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Ernie Kellerstrass had Bill Moore, Jaime Shandera, Hal Puthoff, Col. John Alexander … Scott Jones (assistant for Senator Pell), and me over to his house in Beavercreek, OH (suburb of Dayton, OH) for dinner. … During the dinner and afterwards many of the conversations went non-stop involving such topics as Area 51 in Nevada where purportedly there was an ET base according to Ernie. … So went the conversations in the ensuing months and years…
From 1990 through 1997, Azadehdel filed 52 FOIA requests (under the pseudonym Armen Victorian) with Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico, where Alexander led the US government's "non- lethal" weapons research effort.
Alexander strenuously fought them, seeking intervention from DOD in Washington to prevent release of some records. Some correspondence related to Alexander's resistance has been released by DOE, other parts - some of which appear to be genuine - can be found on the internet. The battle also played out in articles - by both parties - on listservers and in outlets such as Lobster Magazine and other conspiracy and UFO theory media.
To establish the ATP group we decided on certain rules. At that point in time the Freedom of Information Act, or FOIA, was in full swing and UFO inquiries proliferated. It was stated by government administrators tasked with responding that the congressional staffers who wrote the FOIA would never have guessed that so many UFO requests would be filed to the point where they actually clogged the declassification system. To legally avoid answering any UFO FOIA requests, I adopted the term advanced theoretical physics, assuming no one would make the connection and request ATP reports. Further, there were no written documents kept within U.S. Government agencies. One of the rules was that there were no written reports to be kept by anyone, though it now appears that the rule may have been violated by one or more of the defense contractors who participated. As the person responsible for conducting the sessions, I never wrote any reports before or after meetings.”
“… Klass is totally wrong. (Nothing new for Phil.) I had absolutely no imput into the demise of The Coalition and was unaware they disbanded until after the fact. Although an institute has been under consideration for many months, as far as I know, it was Bigelow's intent to continue funding the others. From what little I have heard, the Coalition members have no understanding of the 'golden rule'. I'm sure you know: He who has the gold, makes the rules. They just shot the goose that laid the golden egg, something that Victoria (my wife) predicted more than a year ago.”
HARRIER(?): Dale Graff, UFO-related technology specialist (alleged by Smith, Guiley, etc. to be a genuine DIA "Dark Side" bad-boy -B:.B:.) reported by Dan Smith (cf. infra) to be head of the "military" UFO Working Group at Los Alamos National Laboratory; rumored to be involved in psychotronic and ESP programs at Los Alamos; formerly was contracts overseer for the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base; then was chief of the DIA's Defense Technology/Special Programs department, before reportedly being fired by the DIA. Currently Graff is reported to be in contact with the human designate who communicates with an extraterrestrial residing near Washington, DC in a subterranean facility.
Dale Graff (Raven) - Performed contract oversight for the DIA at Wright Patterson AFB. Most recently, Graff was the chief of the DIA's Defense Technology/Special department. Rumored to be an abductee, and involved in "black magic" and psychotronic programs at Los Alamos, but fired recently by DIA. Smith says that Graff is the head of the "military" UFO working group at Los Alamos.
Ernie Kellerstraus (Hawk) - While working at Wright Patterson AFB in the '70s, he along with Bob Collins and Dale Graff are said to have supplied information to William Moore. Kellerstraus is rumored to have lived with an alien for a while (?), and is probably the source for the story concerning the aliens' preference for "strawberry ice cream".
CHICKADEE: Cmdr. C.B. Scott Jones, Ph.D., USN (Ret.), former officer with the Office of Naval Intelligence and other Agencies; with 30 years service in U.S. Intelligence overseas; involved in government research and development projects for the Defense Nuclear Agency (DNA), Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), the Army Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM) and other organizations; former Senate aide to Sen. Claiborne Pell, who has had a long-standing interest in UFOs and the paranormal, *and has tried to get Congressional Hearings held on UFOs; President, Human Potential Foundation; and "point-man" for Laurence Rockefeller on UFO matters, currently tasked to contact world leaders concerning upcoming public announcements of UFO/ET reality; recently convened the May, 1995 Washington, D.C. "When Cosmic Cultures Meet International Conference".
Jones served from 1985 to 1991 as aide to the late Sen. Claiborne Pell, who had a long-standing interest in UFOs and the paranormal. (Pell tried to get Congressional Hearings held on UFOs.). With Pell, Jones co-founded the Human Potential Foundation. He served as "point-man" for Laurence Rockefeller on UFO matters. His Rockefeller-sponsored, 2-year project, “When Cosmic Cultures Meet,” was presented at an international conference in Washington, DC, in 1995. [
Ernie Kellerstrass had Bill Moore, Jaime Shandera, Hal Puthoff, Col. John Alexander … Scott Jones (assistant for Senator Pell), and me over to his house in Beavercreek, OH (suburb of Dayton, OH) for dinner. … During the dinner and afterwards many of the conversations went non-stop involving such topics as Area 51 in Nevada where purportedly there was an ET base according to Ernie. … So went the conversations in the ensuing months and years…
The author is currently involved in global peace work that involves extraterrestrial cultures. Details of this work may be seen at www.peaceroom.com. The specific programs are Plan C that promotes a pre-disclosure global dialogue about the anticipated consequences of formal disclosure of Earth/Extraterrestrial contact, and the Outer Space Security and Development Treaty.
