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posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 10:14 AM
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For months I've been watching a ridiculous number of UFO/Alien docs on YouTube trying to find a very particular account of an encounter... anyway, I keep seeing a hypnotic regression of an older white man with a white mustache. In this regression he is filmed crying while saying something like, "...it's not,fair! It's MINE! ...". Which, if this person isn't lying... is a horrible thing for anyone to have to experience, and I genuinely would do almost anything to help this person.

THAT SAID, the helplessness and weakness in the voice of the man giving this account makes me angry. I've never been a "rub some dirt on it" sort of person, but I have to mute that crap every time it comes up. Which is 75-80% of the abduction docs.

I guess my question is, "Am I a psychopath, or...?"



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 10:24 AM
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So simple solution is stop watching that nonsense in the first place. None of its true. Don't waste your emotions on these vids which are geared to get just such a response from people.
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posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 10:43 AM
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Pete's Regression with Mary Rodwell on the 22nd of July 2013


Solreta's Regression with Mary Rodwell


There are alot of people who would like to have indepth regressions done by someone they really trusted, whole families also.



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 11:06 AM
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My favorit abductee regression has to be stan romanek. I dont care what others say about him. For an average dude to come up with scientific formulas for space travel like he did, before fricken scientist even made the discovery, is something pretty unheard of and unique. Element 115 wast even discovered yet when romanek wrote about it. Years later, when 115 was discovered a lot of scientists started looking further into his space travel formulas. Either he is a genius hoaxer and should be working for MIT or his accounts are genuine



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 11:28 AM
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If you ask if you are a psychopath if it is because you care, then you are not
If, on the other hand, you ask so that you can more cleverly manipulate the fact that you had no empathy for others when confronted in the future, you are.
a reply to: Putinslostshirt



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 11:35 AM
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I tend to not play favorites but am interested in all regressions. If I get the money will take Dolores Cannon's course, and teach my friends and family so we can practice on each other. There is 9 days I want to have a full explanation of, where I was told, this day took 9 days to complete, and then to write that down, and I woke up. That was after other events that won't go into on this thread, but that day was extraordinary, and my son told me the minute I ran downstairs, before I even asked him anything, that he felt he had been dropped off.

Based on regressions and online scripts, inductions, deepening, and techniques, along with very good binaurals and utlizing audacity, thinking of just experimenting without the course.

Dolores Cannon, now deceased, and her trainees, do the deepening with visualization, and have one of her DVD's and it works quite quickly.
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posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 11:55 AM
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a reply to: Unity_99

I would like to hear your experience. I know sometimes it can be intimidating writing a profund personal experience in a forum. And of course there are always ones that wont bother reading anything and just go straight to trolling.
But screw them, we are not here for those few individuals.
Please share your experience with us, the majority of us are all hear in this forum because we have the same understanding that there is more to this world than what is put in front of us.



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 12:01 PM
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originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
So simple solution is stop watching that nonsense in the first place. None of its true. Don't waste your emotions on these vids which are geared to get just such a response from people.


To be so adamant, you must also believe that ET UFOs don't exist in any way, shape, manner or form here at Earth. And to reach that emphatic conclusion you have to refuse to accept countless account from military pilots, photos, radar returns and sightings from ordinary citizens from over half a century.

And to do that enormous task with a dismissive wave of the hand or a few words in this case, means that your mind already is made up about any aspect of UFOs. So that is your position of authority, the same as the governments? And if you stammer to say that you believe in some UFOs being alien ships, then where do you draw a line between their existence and what they would do to humans?

The abductions are simply another aspect of why UFOs will not be acknowledged until it is impossible to keep the truth contained. But the horror was there and lingers in some if unreported in general. The day will come when abductees, such as myself, will simply die, often with their stories intact, untold. In the final analysis it will be in the best interest of of two very different camps.

Alliances with ETs will blossom eventually. All you have to do is to look at the far worse atrocities of wars, for example, WWII, and remark on the relationship between former enemies that swiftly move from hatred to friendship and intimate cooperation. Your world is changing right in front of your face and you don't see any of it.



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 01:56 PM
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Hypnotic regression can be a useful tool. It is useful if you understand the memories you are bringing to the surface are from the perspective of the client. Meaning they aren't necessarily correct or incorrect. They are that persons perceptions of the event in question.

Regression can also be useless in the hands of an incompetent practitioner. Under hypnosis the client is susceptible to suggestion. The more subtle the better. Therefore, the practitioner must be exceptionally careful not to say anything to "lead" the client, or place ideas(suggestions) into their subconscious, thereby contaminating any memories of the event.

Information that comes from "regression therapy" must carefully weighed. I'm not saying it doesn't have value. I'm saying in some ways it can be better in determining what did not happen, rather than what did. Nevertheless, it is still a method worth using in conjunction with other methods of gathering information and evidence.
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posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 04:25 PM
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originally posted by: Macenroe82
My favorit abductee regression has to be stan romanek. I dont care what others say about him. For an average dude to come up with scientific formulas for space travel like he did, before fricken scientist even made the discovery, is something pretty unheard of and unique. Element 115 wast even discovered yet when romanek wrote about it. Years later, when 115 was discovered a lot of scientists started looking further into his space travel formulas. Either he is a genius hoaxer and should be working for MIT or his accounts are genuine


Hmm you may want to revise that view by looking at data not provided by Stan.











