Confederate Flag Sales Up 1,400% to 2,000%

a reply to: AbstractDreamz

It's quite simple. People are fed up with the whole idea of banning stuff

Nobody is banning stuff. You can walk down the street wearing a Nazi flag for all I care. Just don't expect your freedom of speech to be protected from criticism and reaction. Freedom is a two way street. There's nothing PC about it.

Strangely enough, democrats put the flag up and republicans took it down, but you'll never hear about that.

You don't know your history do you? There was such a thing as Dixie democrats in the 60's. This was the time when the Democratic party was predominantly white and conservative. It was after the signing of the civil rights act in the mid 60's that all them proud white dixie crats switched over to the Republican party (including Reagan) and Republicans vice versa.

a reply to: beezzer

But neither guns or the flag are banned...

a reply to: rockintitz

Nope just took the shooting for the state to actually do something about it.

The confederate flag has always been seen as what if seen as today, we are just talking about it more because of the shooting.

What a surprise !!!!

This is the 500th thread in the last two days on the Confederate flag. And I haven't noticed one member that changed their opinion ????




Lol

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: rockintitz

Nope just took the shooting for the state to actually do something about it.

The confederate flag has always been seen as what if seen as today, we are just talking about it more because of the shooting.

So it obviously wasn't a big deal beforehand, right?

a reply to: Southern Guardian

Sorry, I get confused when the parties changed. It is during Lincoln sometimes, during Eisenhower sometimes, during JFK sometimes...the fact is they never really changed, just that liberals try to rewrite history to cover their own racist history..i often hear how Goldwater was a racist and how LBJ was so good to minorities, yet i never hear liberals mention this....
"Ill have these 'n-word's voting democrat for the next 50 years."

We can all agree that was after the parties switched though, right? Btw, who's Robert Byrd?

a reply to: AbstractDreamz

Yeah, seems they change it a lot.

To fit the program, I guess.

And yeah, LBJ did say the above, but I read he said 100 years( some sources say 200 years.)

originally posted by: Maverick1
a reply to: AbstractDreamz

Yeah, seems they change it a lot.

To fit the program, I guess.

And yeah, LBJ did say the above, but I read he said 100 years( some sources say 200 years.)

Dixiecrats did exist, that's true, but the left labels them as far right voters. It's simply not true, they were Robert Byrd democrats.

Best way to stick it to the man is buy a flag made in china.

It's sad that Americans are accepting of Nazi flags being flown just to defend the flag of a nation that you know... Seceded from the United States?

Just sad. And the whole "anti-PC" movement is getting more ridiculous by the day.

They're doing it to piss liberals/crybabies off, which I have no problem with.

The store sold 37 Confederate battle flags in 2013. In the last three weeks, Stallings said sales have nearly tripled last year’s totals.

www.wral.com...

That would be nearly 300%, not 2,000%. Where did the 2,000% come from?

What's 2,000% of 0?

a reply to: Kangaruex4Ewe

People don't like being told what to do or when to do it period. Especially tax paying adults. I know a lot of folks who are doing it on principle alone... Many others see this as a turning point where history may well be rewritten to a kinder, more gentle version leaving out anything that may not be PC enough for the masses.

Who is telling people what to do and what does it have to do with paying taxes?

It's frankly disgusting just how willfully ignorant and petulant right wingers are choosing to be in order to show their tribal affiliation. Do you think you're rebelling against political correctness? Is that what the pro-segregationist state legislatures were doing when they embraced and re-popularized the "Southern Cross" and other Confederate symbolism and motifs in the Civil Rights era? Is that why the States' Rights Democratic Party aka "Dixiecrats" — a political party formed expressly around a pro-segregationist platform — raised a Confederate battle flag over their 1948 convention? What laudable principles were behind the adoption of a new Georgia state flag in 1956 to include the "Southern Cross?"

No. They wanted to evoke an emotional connection to a political state formed to preserve the institution of slavery for the purposes of once again rallying white southerners against the inevitable push by the rest of the country to grant black people fundamental civil rights. There's no great mystery, no amount of after the fact justifications and insanely delusional revisionist rhetoric is going to change historical realities.

