The Confederate flag should be taken down and burned.

It does not represent "Southern Heritage".

It represents tyranny, it represents one of the darkest times this country has gone through in it's entire history. It represents a Government that went to war to keep people enslaved in the cotton fields, to prevent them from being treated like actual human beings instead of like livestock. That tolerated and encouraged lynchings and public hangings.

It represents an ideology that revolves around hate.

The truth is that South Carolina's Confederate flag was only raised above the statehouse in 1962—to show defiance to the powerful civil rights movement, to proclaim white superiority. And it is still there for that reason.

a reply to: muse7

That flag should be use the same way as we use the nazy flag here, to wipe your ass

originally posted by: muse7
It does not represent "Southern Heritage".

It represents tyranny, it represents one of the darkest times this country has gone through in it's entire history. It represents a Government that went to war to keep people enslaved in the cotton fields, to prevent them from being treated like actual human beings instead of livestock. That tolerated and encouraged lynchings and public hangings.

It represents an ideology that revolves around hate.

The truth is that South Carolina's Confederate flag was only raised above the statehouse in 1962—to show defiance to the powerful civil rights movement, to proclaim white superiority. And it is still there for that reason.

There is a misconception about the Civil War. The majority of southerners that fought in it did not own slaves. To the common people it was not so much about slavery as it was to states rights . Think about what I say. Many people on here are calling A for a civil war/revolution . It has nothing to do with slavery it mainly has to do with federal oversight of people .

And that was precisely what aggravated people in the 1800s .

I'm going to keep saying it until anybody listens. Everything that is being complained about now is not original it all has its place in history if you choose to look for it .

It should be burned. People all over the US did that today and will next Saturday too. Look for an event near you.

originally posted by: Greathouse

originally posted by: muse7
It does not represent "Southern Heritage".

It represents tyranny, it represents one of the darkest times this country has gone through in it's entire history. It represents a Government that went to war to keep people enslaved in the cotton fields, to prevent them from being treated like actual human beings instead of livestock. That tolerated and encouraged lynchings and public hangings.

It represents an ideology that revolves around hate.

The truth is that South Carolina's Confederate flag was only raised above the statehouse in 1962—to show defiance to the powerful civil rights movement, to proclaim white superiority. And it is still there for that reason.

There is a misconception about the Civil War. The majority of southerners that in it did not own slaves. To the common people it was not so much about slavery as it was to states rights . Think about what I say. Many people on here are calling A civil war/revolution . It has nothing to do with slavery it mainly has to do with federal oversight of people .

States rights

and among those rights...the right to own slaves

a reply to: Greathouse

Yet every declaration of secession was about the right to own slaves.

a reply to: muse7

Perhaps we should just "white out" every aspect of American history that was distasteful.

We could just have a clean and happy and PC and rated- G version of history.

You will just love this ...

Service. Honor. Pride.

The Civil War was going for two full years before the Emancipation Proclamation.

In my opinion, the war was fought because of high taxation on Northern finished products that the south desperately needed.

The Confederate flag may mean slavery to you, or South Carolina (apparently :0) but to me it means standing up for your state rights!

a reply to: muse7


You missed my point. Slavery was one of the issues but it mostly concerned the elite . Loyalties to state far outweighed the federal government at that point in our history. People rebelled against federal encroachment upon their rights during the Civil War the sole issue was not slavery .

Look what Lincoln did after the Civil War and it will let you know they were right and more in line with the Constitution .

a reply to: beezzer

Not necessary just put it in a history museum where it belongs.

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: muse7

Perhaps we should just "white out" every aspect of American history that was distasteful.

We could just have a clean and happy and PC and rated- G version of history.

It doesn't belong on top of a state capitol.

It belongs inside a museum.

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: Greathouse

Yet every declaration of secession was about the right to own slaves.

Yep the elite always rule be it at state level or federal government level. But that is not the reason the common people fought during the Civil War .

I don't know how to embed vids other than youtube but here's a link to a vine of a rally on the SC Capitol building to take the flag down.

a reply to: Greathouse

Ultimately, the point being what? That the flag should remain flying in southern capitols?

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: beezzer

Not necessary just put it in a history museum where it belongs.

I thought you wanted it burned and banned.

Slavery was one issue. Just one. maybe even the most prevalent. But it also stemmed from the issue of states rights vs. Federal ones.

The Northern and Southern sections of the United States developed along different lines. The South remained a predominantly agrarian economy while the North became more and more industrialized. Different social cultures and political beliefs developed. All of this led to disagreements on issues such as taxes, tariffs and internal improvements as well as states rights versus federal rights.

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Like the n-word, I think that flag means different things to different people. Problem is, banning it won't even come close to getting rid of racism. Only a generational, cultural, monumental shift in thinking and understanding will do that. In the end, though, getting rid of the flag is probably a symbolic step, however minute, towards that.

originally posted by: muse7

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: muse7

Perhaps we should just "white out" every aspect of American history that was distasteful.

We could just have a clean and happy and PC and rated- G version of history.

It doesn't belong on top of a state capitol.

It belongs inside a museum.

By all means, burn it, ban it, wipe your bottom with it.

Then tell others how to think, what to think and what to have.

a reply to: beezzer

Oh sorry I thought there was more than one...