The republic of Australia.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa


Maybe the real question that should be asked is.......... "Do the Aborigines want everyone else to just go away and let them have their country back" ?

Now that would be a really good idea and it would have my vote.

a reply to: borntowatch

You should probably research and then apologise for calling someone a tripper

Why would I need to research anything? I've hang out with plenty of Aboriginals who refer to 'all' Aboriginals as Koori, so I now instinctively do the same. Yeah, it's not a term used in Western Australia, I realize that.

Either way, I'm not going to get into one of these sensitive little debates with you, or apologize to anyone!

Jesus Chirst!

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: borntowatch

You should probably research and then apologise for calling someone a tripper

Why would I need to research anything? I've hang out with plenty of Aboriginals who refer to 'all' Aboriginals as Koori, so I now instinctively do the same. Yeah, it's not a term used in Western Australia, I realize that.

Either way, I'm not going to get into one of these sensitive little debates with you, or apologize to anyone!

Jesus Chirst!

No dont research it, ignorance is a cool place to be.

But seriously you have made a bit of a fool of yourself.

I know some Noongars and they would laugh at being called Kooris.
It is as absurd as a person born in West Australia living in the West going on holidays to Victoria and calling themselves a Victorian.

If NT Aboriginals called themselves Kooris they probably come from the Vic, NSW area.

Aboriginals are not one tribe and your comments reflected they were.

Anyway you dont have to research, the wikipedia quote showed you that all Aboriginals are not Kooris.

I think its insensitive to call all Aboriginies Kooris

Its a silly as calling all American Indians Cherokee, its just silly

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

you have the union flag on the Australian flag because the European element of the Australian nation was founded by the British mainly [ and Irish] - so the so called ' true blue Australians ' were until recent times mainly of British or British Isles descent - it is not Rocket Science and I am sure you are well aware of this.

That is why they called Britain - the ' mother country ' as you are aware .

However moving forward this is changing as that group become a minority - so you are right the affiliation with Britain is becoming less -

a reply to: alldaylong

Sorry but Australia is my country too, I was born here, I'm not going anywhere!

a reply to: borntowatch

Aboriginals are not one tribe and your comments reflected they were.

Your comments are implying that all Aboriginals from Vic and NSW are all one tribe. So who's making a fool of themselves and being insensitive then?

I loosely refer to Aboriginal people as Koori, just as the Aboriginals I have spent time with did, so just deal with it.

a reply to: HelenConway

However moving forward this is changing as that group become a minority - so you are right the affiliation with Britain is becoming less

Good I prefer my mothers wog food

a reply to: zazzafrazz

you do realise that that term is very offensive and is only used in Australia.
BTW Italian is my fav food too - if it was Italian you were referring to ?

a reply to: Chadwickus

Sorry but Australia is my country too

Stolen property doesn't make it " yours "

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: borntowatch

Aboriginals are not one tribe and your comments reflected they were.

Your comments are implying that all Aboriginals from Vic and NSW are all one tribe. So who's making a fool of themselves and being insensitive then?

I loosely refer to Aboriginal people as Koori, just as the Aboriginals I have spent time with did, so just deal with it.

Oh well let me apologise, I from the West and we have Noongars Wangai and Yamatji, I am a Whadulla.

I dont know the Eastern States tribes, never said I did.
What I said was you were wrong
You are still wrong, as are your supposed friends, all Aboriginals are not Koori
Now you can let it go

a reply to: HelenConway

I am Australian, and we changed the offensiveness of it, instead of being alarmed and offended we joked and owned it Turned the British insult towards immigrants on its head so they couldn't own the insult anymore. And now I'm happy to say I'm a wog. No cringe involved at all.

Not Italien.
But I love going to Melbourne to the A1 bakery and having the best Lebanese food, in Sydney Sugar Cane for Thai in Surrey Hills, Canberra, The Ottoman for Turkish. nom om om om
My point is I have had little British influence in my life at all, as plenty of us haven't. I grew up speaking another language at home and I love Multicultural fusion.
So Im happy to have an Australia, with an Australian head of state.

Besides I saw Prince Harry barack for England in the Rugby and be furious when we scored, in our own country ! so yeah He and his family aren't what I call Aussies

a reply to: alldaylong

What's stolen?

Didn't you hear me?

I was born here, this place is as much mine as any.