So yea, you think you're rebelling against political correctness? Sadly, the joke is on you because you're actions are wholly guided by the Right's political correctness and the result is that you've aligned yourself with the agendas of dead racists.

Congratulations.

a reply to: AbstractDreamz

You're demonstrating the schizophrenia of modern conservative thought. On the one hand, the GOP is anxious to point out completely irrelevant crap such as the fact that Lincoln was a Republican as though that says something about the modern GOP's positions in regards to civil rights and equality. On the other hand, conservatives are collectively butthurt that a Confederate battle flag has been removed from the South Carolina State House grounds despite the fact that South Carolina was the very first of the states to secede from the union in a direct response to the election of Abraham Lincoln.

You're right about one thing though, you do get confused. You can go on about Robert Byrd and the fact that LBJ had a fondness for saying the n-word all you want but it's not going to somehow magically change the fact that in 2016, the overwhelming majority of bigots who vote are going to be voting Republican and every sane person knows this.

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Sremmos80

Why do you think gun sales increase when a democrat is in office?

Stupidity mainly....and in this case not of the politicians!!

a reply to: wayforward

It seems a lot of people just don't understand what the debate is actually about. Too many people (as we can see on this very forum) seem to think this flag is being banned across the US, when that's clearly bs. This is about one flag being flown on state government grounds, and how that is no longer acceptable to the public being represented by that government.

No one else is being prevented from displaying it, flying it, wearing, worshiping it, selling it or buying it.

Private companies are making the business decision to stop selling it, as they are within their rights to do so as a private business. States are looking at how this is woven into their government symbols and uses, and they are right to do so.

Once again, for those who don't seem to want to understand this issue and would rather rail against an imagined erosion of their freedoms where none exists, you are not being prevented from selling it, buying it, flying it, displaying it, wearing it... your freedoms and rights are not affected in any way, and neither is your appreciation of its historical significance.

originally posted by: rockintitz

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: rockintitz

Nope just took the shooting for the state to actually do something about it.

The confederate flag has always been seen as what if seen as today, we are just talking about it more because of the shooting.

So it obviously wasn't a big deal beforehand, right?

It's the same with plenty of issues angering the public, when you have something like this happen people realize that actually they have a lot of common support throughout their society, so they make the decision to change it.

It was always a problem, to claim otherwise is just willful ignorance. We all know this has been a symbol of racism, bigotry and violence for decades, that's WHY IT WAS PUT THERE. The only difference is that people now know that the majority agree it has to go, so they made that happen.

a reply to: Greathouse

That seems to be because the right wingers on here cannot argue against the fact that this was flying on government grounds, and that is unacceptable for a government serving all their public.
Neither can they argue against the fact that the flag has not actually been banned.
Neither can they argue against the reality that the people made this choice through democratic peaceful protest and the government made that decision.
Neither can they argue against the fact that the businesses can make their own decisions about what they will or will not sell.

The right wing in this debate have nothing to claim, so they rant about "political correctness" in general, as usual.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
Huh strange, I guess all those people that cared so much about this flag so much before hand never cared enough to actually buy the damn thing?

They probably still don't care for the flag. A lot of hose purchases are a response to, and resistance of, being told not to and that it displeases a lot of politicians. The flag purchases are a big "F-you" to what they perceive as "the man.".

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: AbstractDreamz

You're demonstrating the schizophrenia of modern conservative thought. On the one hand, the GOP is anxious to point out completely irrelevant crap such as the fact that Lincoln was a Republican as though that says something about the modern GOP's positions in regards to civil rights and equality. On the other hand, conservatives are collectively butthurt that a Confederate battle flag has been removed from the South Carolina State House grounds despite the fact that South Carolina was the very first of the states to secede from the union in a direct response to the election of Abraham Lincoln.

You're right about one thing though, you do get confused. You can go on about Robert Byrd and the fact that LBJ had a fondness for saying the n-word all you want but it's not going to somehow magically change the fact that in 2016, the overwhelming majority of bigots who vote are going to be voting Republican and every sane person knows this.

No. A lot of bigots vote Democrat, for example Jessie "Hymietown" Jackson--they are just the type of bigot you agree with. The left cries racism at everything but, the fact of the matter is, most conservative positions are not based on racism, not matter how you want to paint it that way.