastic and wondrous may just lie around the next corner. I felt that same giddiness the first time I handled a Neanderthal skull, the first time I took measurements of attachment point scars and realized how f#'ing strong these people truly were... every time I've picked up a book, read a research paper or signed on to ATS to see what had been posted since I was last on. I learned that my mistakes or errors can often be the greatest learning experiences as they will show me where I went wrong and it will usually put me on a path where I'm going to learn something new.None of this means I will automatically dismiss something because it is improbable or illogical at first glance. It means I look at it all with objectivity and weigh the facts. If something can hold up to the scrutiny then I accept it as true because that's how the scientific method works. There aren't preconceived notions blurring the end result for me because I'm not focused on the finish line, I'm focused on the journey that will get me there, wherever there is.But I digress...

Giants though, they don't hold up to the scrutiny. Aside from everything myself and others have posted throughout this thread, there are physical restrictions on how tall a bipedal creature can actually get, there are health issues that inevitably cut your life short. The taller one is, typically, the less their lifespan is as their height is generally associated with a medical condition in the most extreme cases.. The taller one is, the harder it is to be able to maintain a proper center of gravity and actually stay upright. Humans don't have tails to act as a counter weight like a T-Rex for example. There is also a maximum threshold for weight that our bones can hold, legs and spine are most affected. We have a legitimate upper limit where our bodies can actually function. You can count on your hand how many people are alive and over 8 ft tall, the tallest being 8' 3", all of them require crutches to walk and all 3 are that tall because of tumors on their pituitary gland. The density required for bone and muscle to support a person of that stature is logistically implausible.

originally posted by: strangechristian777
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I bet you believe in evolution right? How much of the evidence have you seen in a lab? Probably none. All I've ever seen are a bunch of pictures in a book and a bunch of guys on TV saying they agree with the "evidence".

The average person doesn't have access to any of the equipment it takes to test for alleles, DNA, etc... so all we have to go on is a bunch of pics in text books. There's no difference. You just choose to believe one and not the other.

Well not if you know people who work with DNA etc but since your quite happy to BELIEVE ALL artwork is based on fact want to tell me where this person is from .

Spam

a reply to: strangechristian777

And yet you couldn't bother to post even one picture...

I'm disappointed.

they were just large peoplea reply to: strangechristian777

Pics prooves nothing today. You need physical evidence.

If you photoshop a hudnred picks with gnomes and say that gnomes were alive to some people in certain countries they will certain belive it.

Btw, it's very unlikely that Nephilim could exist. Our planet has tons of geological and athmosperical conditions back then which didn't allowed it.

originally posted by: aorAki
a reply to: randyvs

Yes, and I try to 'deny ignorance'. I may not always succeed, and I certainly have my failings, but it is something I generally strive for. I certainly cannot speak for all members....

Haha, your Deny Ignorance religion, is not only boring, unlikely to be anything about denying ignorance but Embracing Chanted Mantras.

I love how much faith everyone has that the wool cannot be pulled over the eyes, it is best seen in the scientists who always believe they have access to all the tools, and STRATEGIES needed to find the truth.

They do not ever question why it is they have to change the beliefs every so often, they instead EMBRACE the IGNORANCE, and protect it stridently, never actually knowing that a huge massive piece of the pie is not being revealed.

How hard it is, for these and every other religion and creed, to admit that they are NOT PRIVY to that which they think is open and free, REAL SCIENCE is not coming to help them, it is being made SURE to never arise in the most key of areas.

Continue on in this useless attempts to pretend the system will allow all things to be found out, in the meantime when we find and remove the hindrances, we will not have time to explain anything to you, NOONE will.

originally posted by: Anubis259
a reply to: strangechristian777 You say that like scientists are all in on some grand conspiracy or something. Scientists are normal people who have a fascination with the universe from one angle or another, they want truth more than anyone. Evolution is proven and testable, and there is no other theory that comes close to disproving it. If you can prove otherwise then go ahead, there's a noble prize waiting for you.

Anyone in science who claims coverups do not occur on EVERY LEVEL, and often for what appears to be no good reason is a boldfaced liar.

It takes an amazing amount of belief from so-called Evolutionists, to believe the narrative they have, and chase it for all they are worth, people do not like being proven wrong and they attack, hide, and kill to keep the story how they saw it.

Pretty crazy how almost all of you just cannot wrap your heads around the idea that just about EVERYTHING system wise, has methods of making sure so-called "SCIENTISTS" neither report, or even mention the most important things, lest they DIE.

a reply to: peter vlar

Yes, and every piece of evidence you have seen, has had people handle it, frame it, and tell you how to go about thinking about it.

People lie, without even KNOWING they are doing so....

It is so obvious, that those as yourselves who believe things are easy to see now, that all will be revealed by following this process...

Are ensuring Humanity goes NOWHERE.

Luckily, some of us can actually envision what has happened, is happening, and will happen, in EVERY scenario.

The ones presented by your beloved all knowing undistortable on any level SCIENCE, lead to ..........nothing.

a reply to: ParasuvO

I'm so glad that not everybody is as ignorant of how science works as you seem to be, otherwise we'd still be living in the dark ages.

a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

I'd take the dark ages over his world view any day.

a reply to: ParasuvO

Then turn off your computer, sell your car,your TV , stop going to the grocery store, no more doctors, stop buying clothes and walk out into the wilderness and stRt from scratch because without science you wouldn't have anything that you seem to take for granted right now. Then you can spend for final weeks or months in the idyllic ignorance you want to cling to so badly. If you want to live in the dark ages, here's your chance.

If I'm so wrong then please tell me how a 30 ft tall human, for which there is absolutely no other evidence of anywhere in the world, left its footprint in granite millions of years ago. Please explain how ANY living creature could leave a footprint in molten lava. Science can't give answers so I eagerly await your brilliant analysis.

a reply to: peter vlar

I'm gonna leave it like this Peter! If there is any truth to
this hidden history of giants, it will be revealed soon.
There are enough people searching for such evidence and
according to the tapestry I wrote about here in? It should
happen.