NEW VIDEO: Another Planned Parenthood Doctor Haggling Price Of Baby Body Parts

PS - less than 1% of abortions are due to rape/incest. So, 99% are due to the lack of value for human life.

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originally posted by: introvert
Is this video similar to the previous video released, in that it is highly edited and butchered to leave out any context whatsoever?

It's from the same right-wing think tank, so I would bet that it is. Also, Breitbart is a propaganda outlet. Won't give them the web clicks if I cna help it.

Lol what other context could there be for selling baby body parts?

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: beezzer

What's your position on the death penalty? Beez?

What's your position on collateral war damage?

How about abortions in the case of incest and/or rape?

What about when the pregnant woman is in mortal danger?

What about when the fetus is discovered to have horrible disfigurements and/or disabilities?

Why do you need to know? Are you going to marginalise my moral stance on those issues by justifying murder?

What makes you the moral superior here?

Are you always right?

Have you ever been wrong?

Are your stances perfect and always correct?

Why do you want an authoritarian state?

Why do you hate freedom?

Why do you hate religions and religious people?

Why are you always so angry?

a reply to: Freenrgy2

Don't you find it odd that PP never denied what these "doctors" were saying, only their tone? (the first one).

There was no need to deny anything. They openly admit to providing "tissue" and must recover their costs.

Now they want to push this as a hit piece by a RW ant-abortion group that's been trying to get 'em for the last 10 years.

That's what this group is. They are a right wing anti-abortion group and this is a hit piece. What other purpose does it serve?

Well, either these folks said what they said or they didn't.

I have no doubt they said what they said. What's important is the context in which it was said. Can you agree?

Trying to weasel out and defend your leftist buddies because you want to claim "highly edited" videos. Really?

I have done no such thing. I said that I would wait and see what happens. The last video turned out to be highly edited and disingenuous.

Can you quote where I defended PP or any of my "leftist buddies" in this thread?

a reply to: introvert

When it comes to PP, any evidence to shut them down, I'm for 100%.

a reply to: introvert

I see an awful lot of knee-jerking by the lefties on this site who are ready to defend any left-wing organization tooth and nail.

a reply to: beezzer

Why can't you answer, Beez?

Answers to your questions:

Because, I wonder. You've taken a position on the issue, and I'd like to know the fullness of where you stand.

I am no one's moral superior. As opposed to what you and others claim for yourselves.

I am not always right.

I have been wrong.

No, I believe in constantly taking in new information and reviewing my "beliefs" based on evidence.

I don't want an authoritarian state. I have told you this many times. You ignore the truth because it doesn't fit your agenda of pigeon-holing anyone who disagrees with you.

I don't hate freedom, in fact, I work daily to help as many find freedom as I can

Religions are false and have caused unmeasurable human agony and suffering. I do not hate all religious people (For example, I admire you when you're not being a nit.)

I am not angry; I believe in the truth and I believe in engaging lies head-on.

Now, I've answered twice as many of your questions as I asked you: would you kindly answer mine?

originally posted by: Freenrgy2
a reply to: introvert

I see an awful lot of knee-jerking by the lefties on this site who are ready to defend any left-wing organization tooth and nail.

What do you see from the "righties"?

If you say anything but "the same thing" you either aren't paying attention, or you're misrepresenting the truth.

Politics is a universal human creation.

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: introvert
Is this video similar to the previous video released, in that it is highly edited and butchered to leave out any context whatsoever?

It's from the same right-wing think tank, so I would bet that it is. Also, Breitbart is a propaganda outlet. Won't give them the web clicks if I cna help it.

Lol what other context could there be for selling baby body parts?

Selling baby parts for profit has legal ramifications. Donating parts and the request of the mother and receiving compensation for costs does not.

Context is key.

originally posted by: raedar
PS - less than 1% of abortions are due to rape/incest. So, 99% are due to the lack of value for human life.

link

PPS: So, you're okay then with 7,334 murders a year then?

CDC Abortion Data

Anyone selling fetal tissue for profit, if convicted, should be penalized to the full extent of the law.

Those so gleefully clamoring for witch-hunts should be careful what they ask for.

a reply to: Gryphon66

If you don't know or understand my position on this topic, then you're either obtuse or have short-term memory issues or you're lying.

Abortion is the deliberate taking of an innocent life.

That is my stance.

It does not need 50 pages of subclauses and excuses.

You are either for it or you're against it.

I am against it because the unborn child is an individual human being. And I don't see any justification for its murder.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: raedar
PS - less than 1% of abortions are due to rape/incest. So, 99% are due to the lack of value for human life.

link

PPS: So, you're okay then with 7,334 murders a year then?

CDC Abortion Data

What are you talking about?

personally, i find the whole idea gruesome and unpleasant. slippery slopes etc...

a reply to: Freenrgy2

When it comes to PP, any evidence to shut them down, I'm for 100%.

I'm glad you stand on principle. I disagree though.

PP provides many much-needed services besides abortion and I think there would be many more bad to come out of shutting them down than good.

There is a much bigger picture to see here.

I see an awful lot of knee-jerking by the lefties on this site who are ready to defend any left-wing organization tooth and nail.

I haven't seen that but if you have, please go address that with them. I am not knee-jerking or parsing my words. I've been straight forward, honest and have stated that I would like to wait to form an opinion until this is vetted.

I am concerned that there are many on the right that are knee-jerking as well. They are not only demonizing PP without proper information to come to any conclusion, but they appear as to not care about truth or context one bit.

This is not about right, wrong or even truth and lies. This is about an agenda.

originally posted by: Freenrgy2
a reply to: introvert

When it comes to PP, any evidence to shut them down, I'm for 100%.

So, the 97% of Planned Parenthood's work for women's health and reproductive health in general you just want to throw away?

How are you going to provide care for the 4.5 MILLION people that PP helps a year?

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Freenrgy2
a reply to: introvert

When it comes to PP, any evidence to shut them down, I'm for 100%.

So, the 97% of Planned Parenthood's work for women's health and reproductive health in general you just want to throw away?

How are you going to provide care for the 4.5 MILLION people that PP helps a year?

How is that anyone's responsibility but their own?

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Gryphon66

If you don't know or understand my position on this topic, then you're either obtuse or have short-term memory issues or you're lying.

Abortion is the deliberate taking of an innocent life.

That is my stance.

It does not need 50 pages of subclauses and excuses.

You are either for it or you're against it.

I am against it because the unborn child is an individual human being. And I don't see any justification for its murder.

Right. So victims of incest and rape just have to bear it out to subscribe to YOUR moral standards then?

You condemn pregnant women have to death (and probably take the "unborn" with them anyway) because of YOUR moral standards?

Good to know. Thanks for your answers!

originally posted by: raedar

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Freenrgy2
a reply to: introvert

When it comes to PP, any evidence to shut them down, I'm for 100%.

So, the 97% of Planned Parenthood's work for women's health and reproductive health in general you just want to throw away?

How are you going to provide care for the 4.5 MILLION people that PP helps a year?

How is that anyone's responsibility but their own?

What, you don't believe in healthcare? Everyone should be their own doctors at home???

Your comment doesn't make a lot of sense.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Not a problem!

If you ever want to put more words in my mouth or make false assumptions just let me know!