The Confederate flag should be taken down and burned.

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: Greathouse

You've been corrected on that list many times.

If you say so ?

Potato

a reply to: Greathouse


And your post attacking 'liberals' has what to do with the confederate flag flying over state buildings?

Actually don't answer that. I already know.
Nothing.

a reply to: zazzafrazz

I attacked no one, I simply agree with that viewpoint on the lefts thinking on traditions .

a reply to: zazzafrazz

I think I like you as an American Zazz lol.

originally posted by: Greathouse

originally posted by: muse7
It does not represent "Southern Heritage".

It represents tyranny, it represents one of the darkest times this country has gone through in it's entire history. It represents a Government that went to war to keep people enslaved in the cotton fields, to prevent them from being treated like actual human beings instead of livestock. That tolerated and encouraged lynchings and public hangings.

It represents an ideology that revolves around hate.

The truth is that South Carolina's Confederate flag was only raised above the statehouse in 1962—to show defiance to the powerful civil rights movement, to proclaim white superiority. And it is still there for that reason.

There is a misconception about the Civil War. The majority of southerners that fought in it did not own slaves. To the common people it was not so much about slavery as it was to states rights . Think about what I say. Many people on here are calling A for a civil war/revolution . It has nothing to do with slavery it mainly has to do with federal oversight of people .

And that was precisely what aggravated people in the 1800s .

I'm going to keep saying it until anybody listens. Everything that is being complained about now is not original it all has its place in history if you choose to look for it.

You can say it all you want, but that still won't make it true. Much less, rational.

In what war have those with the most skin in the game, been the ones to fight? FYI; All wars are fought by the serfs, for the elites.

IMO; If anything, those southerners fought out of a false sense of patriotism, coupled with their fear that freeing the slaves would destroy their entire "way of life."

Furthermore, I would just imagine that they must have had at least some fear that freed slaves just might want to enact a tad bit of revenge on southern whites for the brutal treatment they received as slaves.

The confederate flag was and is, the official representation of that mentality and that's why you'll still see it displayed every time you see a video from a white supremacist meeting, KKK meeting and most southern militia meetings.

If anyone has misconceptions about the Civil War and/or war in general, I'd say you're one of them.

I agree the flags should be removed. This is a part of American History we should be ashamed of, not have it flapping in the wind as some sort of trophy of shame and oppression.

They have the right yeah yeah blah blah batsh!t.

All I think of when I think of that egregious war, is all the young men, doesn't matter which side they were on, but all those young men who were ordered to go out into the fields and kill each other. Devastation for all.

How can you disagree with my statement? The war was started by the elites in the south over slavery and states rights . The common man fighting the war did not own any slaves they fought for a different reason .


I know many people that display the Confederate flag. Not one of them supports the KKK or slavery it is about southern tradition .

a reply to: Greathouse

Yep. The common understanding of the war is that it was fought over slavery alone, while indeed it encompassed a great deal more.

However, people have boiled down the war to "slavery" as the common consensus, and the Confederate flag has come to represent that; is highly offensive, and needs to go away.

originally posted by: Greathouse
a reply to: NavyDoc

Most idealist fall under the fourth unspoken rule of liberalism .

4) The past is always inferior to the present: Liberals tend to view traditions, policies, and morals of past generations as arbitrary designs put in place by less enlightened people. Because of this, liberals don't pay much attention to why traditions developed or wonder about possible ramifications of their social engineering. It’s like an architect ripping out the foundation of a house without questioning the consequences and if the living room falls in on itself as a result, he concludes that means he needs to make even more changes.

12 unspoken rules of liberalism

Doc give that link to read I think you'll like it .

Your link is to a site that is uniformly conservative and which makes massive suppositions. I'm a liberal and that list had me howling with laughter.

a reply to: Kali74

It's a CRAZY PLACE Kali...


As for the flag.
My point earlier was If their was unequivocal policy for slavery by the confederates along with all the other economic policies and power struggles (as pointed out by pro confederacy flaggers here) that men go out and get slaughtered over. Then that is enough to say, that flag representing a collectives Economic, political and PRO SLAVERY ideologies should not be on a state building.

Nazism wasn't JUST about hating Jews, they had plenty of other aggressive economic and political reasons for their expansion agenda, but the Germans were gracious enough in defeat to not fly the Nazi flag over current state buildings 80 years later, let alone the souths flying it over 150 years later after the event


Confederates lost the war.
Fly the american flag and your state flag and leave a symbol of racism and the losing sides political and economic agendas that people are claiming it also represents....in a museum.

Can anyone find me a racist site that DOESNT have the confederate flag on their page?

lol.

originally posted by: Kali74
It should be burned. People all over the US did that today and will next Saturday too. Look for an event near you.

Its called freedom of speech deal with it.

BURN IT PERIOD.

For those clamoring to take away the confederate flag the maybe we should put you in jail for trying to take away our freedom of speech WHICH is protected under the constitution.

If you are againts the constitution then you are an enemy of the U.SA and should be tried for treason.

My favorite form of corporal punishment for treason would be hanging for you treasonous vipers.

When the "South" lost the Civil war and signed surrenders/treaties, was there any agreements that "allowed" States to use the various flags?

Apparently there were no restrictions was there?

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
BURN IT PERIOD.

Has there ever been any lawsuits to ban the things?

originally posted by: Greathouse
I know many people that display the Confederate flag. Not one of them supports the KKK or slavery it is about southern tradition .

Then they don't know very much about that tradition. The economy of the Confederacy was built on slavery. The votes for the secession commissions and other instruments of secession came from the electorate. The Confederacy was a last-ditch effort to try and hold back the tide running against slavery.

originally posted by: xuenchen
When the "South" lost the Civil war and signed surrenders/treaties, was there any agreements that "allowed" States to use the various flags?

Apparently there were no restrictions was there?

Not that I know of.And regardless its still protected under freedom of speech.

I am not saying I support slavery but I love the south and the confederate flag is part of it.Banning it could lead to restriction of speech..

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
BURN IT PERIOD.

Has there ever been any lawsuits to ban the things?

If there were then there would be a counterlawsuit for infringment of freedom of speech.

Wanna try it?

a reply to: zazzafrazz

"It belongs in a museum".