Iran nuclear deal reached

a reply to: notmyrealname

In fact, Iran has the second largest Jewish population in the Middle East, second only to Israel.

originally posted by: Midnight4444
www.bbc.com...

According to the BBC, Iran has reached a deal to end sanctions and monitor (or not) its nuclear program.
Why anyone thinks this is going to work, is beyond me.

Aren't the sanctions in place because they didn't honor previous agreements? (Apparently not the case, thanks!)

Ah well, maybe we can sell them some weapons now, lord knows we need the economic boost. And if adding their petroleum products to the world market doesn't lower my gas prices nothing will.

The sanctions are in place because they are not part of the big banking cartel just like all of the countries in the supposed axis of evil stupidity. Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran were slated for change (read war) because they potentially upset the USD's reserve status. It really is just that simple.

a reply to: enlightenedservant

Yes!! I knew someone was out there not just drinking the Coolaid!!

±Thank you, I will now celebrate by having a drink.

originally posted by: Midnight4444
a reply to: Agit8dChop

I don't know if one should ever fully trust a theocracy, but the U.S. has allied with some truly terrible governments and leaders in the past. The folks in Iran wouldn't even make the top ten list.

There will be repercussions though, I'm sure the Israelis have their own opinion on the matter and they may take matters into their own hands if they feel pressed.

Ultimately, I think it is worth the risk, Iran is an educated society and can't be permanently stopped from producing power plants and Weapons without a massive military effort.

Who even talking allies here?


USA has basicaly said they will lift some sanctions and not bomb them.

Thats a far far cry from being allies.


Honnestly you americans need to learn there is 50 shades of diplomacy between WAR RAR RAR RAR and allies.

They will do................ If inspections get close to uncovering what they've been up tp and are still up to. It's a legalised trap to take out Iran. Just watch and see................

a reply to: notmyrealname

You're welcome

Many people forget that the US & Iran had fairly good relations when Rafsanjani was their President. They also forget Iran worked with the US right after 9/11 against the Taliban, and the "Green Revolution", where the Iranian citizens tried to get the clerics to step down.

I'm not from Iran so it's not up to me to decide what's best for them domestically. But I know enough to know that Iran is a beautiful country with many good people. It never made sense to me that so many people can hate their entire population because of a misquote from their former President Ahmadinejad.

a reply to: gortex

Netanyahu: Iran nuclear deal is bad mistake of historic proportions

Poor Bibi, what is he going to warmonger against now ?
I guess he either consider doing the Job himself now, or change allegiance with his 'Muslim partners' ... Wait and see.

originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
a reply to: gortex

Netanyahu: Iran nuclear deal is bad mistake of historic proportions

Poor Bibi, what is he going to warmonger against now ?
I guess he either consider doing the Job himself now, or change allegiance with his 'Muslim partners' ... Wait and see.

Bibi's in on it. His bluster is all for show. It's all a trap to snare Iran through inspections etc. The bombs will still fall, legally, when Iran trips up. Iran is going to be Iraqified just like the rest of the ME

The best part of this so far is Biden standing at Obama's shoulder staring into the camera. And occasionally casting a glance at Obama before going back to staring into the camera.

What are you doooooooing, Joe?!?

Seriously though, why is he there?

What happens when the Republicans get back into power.........Possibly very soon? Things change very fast

Bibi is probably talking to his ISIS buddies right now and issuing them orders to start hitting Iran.

He must be ready to bust a blood vessel in rage.... well we can all hope for an aneurysm at least!

originally posted by: Britguy
Bibi is probably talking to his ISIS buddies right now and issuing them orders to start hitting Iran.

He must be ready to bust a blood vessel in rage.... well we can all hope for an aneurysm at least!

There will be some reponse from Irsael for sure. Just what?

Anyway there's 160 pages in this agreement that nobody has read yet so let's see the devil in the detail please.

a reply to: Agit8dChop

Think about it another way. If the U.S/U.K invade ISIS held territory the oil price will rise.

If Iran crosses the line this time after an agreement, they will suffer the consequences.
The balls in their court.

originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: Midnight4444

It is all part of the plan . Enemy of my enemy is my friend kind of thing . The oil is a big bonus .

The oil surplus is killing Canada. They're already talking recession, I've heard them say this could push it down to $40 a barrel.

Iran has blocked UN inspections
www.wsj.com...

"Iran’s government continues to stonewall United Nations weapons inspectors, complicating the Obama administration’s effort to forge a nuclear agreement with Tehran by a late-November deadline, according to U.S. and U.N. officials.

The U.S. and the European Union have said Iran’s cooperation with the U.N. in addressing evidence that Tehran conducted studies in the past on the development of atomic weapons is crucial to reaching a broader accord on the future of the Iranian nuclear program."

Iran has dealt from bad faith
www.weeklystandard.com...
"Experience shows that unless Iran violates the deal egregiously, the temptation will be to ignore it. For instance, Iran got away with selling more oil than it should have under the interim agreement. More ominously, Tehran repeatedly pushed the envelope on technical aspects of the agreement—such as caps on its uranium stockpile—and got away with it. The Obama administration and other Western powers have so much invested in their diplomatic efforts that they’ll deny such violations ever occurred."

Iran is a sponsor of terrorism
"Every other year, the State Department produces a list of terrorist states, states that sponsor terrorism and use it as a political tool. [The State Department has] done this since at least the middle-1990s. ... And every year, Iran has been identified as the single most important state sponsor of terrorism in the world.
Iran has, in a way that is almost qualitatively different from any entity on earth except maybe the Palestinian Authority, used terror as a conscious tool of state policy. And the United States has said so again and again and again. It hasn't always said so from a State of the Union [address]. [It] said so in print, and it said so through its actions. The United States maintains sanctions against Iran because it recognizes Iran, and has recognized Iran, for a long time as a terror-sponsoring state." David Frum

the west does not have a good record of holding Iran accountable.

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
Bibi's in on it. His bluster is all for show. It's all a trap to snare Iran through inspections etc. The bombs will still fall, legally, when Iran trips up.

Sarcasm : I personally suggest Mr Mordechai Vanunu as nuclear inspector. A jewish individual, with experience, when it comes to find nukes where there are not supposed to be.

originally posted by: ufoorbhunterIran is going to be Iraqified just like the rest of the ME

More like to other way around imo ... Iraq was an artificial construction dating back to colonialist era. The fall of Sadam will ultimately lead Iraq to the same scenario as former Yugoslavia.

a reply to: Shamrock6

Seriously though, why is he there?

The same reason Gore was there.

Just needed someone who doesn't do much, or ask too many questions.

originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke

More like to other way around imo ... Iraq was an artificial construction dating back to colonialist era. The fall of Sadam will ultimately lead Iraq to the same scenario as former Yugoslavia.

Iran is in the same boat. It is also teeming with different groups. The Arabs can be used to stir up ISIS in Iran, Kurds there too in millions, lots of opportunities for outside influences to forment a Yugo style scenario.

originally posted by: Shamrock6
What are you doooooooing, Joe?!?

Seriously though, why is he there?

'Biden 2016: The Alternative to Hillary'
he has supporters, he does.
wouldn't be surprised to see anti-Hillary leaks from the Obama admin to diminish her. and leaks that suggest 'Joe is and has been doing _____ behind the scenes'.
all depends on how pissed O is at H.

Basically, the White House was so desperate for a deal they accepted a "Republican compromise." Iran gets everything it wants now and the Democrats get to say they will get some of the things they want later on, years down the road, maybe, if Iran is feeling generous and the leadership still decides to acknowledge at that time.