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originally posted by: EndOfDays77
Well done for bringing this up OP!
This object has obviously moved from the original blacked out box.The link below will explain all you need to know.
originally posted by: drphilxr
a reply to: wildespace
only one little question i have - ive forgotten most of the good astronomy i learned years ago from disuse - but my daughter's school has a nice 25" ritchy-chretien refractor that has a nice IR spectrometer used by the USNO and NASA for planetary object work.
wouldn't that type of system be needed - and a very southerly geographical location - to pick out a faint, "brown dwarf" or large oort cloud region object? I don't think - from what i can recall - that most amateur astronomers would see "planet X" of internet fame from most locations north of (south) south america. ?
originally posted by: smurfy
originally posted by: EndOfDays77
Well done for bringing this up OP!
This object has obviously moved from the original blacked out box.The link below will explain all you need to know.
That's something I also noticed, the black patch as I remember was supposed to be an occulter because of that stars brightness, you could ask why bother, I saw no particular reason for it. Anyway, I looked at the patch I have on my Google Earth and this new yellow object with it's gassy 'tail' would not have been covered by the patch if it had been in the same position as it is now. The other thing is the patch the guy in the video shows, is not the same as the patch I have? his has no obvious light being obscured in what he shows, mine shows a small portion of the bright star. It's all a bit stupid but there it is.
originally posted by: 3danimator2014
originally posted by: Ultralight
a reply to: 3danimator2014
I will spend my FREE time where I choose, thank you. You know nothing about my educational background and, I feel, are intentionally condescending.
Either that or I haven't had enough hot chi tea this morning and my cranky factor is set on stun.
Im not commenting about you. Im commenting about your lack of scientific knowledge on the subject of this thread. That you think that astronomers can track inbound small lumps of rock is astounding enough. But that you (and others) dont seem to fathom the effect that Planet X would have on EVERY SINGLE planet in the solar system is just mind boggling. Its been explained, over and over and over again.
The science is simple enough for schoolkids to get, but you ( meaning also all you planetx believers) feel the need to ignore such mundane facts such as gravity in order to play make believe.
I dont get it. The universe is exciting enough...you dont need to make up stuff.
We don't really know. We can define what it is as a field of influence, because we know how it operates in the universe. And some scientists think that it is made up of particles called gravitons which travel at the speed of light. However, if we are to be honest, we do not know what gravity "is" in any fundamental way - we only know how it behaves.
Orbital periods can be less than an hour (for AM CVn stars), or a few days (components of Beta Lyrae), but also hundreds of thousands of years (Proxima Centauri around Alpha Centauri AB).
And all things on the earth shall alter,
And shall not appear in their time:
And the moon shall alter her order,
And not appear at her time.
And in those days the sun shall be seen and he shall journey in the evening on the extremity of the great chariot in the west
And shall shine more brightly than accords with the order of light.
And many chiefs of the stars shall transgress the order (prescribed).
And these shall alter their orbits and tasks,
And not appear at the seasons prescribed to them.
And the whole order of the stars shall be concealed,
And the thoughts of those on the earth shall err concerning them.
Book of Enoch
originally posted by: Char-Lee
originally posted by: 3danimator2014
originally posted by: Ultralight
a reply to: 3danimator2014
I will spend my FREE time where I choose, thank you. You know nothing about my educational background and, I feel, are intentionally condescending.
Either that or I haven't had enough hot chi tea this morning and my cranky factor is set on stun.
Im not commenting about you. Im commenting about your lack of scientific knowledge on the subject of this thread. That you think that astronomers can track inbound small lumps of rock is astounding enough. But that you (and others) dont seem to fathom the effect that Planet X would have on EVERY SINGLE planet in the solar system is just mind boggling. Its been explained, over and over and over again.
The science is simple enough for schoolkids to get, but you ( meaning also all you planetx believers) feel the need to ignore such mundane facts such as gravity in order to play make believe.
I dont get it. The universe is exciting enough...you dont need to make up stuff.
I am sorry but it is not a simple thing and if you think so you are the one who needs to do some more studying.
First off gravity is not a simple thing it is not even know what it is. There is so much to learn and at every turn we read, "scientists find impossible" the impossible being weighed against their former belief.
There are changes happening to the earth, sun and all of the planets at this time, unpredicted and not understood changes, since you have a love of science you will know this.
The peculiar morphology of the winged disc receives a straightforward explanation in the interdisciplinary method of 'plasma mythology', as advocated on these pages. Extensive laboratory experiments and a worldwide survey of petroglyphs have led plasma physicist Anthony Peratt to conclude that the past has witnessed the formation of a heaven-reaching plasma discharge tube, precipitated by a large influx of charged particles from space and an increased solar wind. The detailed reconstruction of the development of this column offers a strikingly close match to the archetypal aspects attributed to the 'cosmic tree' in ancient traditions around the globe. A shock pulse exercised on the circumpolar regions of the earth would have produced a plasma instability resulting in just such extensions to the column as the 'wings' of the disc at the top. The spiky features of these plasma discharge “wings” strongly resemble flaming feathers. In origin, then, it might be that the winged disc commemorated something far stranger than the ordinary sun: a 'primordial sun' whose wings answered not to fancy, but to astronomical reality.
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originally posted by: Ultralight
a reply to: mysticrecluse
Or they have been paid off to remain silenced, or threatened, hmmm?
originally posted by: ngchunter
originally posted by: smurfy
originally posted by: EndOfDays77
Well done for bringing this up OP!
This object has obviously moved from the original blacked out box.The link below will explain all you need to know.
That's something I also noticed, the black patch as I remember was supposed to be an occulter because of that stars brightness, you could ask why bother, I saw no particular reason for it. Anyway, I looked at the patch I have on my Google Earth and this new yellow object with it's gassy 'tail' would not have been covered by the patch if it had been in the same position as it is now. The other thing is the patch the guy in the video shows, is not the same as the patch I have? his has no obvious light being obscured in what he shows, mine shows a small portion of the bright star. It's all a bit stupid but there it is.
It isn't new and it hasn't moved. Please see my link on the last page, there are youtube videos of this same object in the same place from at least 3 years ago. And I can find pictures of it taken about 60 years ago. It hasn't moved in all that time.
originally posted by: ngchunter
originally posted by: Char-Lee
originally posted by: 3danimator2014
originally posted by: Ultralight
a reply to: 3danimator2014
I will spend my FREE time where I choose, thank you. You know nothing about my educational background and, I feel, are intentionally condescending.
Either that or I haven't had enough hot chi tea this morning and my cranky factor is set on stun.
Im not commenting about you. Im commenting about your lack of scientific knowledge on the subject of this thread. That you think that astronomers can track inbound small lumps of rock is astounding enough. But that you (and others) dont seem to fathom the effect that Planet X would have on EVERY SINGLE planet in the solar system is just mind boggling. Its been explained, over and over and over again.
The science is simple enough for schoolkids to get, but you ( meaning also all you planetx believers) feel the need to ignore such mundane facts such as gravity in order to play make believe.
I dont get it. The universe is exciting enough...you dont need to make up stuff.
I am sorry but it is not a simple thing and if you think so you are the one who needs to do some more studying.
First off gravity is not a simple thing it is not even know what it is. There is so much to learn and at every turn we read, "scientists find impossible" the impossible being weighed against their former belief.
There are changes happening to the earth, sun and all of the planets at this time, unpredicted and not understood changes, since you have a love of science you will know this.
Here are the limits of the mass/distance function of any putative planet X. Please tell me how this fits in with your claims that it's causing "earth changes?"
arxiv.org...