"Frankly, I do not have any direct knowledge that there is any inside govemment information. I don't consider this to be a handicap, rather it is an essential liberating condition for me. If I had inside information, I would not be here tonight. Technically, I could be speaking on this subject if I had information, but this would be in the role, perhaps, as an agent of disinformation. But, ethically, I could not do this."
"Question: Comments on the authenticity of the MJ -12 documents.
Answer: I have perhaps the same amount of information that those of you who have followed that. I simply do not know whether it is authentic or not. I sort of flounder to think of what additionally can be done beyond that which Bill Moore and the others have done to authenticate the document. Recall that the document itself is not a document as such. It is not a piece of paper. It was on film. And so, paper testing and so on cannot be done. The efforts of content analysis, that has been done accomplished so far, fails to prove that it is not authentic, but it also fails to prove. That is in my view.
General Bert is a graduate of the U.S. Military Academy (West Point, class of 52) who enjoyed a distinguished 32 year career in the U.S. Army. He retired as the Commanding General of the United States Army Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM). Prior to this assignment he commanded the US Army Electronics Research and Development Command (ERADCOM). During his active duty career he commanded soldiers at every level. After his retirement he served as the VP for Intelligence Systems with BDM, a major defense contractor. He has brought these experiences to leading-edge medical research and development in collaboration with his wife Rima E. Laibow, M.D]
Let me talk to you about where you might take this kind of a tool and do something with it, and again I am not sure I want to be on tape for this. We have looked at Mars, we have looked at UFOs, we spent some time looking at Mars, tomorrow I believe that you are going to hear a presentation on the Mars phenomena, and if I am correct, that you will be told that there are structures on the surface of Mars. I will tell you for the record that there are structures underneath the surface of Mars that cannot be seen by the Voyager cameras that went by in 1976, which is what you are going to hear tomorrow; I will also tell you that there are machines on the surface of Mars and there are machines under the surface of Mars that you can look at, you can find out in detail, you can see what they are, where they are, who they are and a lot of detail about them.
Now, you can do that through RV and I defy any sensor anywhere in this world today that can do that kind of analysis or give you those kinds of leads, it just doesn't exist today. Now, someday we will put a Mars station, someday we will go there, someday we will see all of this, someday we will find it, but today you do not have any capability to verify what I am saying so I can I say it, which makes it nice. As far as the UFOs are concerned, they can be accessed, they can be tracked, we have looked at the propulsion system for them, that's not a hard job, you can track them back to where they come from, whether they come from a place here on this planet or whether they come from a place on another planet, they are trackable and you can take a look inside as well as outside, so again it is a tool that is available to be used for the UFO research and I guess, I guess that's the reason that I am standing on this platform in spite of my misgivings and feeling a little bit nervous like a tree on a Lassie program
I was there … The 1985 meetings were held in the basement at BDM. The idea was to pool our knowledge of UFOs to see what we could conclude. Several people made presentations, mostly not very classified. I was out of the room for a few minutes while some special subject was discussed. All my notes were classified at the time, and they have probably been destroyed.’
The phenomenon of remote viewing, which anyone can accomplish with a bit of training, allows the explanation that the mind of the individual is in resonance with the nonlocal object of attention. Resonance is established in a number of ways: by asking one’s subconscious a question, or by visualizing an associated object or some icon representing the target object.
After my space flight, I was contacted by some descendants of the original Roswell observers, including the person who delivered the child-sized coffins to the Air Force to contain the alien bodies. Another was one of the children of the deputy sheriff who was patrolling traffic around the site back then. There was also a military officer who was a friend of the families not involved in that particular operation, but who did share office space there. They all seemed credible with their stories that the bodies were alien.
The National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS) is a privately funded science institute engaged in research of aerial phenomena, animal mutilations, and other related anomalous phenomena. Please submit sighting reports, animal mutilations, or other unusual activities either by phone or via our website report form. NIDS maintains a large database of anomalous activity and investigates reports whenever possible, using a combination of high quality ex-law enforcement investigative teams and contract research involving nationally accredited laboratories in the veterinary, biological (including bacteriological, virological and DNA), chemical, and materials sciences. The results of these investigations are published in peer reviewed journals and on the NIDS website.
"I have it on very good authority, without going into too much detail, that NIDS and Bigelow Aerospace was funded as a black budget CIA project to prevent scrutiny and accountability from Congress. ... In case you haven’t noticed, most of the members of the aviary are also members of the NIDS science advisory board. The aviary group was part of an organized government operation that intentionally tried to convince Americans of an alien presence. "
I learned that the real question is not what stunning information NIDS is hiding, but how a research organization could have such a poor track record of accomplishment over such an extended period of time.
My acquaintance confided that largely unknown to outsiders, NIDS fell prey to a variety of internal problems: poor management, lack of direction, lack of creativity, lack of funding, a negative company culture, poor hiring decisions, and low morale fueled by annual layoffs. This was compounded by the elusive nature of the field of study. In one example, when my acquaintance, newly hired, asked for direction, the response given was to "spend a couple of hours a day surfing the web for items of interest." (!)
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In a desperate attempt to keep sighting reports coming in (and to keep what little funding is remaining), the current Administrator is trying to maintain a ruse that NIDS is still an active research organization. As of July, the NIDS web site still lists the Science Advisory Board, and Dr. Bruce Cornet is still listed as staff, despite the fact that he was laid off months ago. I was also told that while addressing the audience at a recent scientific conference, the current Administrator stated that NIDS has in its employ a full time veterinarian, a fact that hasn't been true for at least 3 years!