Is The United States Of America Going TO Have Another Civil War? If So Over What?

Right now?

I dont think Americans have the balls for a revolution.



Nothing will happen unless the standard of living drasticaly drops.

If the lights go out and food actually becomes scarce maybe.


But then the might of the US goverment would unfortunatly crush it.

I think there will be occasional violent outbursts by nut-job radicals who think they Are god's gift to "freedom" (as they define it) and who seriously do expect "the awakened" to follow their lead.

Such outbreaks seem to be most likely (at the moment - times do change) from christian religious fundamentalists, right-wing militias, and race/homo-hate groups. Not saying there aren't others, but those do seem like the raving looney extremes right now.

But they are all so far from anything any "normal" person can believe in that they won't get any traction beyond maybe a few likeminded individuals supporting them on social media - think Waco, the Bundy standoff and similar sort of scale.

originally posted by: crazyewok
Right now?

I dont think Americans have the balls for a revolution.



Nothing will happen unless the standard of living drasticaly drops.

If the lights go out and food actually becomes scarce maybe.


But then the might of the US goverment would unfortunatly crush it.

I agree no guts no glory!

Was your entire reply seriously based on this comment?

originally posted by: Flesh699 It'll happen when the vast majority of freeloaders are forced to take drug tests to get their free income cards.

I might refer you to this article: 'What 7 States Discovered After Spending More Than $1 Million Drug Testing Welfare Recipients'

"...According to state data gathered by ThinkProgress, the seven states with existing programs — Arizona, Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and Utah — are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to ferret out very few drug users.

The statistics show that applicants actually test positive at a lower rate than the drug use of the general population. The national drug use rate is 9.4 percent. In these states, however, the rate of positive drug tests to total welfare applicants ranges from 0.002 percent to 8.3 percent, but all except one have a rate below 1 percent.

Meanwhile, they’ve collectively spent nearly $1 million on the effort, and millions more may have to be spent in coming years. Lawmakers who push these bills claim that they will cut down on costs by rooting out drug abusers while also helping to refer those users to treatment. But in reality, they come with few, if any, benefits."

Source - thinkprogress.org...

How about channeling your efforts into calling out bankers and politicians, the kind of people who are the real drain on our societies?

'Did Cocaine Use By Bankers Cause The Global Financial Crisis?'

"Dr Chris Luke, an A&E specialist based at Cork University Hospital, Ireland, who has studied the effects of coc aine on bankers, has stated that "prominent figures in financial and political circles made irrational decisions as a result of megalomania brought on by coc aine usage". He concludes that "people were making insane decisions and thinking they were 110% right … which led to the current chaos."

Greed, selfishness, ignorance and ruthlessness also played their part, of course, but I think it would be foolish not to see the role that the drug played in creating the bubble. Herd mentality, which thrives during times of uncertainty, is certainly much more explicable when you factor in the trembling insecurity and depleted discernment that go hand in hand with a coke habit."

Source - www.theguardian.com... aine-bankers-global-financial-crisis


'Corridors of powder: Drug Scandal At The Houses of Parliament After Traces Of Cocaine Are Found On Toilets Across Palace of Westminster'

"Evidence of coc aine use has been found inside toilets at the Houses of Parliament, including some just yards from MPs' offices. Traces of the class A drug were found in nine toilets throughout the Palace Of Westminster, the meeting place of the UK's political elite. The powder was detected in toilets used by guests at Parliament's bars, as well as cubicles a few yards away from MPs' offices - areas where members of the public are restricted from going.

...In 2005 a German television station found traces of coc aine in 41 of 46 lavatories tested at the European Parliament in Brussels."

Source - www.dailymail.co.uk... aine-toilets-Palace-Westminster.html

Just to try and make my point:


[UK] 'Austerity Cuts Will Bite Even Harder In 2015 – Another £12bn Will Go'

"...Four more years of austerity is “a price that works for our country”, Osborne said as he outlined his strategy. The Institute for Fiscal Studies responded by warning that “colossal” cuts to the state would take total government spending to its lowest level as a proportion of national income since before the second world war. By the end of the process, “the role and shape of the state will have changed beyond recognition”, the think tank said. So far, £35bn has been cut; the plan is to cut a further £55bn by 2019.

...The National Audit Office has warned that more than half of councils currently risk falling into serious financial crisis before the end of the decade. Some may struggle to provide services that they are legally obliged to offer, and this may become apparent in 2015 with more legal action by service users."

Source - www.theguardian.com...


'David Cameron Backs MPs’ 10% Pay Rise As ‘The Rate For The Job’

"David Cameron performed a surprising U-turn last night and claimed that MPs should accept a £7,000 pay rise in the face of opposition from the public. The prime minister said on Thursday night that the 10% pay increase was “the rate for the job” despite the rest of the public sector being capped at 1% for another four years. His bold position, a reversal of his past statements that the rise is unacceptable, will give cover to many Tory MPs who wish to keep the cash.

...It follows the decision on Thursday morning by the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (Ipsa) to confirm that MPs’ pay should increase from £67,000 to £74,000 a year and be backdated to May."

Source - www.theguardian.com...

