Vetting Donald Trump

a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

I agree the GOP has done nothing on the immigration issue........

And I agree he talks a good game.......but.......

he.........has...........no..........solutions.........

Its all talk, there are other candidates that have ideas on how to fix this that are valid

Saying youll "Build a wall and force mexico to pay for it" isnt a solution........Mexico is going to give you the finger and laugh in your face.......

Real solutions.....not Made for TV , Reality Showesque drivel

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Bernie Sanders is PERFECT for that.......I wouldnt vote for him, but by god the man knows his crap and knows his ideology and has a track record to prove it

His track record is the reason why I'm voting for him. The same way I always voted for Ron Paul when he ran because those two didn't constantly flip flop every time you turn around.

a reply to: FyreByrd

They are selling us tickets to watch the country burn my friend........

And those who vote for them get a front row seat.....

Also, for me personally, I feel as if I have lost ALL compassion for Illegal Immigration and I am now at a ZERO tolerance point in my life. As I said, Los Angeles native born and raised and resident for nearly 40 years. You don't survive something like this and not have a seething almost obsessive hatred for the issue.

I lost my patience....all of it. So when I hear Trump speak...I have some hope that someone out there will protect us....American citizens. (Which includes ALL races of us)

I admit that I have become angry about the issue. To the point where even my rationality for a 'candidate' has gone out the door. But Trump has my ear. That's how far we've been pushed. If you push against a people enough, something will break.

Call it racism, call it bigotry, call it ignorance...I simply don't care anymore. I want all Illegals GONE. NOW. I don't care about the repercussions anymore. I simply lost all hope or compassion

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Mexico is going to give you the finger and laugh in your face.

Actually they could do something even funnier than that. They could tell us to take it out of the money we owe Mexico. Right now we owe Mexico close to 30 billion dollars.

a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

Im with you on illegal immigration.........but again.....he doesnt really have a solution , its just tough talk.......

Look into the other candidates and some of the solutions they have put forth....

Im just saying, as many others see, Trump is about his own interest, and I can guarantee you everyone, and everything else in this country will come behind that......

Because hes not going to do a DAMN thing thats going to have an impact on his own business interests

originally posted by: FyreByrd

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask


I listened to his speech.........again where are his solutions? Its all platitudes.......

If people dont want to look at his background and see this for what it is then we deserve what we can get......

Again we have much more qualified conservative candidates who have actually stood their ground in politics for conservative values and have a history of doing so.....

In the face of the mulititude of candidates that we have, why anyone would get behind the Trump circus blows my mind....

We had 8 yrs of elected platitudes (no offense to my liberal friends)

If we elect another one who has no solutions then we get what we deserve

A very valid point that we should pay close attention to, one that has become very apparent in the Democrat Race is what are the candidates actually SELLING - themselves or solutions (at least ideas).

Trump is selling himself and he really doesn't care about anything else - he just wants the 'notch on his belt' of being President on his list...

I think Clinton is the same....

Neither care who pays for it, who benefits and who suffers and dies just so long as they go down in history as a president.

That's the question What are they Selling us.

What politician running isn't doing so but for "The Notch on their belt?"

Think about this!

Billions of dollars will be spent on the next presidential election! BILLIONS! YET? The only candidate that I have not been sent an email begging for a contribution, NOR has a website EVEN BEEN SET UP TO ACCEPT CONTRIBUTIONS? Is Trump!

So think about all of those other politicians and the BILLIONS of dollars being spent to put them in POWER, and then think about the HOMELESS, THE STARVING, and ask your self, "How can politicians pretend they care about the poor and suffering, when so much money that COULD HAVE BEEN SPENT TO HELP THOSE IN NEED is justified and worthy spending it on politicians with nothing more than "EMPTY PROMISES"!

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

Im with you on illegal immigration.........but again.....he doesnt really have a solution , its just tough talk.......

Look into the other candidates and some of the solutions they have put forth....

Im just saying, as many others see, Trump is about his own interest, and I can guarantee you everyone, and everything else in this country will come behind that......

Because hes not going to do a DAMN thing thats going to have an impact on his own business interests

I know Trump is full of crap. I know WHO he is. I'm 41, I've known him since childhood.

But he's the ONLY one speaking about an issue that is TANKING the country, so I'm listening.

Maybe the others should talk about it. They aren't so I'm ignoring them, they had better start. They had better take note. A LOT of us are PISSED. The writing is on the wall....it's a powder keg and I'll light the political match if need be also.

a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

Well then my hope is that his remarks will be a catalyst that gets the other candidates discussing their solutions!

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

Well then my hope is that his remarks will be a catalyst that gets the other candidates discussing their solutions!

I do too, because in the end I cannot really take him seriously.

But if they DON'T I will ignore them and 'pull the lever' for him. These politicians had better get their ARSES in gear and wise up. I don't want to hear from anyone on the issue other than full fledged HAWKS....aggressive ones too...willing to break some eggs...

It's overdue.

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

Well then my hope is that his remarks will be a catalyst that gets the other candidates discussing their solutions!

He is "Hurting the Republican Brand"! Not making it up dude! Fox has been screaming that statement! My question is when in the hell did a political party become a brand?

Is it me or does having a brand, remind you of a "Corporation" in a lawsuit? Politics are like religion! The faithful believe in an ideology, BUT A BRAND???????

Something to think about........

Edit: Are political parties now CORPORATIONS??????

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

Well then my hope is that his remarks will be a catalyst that gets the other candidates discussing their solutions!

He is "Hurting the Republican Brand"! Not making it up dude! Fox has been screaming that statement! My question is when in the hell did a political party become a brand?

