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You dance around the #s you don't like which is, once again, less than 1% of abortions are due to incest or rape

a reply to: raedar

How is that anyone's responsibility but their own?

Agreed. Many people use PP to take care of their own medical needs.

Why are we going to shut them down and give people less options for their needs?

originally posted by: raedar

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: raedar
PS - less than 1% of abortions are due to rape/incest. So, 99% are due to the lack of value for human life.

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PPS: So, you're okay then with 7,334 murders a year then?

CDC Abortion Data

What are you talking about?

Are you for abortion in the case of incest or not?

You quoted a "statistic" from an organization known to lie at every turn that claimed that only 1% of annual abortions are resultant from incest.

There are, according to the CDC, 733,332 legal abortions per year on average. (This number doesn't include of course the 50% of fertilized eggs that are naturally aborted ... but I digress.)

1% of 733,332 is approximately 7334 "murders" per year. I'm asking, because of the circumstances, you're okay with that number?

You said "How are you going to provide care for the 4.5 MILLION people that PP helps a year?" - what are you talking about? You're trying to cover to many arguments and are making zero sense.

originally posted by: raedar
You dance around the #s you don't like which is, once again, less than 1% of abortions are due to incest or rape

Assuming that is a true and valid statistic, what are your thoughts in that 1% or less? Is abortion ok in that case?

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: raedar
You dance around the #s you don't like which is, once again, less than 1% of abortions are due to incest or rape

Assuming that is a true and valid statistic, what are your thoughts in that 1% or less? Is abortion ok in that case?

I've already said my opinion regarding that. There was also a link to the statistic.

a reply to: beezzer

Right back at you bunny; you're the master at telling other people what they believe after all!

Just a little dishonest when it comes to your own beliefs, but hey ... nobody's perfect, huh?

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: beezzer

Right back at you bunny; you're the master at telling other people what they believe after all!

A humbling complement from the master himself.

Just a little dishonest when it comes to your own beliefs, but hey ... nobody's perfect, huh?

No, I'm more honest than you'd probably appreciate. That's why pro-murder, pro-authoritarian, anti-freedom individuals, (perhaps like yourself?) get so irritated with humble wee little folks like myself.

a reply to: raedar

I've already said my opinion regarding that. There was also a link to the statistic.

Thank you. I went back and found your response.

Now I must ask, why is it ok in one situation and not another? Wrong is wrong, correct?

Murder is murder, correct?

Why is rape and incest any different? It's still a life.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: raedar

How is that anyone's responsibility but their own?

Agreed. Many people use PP to take care of their own medical needs.

Why are we going to shut them down and give people less options for their needs?

I think PP does a great job making contraception available, but we're not discussing that. You're trying to twist things, but I'm too alert for that. I'm speaking SPECIFICALLY about abortion.

Want to get back on topic now?

originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: IAMTAT

PP is getting a lot of heat lately, wonder what instigated it. Why is planned parenthood being targeted more than other organizations, because they are "the name" everyone associates with abortion?

well of course...it's the right-wing religious nutballs, that want everyone to obey their mythical god, or else they will destroy you in any way they can.

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: beezzer

Right back at you bunny; you're the master at telling other people what they believe after all!

A humbling complement from the master himself.

Just a little dishonest when it comes to your own beliefs, but hey ... nobody's perfect, huh?

No, I'm more honest than you'd probably appreciate. That's why pro-murder, pro-authoritarian, anti-freedom individuals, (perhaps like yourself?) get so irritated with humble wee little folks like myself.

Oh Mr. Beezzer, you're too kind altogether. I'm far too attached to facts and reasonable argumentation to approach your skill level.

Why would I not appreciate honesty? Because you (are again proving my point) that you want to assign who and what I am and what I believe?

Are you reading what you write before you post it?

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: raedar

I've already said my opinion regarding that. There was also a link to the statistic.

Thank you. I went back and found your response.

Now I must ask, why is it ok in one situation and not another? Wrong is wrong, correct?

Murder is murder, correct?

Why is rape and incest any different? It's still a life.

I never said I personally would have one. I never said I personally would not have one.

What I said is (once again) abortion is a moral issue and rape/incest is a moral dilemma. Both cases run the risk of genetic anomalies that may need to be considered for termination. But that is the tiniest fraction of the overall picture, but you both focus on it because you think I will submit suddenly to your free for all position.

I also never said I was anti-abortion. What I said is that nearly 50% of abortions are not the woman's first time. THAT is where things need to change.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Someone so adept at putting words in others mouths would (perhaps) find it confusing when others speak.

So I understand how you might not get it.

a reply to: raedar

Is abortion murder or not?

Would you answer?

a reply to: raedar

My apologies. I was not trying to twist things.

I confused you with another member that wishes to completely shut down PP.

Again, I apologize.

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Gryphon66

Someone so adept at putting words in others mouths would (perhaps) find it confusing when others speak.

So I understand how you might not get it.

I get "it" fine Beezzer. I read you time after time (like in your very last post) tell people what they believe, misappropriate their very clear words with those that suit your agenda, and outright misrepresent the truth.

There's nothing confusing about you; you're clear as crystal.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: raedar

Is abortion murder or not?

Would you answer?

Why would you so easily wear the title of murderer?

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Gryphon66

Someone so adept at putting words in others mouths would (perhaps) find it confusing when others speak.

So I understand how you might not get it.

I get "it" fine Beezzer. I read you time after time (like in your very last post) tell people what they believe, misappropriate their very clear words with those that suit your agenda, and outright misrepresent the truth.

There's nothing confusing about you; you're clear as crystal.

Why do you embrace murder?