Jade Helm 15 Begins Tomorrow: Thoughts and Predictions

Tomorrow, the highly polarizing Military Exercise "Jade Helm 15" starts in several U.S. States.

The topic of Jade Helm had been one of consternation since it was announced, with areas of the U.S. being designated as "Hostile", others "Friendly", and some "Neutral" either leaning hostile or friendly.


Many have said the closings of Wal-Marts around the country for "plumbing" issues is part of this exercise.



The Texas State Guard has been activated to monitor the exercises in Texas.

Some have speculated that an Artificial Intelligence will be taking command of the exercises.

There have been numerous youtube videos showing train loads of military hardware moving around the CONUS in preparation for Jade Helm.




It's safe to say, that this event is making a LOT of people talk, theorize, and speculate. But we here at ATS are a discerning bunch, right? What say you about this event which is set to start in less than 24 hours?

Will Martial Law be declared?
Will Skynet Activate and usher in Judgement Day?
Will you be sent to a FEMA camp hidden inside a Wal-Mart?
Will Texas reject the exercises and secede?

I want to know your thoughts on this, and give me your predictions.

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

Welp.

I'm not surprised that the US military is starting to consider having to be deployed on home soil.

Not that I agree with that, but military wisdom is being prepared for everything. Whether or not this is a drill for something else, I have no idea.

But I can see why they are doing it.

~Tenth

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

Why do you think it's highly polarizing?

One side believes it's a constitutional breech based on the broad outline of what's been reported and the other side is whistling in the dark.

a reply to: tothetenthpower

I could see the logic in training to combat forces on U.S. soil. After all, it's just good policy to be prepared for every eventuality.

However, there are those who insist that this will be the opening salvo in a war on U.S. Citizens. It's a scary prospect. I'm not military gal so I don't know for certain, but with the Texas State Guard being deployed to monitor the exercise, is it beyond the realm of possibility that a mistake will happen and an ACTUAL skirmish could break out?

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

It will start, it will happen, and they will pack up, leave, debrief, and post their gratitude and thanks to the public for cooperation, just like all other military exercises.

Also, after re-watching that video, the second train that goes by is pulled by NS loco's, the military have their OWN armored loco's for the real deal, why would they contract out to a unionized private company, which is highly public as well like NS?

Death and Destruction!

Actually, I kind of like the AI angle on this. It would be a really interesting thing if AI were used for the operation and it somehow failed and civilians were killed. I would wonder how that would be spun in the media.

If AI, doesn't this seem eerily familiar to the Terminator theme? What if AI takes over control, somehow believes it is a real exercise and is able to deploy nukes.....SKYNET is real!

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

I've really never been afraid of the Army being used against citizens, because I highly doubt that most US Soldiers would agree to open fire on US soil, towards US Citizens.

You'd end up with a lot of commanders shot in the back if you ask me. Sure, some would most certainly follow orders, but at the end of the day, there would be far more of us then them.

And even if that happened, and let's say 50% of the military resigned, they would end up fighting against their own. It's just not a very likely scenario IMO.

~Tenth

Honestly, at this point, nothing will surprise me. It's either a training exercise like they've claimed all along....Or we are about to see TSHF on a large scale. Either way, it's coming and we'll just have to wait and see.

Does anyone know if they're even supposed to be using real ammunition?

The AI supposedly creates holographic battlefield elements, so wouldn't the soldiers need to be wearing special equipment on their helmets, thus the "Jade Helm" name, to be able to even see the imaginary, holographic enemies?

Which would mean perhaps .. they'd be using laser tag style weapons?

Sounds scary. Not.

More like a live action video game

originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: ScientificRailgun

Welp.

I'm not surprised that the US military is starting to consider having to be deployed on home soil.

Not that I agree with that, but military wisdom is being prepared for everything. Whether or not this is a drill for something else, I have no idea.

But I can see why they are doing it.

~Tenth

In reality the US has trained and always will train on US soil. But I know no one is interested in an actual facts while all the superfluous speculation is floating around .

a reply to: tothetenthpower

This makes sense to me as well. Ask any US Soldier if they would follow orders and shoot their own citizens and 90% of the time the answer is no.

a reply to: Greathouse

Oh I know they have, I just meant on such a large scale involving so many different agencies, troops and states.

~Tenth

Personally I think this is grooming the public to get used to seeing armed forces used in a domestic capacity. Urban asymmetric warfare is the battle ground of today, I'm definitely of the belief that they are trying to prepare people for the proverbial lockdown that may or may not ever happen (insert for x reason here).

Whether thats for a future "terrorist" situation, an actual doomsday event, or just preparedness is anyones guess at this point.

a reply to: tothetenthpower

I note that the usual map displayed here and elsewhere still do not show all of the states. Except for the small sliver of Alabama that comes to the coast, some official announcements and maps had the entire gulf coast covered.

To me, in Bastrop, that only means one thing (if anything), and that is a general, low level drill for the future possibility of an influx of illegals from the collapse of Mexico. Bear in mind--that at such a time, that classification would be changed by TPTB from that as true "illegals" to that of "refugees." The entire south would suffer from the influx as there would be no effort to repel them but to merely to try to control the situation. In other words, the south would be sacrificed for "humanitarian reasons."

I see no other reason to perform this drill at this place and time. They are about as close to the border as they dare get without showing their hand. For my area, Ft. Hood is right up I-35. It is the largest US Army base in the world with thousands of acres over which they can train with the most advanced equipment that the Army has, and they want to play around in my neighborhood with a few humvees and commo equipment?

In this day and age, do we really need all that ground transportation? Don't we just fight wars with drones now?

Only reason I can imagine the need anymore for tanks and such is for a true ground war with people, one on one, so to speak. I imagine some sort of economic collapse will be the case.

I've served a career in the US Military as a combatant. Never (and I repeat never) did we perform these types of drills in a random city or town. It was always done on a military base locally or an allied facility abroad.

Be prepared folks!

As a side note, I think the "walmart" closing rabble is funny. 4,562 walmarts in the US....and 5 in "bfe" no-wheres-ville close down.

originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: Greathouse

Oh I know they have, I just meant on such a large scale involving so many different agencies, troops and states.

~Tenth

That's my problem with this whole scare scenario. It's not a lot of troops it's 1200 troops spread out over seven states . If you start seeing Battalion , regiment or division size forces on the move then it is time to worry.

originally posted by: Greathouse

originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: Greathouse

Oh I know they have, I just meant on such a large scale involving so many different agencies, troops and states.

~Tenth

That's my problem with this whole scare scenario. It's not a lot of troops it's 1200 troops spread out over seven states . If you start seeing Battalion , regiment or division size forces on the move then it is time to worry.

You start becoming concerned when they show an unusual interest in a particular place and how they approach showing that interest. If you blow it off as nothing, you've swallowed the hook exactly as planned. I favor the old Zen motto, "Be prepared for anything. Expect nothing"

originally posted by: Aliensun

originally posted by: Greathouse

originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: Greathouse

Oh I know they have, I just meant on such a large scale involving so many different agencies, troops and states.

~Tenth

That's my problem with this whole scare scenario. It's not a lot of troops it's 1200 troops spread out over seven states . If you start seeing Battalion , regiment or division size forces on the move then it is time to worry.

You start becoming concerned when they show an unusual interest in a particular place and how they approach showing that interest. If you blow it off as nothing, you've swallowed the hook exactly as planned. I favor the old Zen motto, "Be prepared for anything. Expect nothing"

I'm always prepared in vigilant anybody that follows my post on this site knows that . But I refused to let fear, hype and doom porn override common sense .