Is it me or does having a brand, remind you of a "Corporation" in a lawsuit? Politics are like religion! The faithful believe in an ideology, BUT A BRAND???????

Something to think about........

Edit: Are political parties now CORPORATIONS??????

1. Trump is his own brand......

2. Im not voting Rep or Dem , im going to vote for who I think has the best solutions, and stands by their prinicples.....

So if hes hurting their brand meh!

However Trump is all about promoting his own brand.......

Should we just switch one for the other?

Something to think about

originally posted by: intrepid
Seriously. This dude is more PT Barnham than R Reagan. But hey.... Barnham said, "There's a sucker born every minute..." so maybe.

Reagan was the governor of California. He was also the right man at the right time when you consider the era he was president.

Trump political history has more to do with making political donations to who ever supports his business interests then anything else. While this isn't unusual it does rule him out from having any real political pedigree. If Trump does anything it will be that he provides a smoke screen for Jeb Bush to get his house of cards in order.

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

Well then my hope is that his remarks will be a catalyst that gets the other candidates discussing their solutions!

He is "Hurting the Republican Brand"! Not making it up dude! Fox has been screaming that statement! My question is when in the hell did a political party become a brand?

Is it me or does having a brand, remind you of a "Corporation" in a lawsuit? Politics are like religion! The faithful believe in an ideology, BUT A BRAND???????

Something to think about........

Edit: Are political parties now CORPORATIONS??????

1. Trump is his own brand......

2. Im not voting Rep or Dem , im going to vote for who I think has the best solutions, and stands by their prinicples.....

So if hes hurting their brand meh!

However Trump is all about promoting his own brand.......

Should we just switch one for the other?

Something to think about

Smacks of desperation man. If Trump is the "savior"...... oh #. Really.

I have no issues with gay people, Pro Choice, Pro Pot, Mostly...Anti-War, Capitalist, Anti Socialist, Anti Marxist (Social and Economic), Agnostic, Anti-Corporatist, Anti-Collectivist....Libertarian

On the Immigration issue though...I've had enough. I don't care WHO gets the job done. I know it's not going to be a Leftist Democrat. So I'm leaning to the GOP...and they don't do squat because they support the Chamber of Commerce and cheap labor...and they talk a big game, but even my favorite Rand Paul disgusts me on his 'solutions'. I immediately dropped him after watching him in a YouTube video speak about his "Guest Worker to Citizen" ideas....so screw him

I'm so over them all...the border issue has changed our society, hurt our economy, hurt inner city youths, hurt poor AMERICANS of all colors, hurt our culture, our education, our medical industries..

I won't tolerate anything less than a Hawk on the border issue. I'll vote for that over any other issue standing.

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

Well then my hope is that his remarks will be a catalyst that gets the other candidates discussing their solutions!

He is "Hurting the Republican Brand"! Not making it up dude! Fox has been screaming that statement! My question is when in the hell did a political party become a brand?

Is it me or does having a brand, remind you of a "Corporation" in a lawsuit? Politics are like religion! The faithful believe in an ideology, BUT A BRAND???????

Something to think about........

Edit: Are political parties now CORPORATIONS??????

1. Trump is his own brand......

2. Im not voting Rep or Dem , im going to vote for who I think has the best solutions, and stands by their prinicples.....

So if hes hurting their brand meh!

However Trump is all about promoting his own brand.......

Should we just switch one for the other?

Something to think about

Nope!

I will vote for who I think is ballsy enough to be honest and doesn't care about offending anyone who identifies themselves with being "Politically Correct"!

So far Trump is the only candidate that isn't worried about hurting someones feelings!

He is also not BEGGING for money from people to help him run as all the other candidates.........

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

The underlying issue is that Trump isn't out to win the GOP nomination. He is engaged in a PR stunt. I don't begrudge him for this at all. Looking at the rest of the GOP field only Jeb Bush is out to win the nomination. The likes of Rand Paul are looking to build there national profile with perhaps 2020 in mind.

The GOP will settle for legislative control over occupying the White House. The Democratic party did just the same thing during the Reagan era. I expect that Jeb will be the GOP throw away candidate in 2016.

a reply to: intrepid

In honesty compared to the presidency's of Bush 43 and Obama , Trump wouldn't look all that bad if he was a genuine presidential candidate. He would be the ideal president to oversee the US defaulting on its debts.

originally posted by: xpert11
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

The underlying issue is that Trump isn't out to win the GOP nomination. He is engaged in a PR stunt. I don't begrudge him for this at all. Looking at the rest of the GOP field only Jeb Bush is out to win the nomination. The likes of Rand Paul are looking to build there national profile with perhaps 2020 in mind.

The GOP will settle for legislative control over occupying the White House. The Democratic party did just the same thing during the Reagan era. I expect that Jeb will be the GOP throw away candidate in 2016.

Do you really believe we will see 2020 as a sovereign nation?

Did you see that the Bankers are so miffed at Greece that they want sanctions to prevent them from getting aid to survive?

Just think about that!

The debt of the US is HUGE compared to Greece! The saving grace? OUR MILITARY! Just wait until they are no longer needed.,..........

originally posted by: xpert11
a reply to: intrepid

In honesty compared to the presidency's of Bush 43 and Obama , Trump wouldn't look all that bad if he was a genuine presidential candidate. He would be the ideal president to oversee the US defaulting on its debts.

Is that the apex of what Americans have to vote for? A charlatan? Hasn't that been done to death since JFK? I feel for you guys. You have NO options. Their system is in place to screw you.