Just my dos centavos, but it's not the poor that are the problem here, it's the rich psychopaths that are running the asylum.

edit on 28/12/12 by MerkabaTribeEntity because: Fix links

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

I think a civil war will happen over race or the tge lower class vs "elite".

I think our country is moving towards idiocrazy and we need to change course before a civil war does break out and further divide people.

Here is someone who claimed to want to buy guns to fight the revolution comming and was arrested by under cover agents. . . .

www.policeone.com...
Anti-cop activist arrested in Mont. after buying guns for 'revolution'

BILLINGS, Mont. — Jurors on Thursday convicted an anti-government activist on firearms charges after authorities said he sought out high-powered weaponry for a coming "second American revolution."

a reply to: Flesh699

Do some research regarding how much your employer believes it is entitled to.

Corporations like WalMart are not going to complain about people reaping the benefit of the funny money they are handed unless the funny money handouts stop.

Did you ever hear a corporation complaining about the funny money those people are using being any less valuable than anyone esle's?, You won't because the whole system is a scam.

And as another poster pointed out, your post came across as quite ignorant.

You must consider the fact that if it were not a law that your employer pays you money, you probably would not be paid at all in anything but a barracks type structure out behind or nearby the store to dwell in while you are not working on the schedule and given food that was going out of date to eat instead of ending up in the dumpster or donated to charity.

Your employer would claim everything you take from it resembling pay as a business expense toward a deduction at the end of the tax year, when in fact they keep you basically as a slave who really doesn't gain any economic mobility out of the labor you do.

Things can get worse than they are now, you really should keep some of those ignorant sounding comments to yourself.

Everything isn't the fault of those you consider lesser than yourself.

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

What if the standard of living very gradually drops and the standard of entertainment becomes more intense?.

Like lots of good stuff to watch on TV and a fridge full of cheap beer to keep you from opening your eyes.

There will be a revolution only when people no longer have distractions to keep them from realizing how truly miserable they are, and it will probably last about 8 minutes between commercials.

originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner
a reply to: FormOfTheLord

What if the standard of living very gradually drops and the standard of entertainment becomes more intense?.

Like lots of good stuff to watch on TV and a fridge full of cheap beer to keep you from opening your eyes.

There will be a revolution only when people no longer have distractions to keep them from realizing how truly miserable they are, and it will probably last about 8 minutes between commercials.

Very true! If there was an eevent like a solar flare that knocked out the grid that may get people off the TV long enough to think about thier standard of living. . . . .That is until they are given TV again!

a reply to: Krazysh0t

It's OK you still don't understand we would win as citizens,due to having more experts in all fields,the most experience and of course LOYALTY to the Republic.
ALL the fancy aircraft, tanks and any other heavty weapon require logistics and THAT is how you begin to kill them indirectly. The USAF can't stop a dedicated US style assault on their Tarmacs.
Not to mention who will actually crew them? Cherries who have NO idea how to deal with the nasty pros who were trained LONG before them and recent Vets as well.

I believe in the event of an EMP or a nuclear strike the people would come together not prey on one another ...in fact without police being an assh##e would very likely be fatal.

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

It will be all about Washington's overreach, being anymore tyrannical than they are now. Americans who pay attention are pissed, well armed and ready to explode. Obama and Hillary need to be locked up in a Coliseum and tore apart by Hyena's. Poetic being the Jackals they are.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

The Zombie assault on Israel is pretty much what any base or Washington D.C. command areas would look like should Americans say enough is enough and seek out the Tyrants.

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
I think our country is moving towards idiocrazy and we need to change course before a civil war does break out and further divide people.

It has nothing to do with that, the majority of us are just furious at D.C. for all the Socialist PC crap they are forcing on us Americans while they trample on the Constitution and Bill of Rights. The illegal wars and the fact they are all bought and so corrupt to the core is enough for most. Then the fact they support Islam while Christians are dying is just icing on the cake. Gods vengeance will be brought down upon them soon.

The United States Of America Going TO Have Another Civil War? If So Over What?

They will never be a civil war in the US, the first shot fired in a civil war will only usher in UN peacekeepers then it will go to an insurrection. The world governments don't want the US's nukes getting in the wrong hands. Domestic terrorists, insurgents, anti government protesters will have a new name.


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originally posted by: Patriotsrevenge
a reply to: FormOfTheLord

It will be all about Washington's overreach, being anymore tyrannical than they are now. Americans who pay attention are pissed, well armed and ready to explode. Obama and Hillary need to be locked up in a Coliseum and tore apart by Hyena's. Poetic being the Jackals they are.

Well there is alot more gun regulation being ushered in as well as alot of arrests for those who are thinking about revolting. So I wonder if this is the governments way of keeping people in order, like giving someone enough rope to hang themselves. You can have guns just not too many, you have freedom of speech just dont say the wrong things. . . . .

A civil war is just propaganda perpetually pumped out by other government's to breed paranoia in the government and people.

The majority is far to comfortable and fed to war.

a reply to: Patriotsrevenge

I HIGHLY accurate snipers,seasoned SF and rangers who will force multiply,BADASS line dogs ad infinitum.
Who would like to be in front of the largest guerilla force ever known to walk the planet?