How dare you say I stole anything. You know nothing, you're not even Australian so don't pretend to know what you're talking about.

a reply to: Chadwickus

What's stolen?

Maybe this will answer your question;

Ever since the British first invaded, Aboriginal peoples have had their land stolen from them or destroyed.

www.survivalinternational.org...

You know nothing, you're not even Australian

I don't have to be an Australian to know about what wrongs where carried out. Is this issue " whitewashed " in your education system?

a reply to: Subaeruginosa
Thats simple to answer. Because no matter what you would call it or label it. For the greater part it would change nothing on the global scale and economic scale. It is what it is and that is that. All that other jive is just nonsense with people who have to much time on there hands.

Besides there are bigger issues for Australia, besides that, like there is that whole possibility if it all becoming one big desert some day. And the bigger issue in my eyes is, the whole knife thing. Now ever since I was a wee tike and seen crocodile Dundee I used to think that Australians are hella cool and used to go around with all these cool knifes fighting crocodiles and stuff.

Boy was I wrong on that part, you guys are even more anal on right to bear arms then the British. Its disturbing I tell you. And I will not have my image of it ruined by a bunch of whiny brats. I purpose we make it a law that everybody who is born Australian has to have at least a pocket knife on them, those who are more butter fingers well they get to carry a butterknife just encase they cut themselves or something, and some people are not to be trusted with sharpened pencils much less that. Also they have to go around saying things like "thats not a knife mate, tiss a knife" It would be totally awesome.

Just in case you did not notice. But I think you are a bit clueless on things, and there are far bigger issues out there then a piece of paper which declares somebody something which they already are. The time for that ended some time ago, it may have been great in 1776 like it did for the Americas. But now a days such things don't mean anywere as much as they used. The world in case you have not noticed, has moved on to bigger issues, and I suggest you do the same.

The only Republic you would currently get is one by for and of politicians, there is nobody remotely near the calibre of American founding fathers in Australian public life,the Queen isnt perfect but God help us if people like Hockey,Shorten and Abbot got to design our new country,on the coat of arms emu and kangaroo would both have a nazi flag shoved up their ass.

a reply to: alldaylong

The British, not Australians, invaded almost everywheare. Your country.

For the third time, I was born here. Nothing stolen. Nothing taken.

Get over yourself.

originally posted by: tothetenthpower
Not a bad idea though. Republics are better than democracies.

You're confusing a "republican" form of Government and an actual Republic.

A Democracy can be a Republic, but it can also be a Constitutional Monarchy, a Federation or anything else. A Democracy is simply a state where the people either directly or through elected representatives are given a voice.

A Republic can be a Democracy, but it can also be a dictatorship. The only thing needed to make a nation a Republic is to not have a hereditary Head of State.

The two are not mutually exclusive.

As for the OP - Australia is independent, I'm not sure why you think otherwise.

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: alldaylong

The British, not Australians, invaded almost everywheare. Your country.

For the third time, I was born here. Nothing stolen. Nothing taken.

Get over yourself.

Where did your ancestors come from though? Australia, the independent nation, was persecuting the aborigines as recently as the 1960's and 70's. Don't try to squirm out of it by pinning it on 19th century settlers - you've been an independent nation for well over 100 years.

a reply to: stumason

Not squirming out if anything.

I take offence when some do gooder that doesn't even live here tell me I stole the land from Aboriginals.

Yes they've been persecuted and marginalised, shall we just keep dwelling on that and not move forward?

What would you have us do? I'm reminded and guilted daily for something I didn't even do!

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: stumason

Not squirming out if anything.

I take offence when some do gooder that doesn't even live here tell me I stole the land from Aboriginals.

I get what you're saying, but it's not like us in the UK are responsible either. It's all history and dwelling on it won't change anything.

originally posted by: Chadwickus
Yes they've been persecuted and marginalised, shall we just keep dwelling on that and not move forward?

What would you have us do? I'm reminded and guilted daily for something I didn't even do!

Indeed and I agree. But at the same time, it's hardly our fault either and our responsibility ended even further back in time than your own. It all gets a bit silly.

With regards to the OP though, I like that fact we're a "family of nations" and I wouldn't want to see Australia become a Republic, bringing that to a close. At the end of the day, you guys do whatever you want, the Queen is just the titular Head of State and it's part of our shared history.

Of course, the decision is solely down to the Ozzies themselves