And whilst you are innocent until proven guilty......

UFO author appears in court on child pornography charges

As for the hypnotic regression video the OP is questioning I don't know who it is. I don't know why watching it like that would make anyone a psychopath either.



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 05:06 PM
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a reply to: Aliensun

That is absolutely correct. I don't believe in aliens on earth in any way shape or form. Because there are no aliens on earth. Just us earthlings.
Everything else is just bull. There is not one tiny shred of evidence anywhere. None. Anecdotes? Nope people lie. Photos? Show me one that hasn't been debunked. Radar, doesn't identify anything it just shows something is flying within its range.
I guess I'm a bit harder to fool than some.
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posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 05:21 PM
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a reply to: Putinslostshirt

As a Hypnotist/Hypnotherapist/Permanosis practitioner I have to say that hypnotic regression of any kind is sadly nonsense when it comes to proof of anything, The reason being that anytime a person is under and asked a question, albeit as passive as possible and non authoritative of any sort, the mind creates an answer to suit the question asked.

This is not to say that a person might be telling the truth of course but there is no way to tell truth from fiction using this method.



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 08:49 PM
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a reply to: mirageman
And so i stand corrected lol. Never knew the creep partied to kiddy vids. Sick $%#+



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 08:51 PM
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a reply to: XXXN3O
Do you still practise? And if so perhaps a skype hypnosis session?




posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 10:34 PM
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originally posted by: XXXN3O
a reply to: Putinslostshirt

As a Hypnotist/Hypnotherapist/Permanosis practitioner I have to say that hypnotic regression of any kind is sadly nonsense when it comes to proof of anything, The reason being that anytime a person is under and asked a question, albeit as passive as possible and non authoritative of any sort, the mind creates an answer to suit the question asked.

This is not to say that a person might be telling the truth of course but there is no way to tell truth from fiction using this method.





I think you have hit the nail on the head with your response. I've had hypnosis for therapeutic purposes, but not for regression. I experienced a kind of "fugue state" where I could have come up with a story of any kind, had I the intention of doing so. I think this is a scary way to try and figure out "reality" because its the realm of Archetypes and Dreams - you may get truth, but it may be wearing symbolic clothing...

My two cents.

- AB



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 11:56 PM
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originally posted by: Aliensun

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
So simple solution is stop watching that nonsense in the first place. None of its true. Don't waste your emotions on these vids which are geared to get just such a response from people.


To be so adamant, you must also believe that ET UFOs don't exist in any way, shape, manner or form here at Earth. And to reach that emphatic conclusion you have to refuse to accept countless account from military pilots, photos, radar returns and sightings from ordinary citizens from over half a century.

And to do that enormous task with a dismissive wave of the hand or a few words in this case, means that your mind already is made up about any aspect of UFOs. So that is your position of authority, the same as the governments? And if you stammer to say that you believe in some UFOs being alien ships, then where do you draw a line between their existence and what they would do to humans?

The abductions are simply another aspect of why UFOs will not be acknowledged until it is impossible to keep the truth contained. But the horror was there and lingers in some if unreported in general. The day will come when abductees, such as myself, will simply die, often with their stories intact, untold. In the final analysis it will be in the best interest of of two very different camps.

Alliances with ETs will blossom eventually. All you have to do is to look at the far worse atrocities of wars, for example, WWII, and remark on the relationship between former enemies that swiftly move from hatred to friendship and intimate cooperation. Your world is changing right in front of your face and you don't see any of it.







Great post. You're absolutely right. My mom died, never publicly revealing her profound experiences. I don't want to do the same. I'm here to testify as to my abduction experiences.



posted on Jun, 21 2015 @ 12:02 AM
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originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
a reply to: Aliensun

That is absolutely correct. I don't believe in aliens on earth in any way shape or form. Because there are no aliens on earth. Just us earthlings.
Everything else is just bull. There is not one tiny shred of evidence anywhere. None. Anecdotes? Nope people lie. Photos? Show me one that hasn't been debunked. Radar, doesn't identify anything it just shows something is flying within its range.
I guess I'm a bit harder to fool than some.


Yes, but you've done a hell of a job fooling yourself.

Alien contact is a reality, My first alien encounter was in 1966. I was there. Where were you?

You can cling to any belief system you need to, but you're not fooling anybody.



posted on Jun, 21 2015 @ 10:09 AM
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a reply to: Scdfa

Nope. You've fooled yourself. What's your investment in trying to get me to believe huh?
My first alien encounter was My Favorite Martian back in the sixties. All of earths other encounters originated in the same place.
Hollywood.



posted on Jun, 21 2015 @ 11:30 AM
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originally posted by: Macenroe82
a reply to: Unity_99

I would like to hear your experience. I know sometimes it can be intimidating writing a profund personal experience in a forum. And of course there are always ones that wont bother reading anything and just go straight to trolling.
But screw them, we are not here for those few individuals.
Please share your experience with us, the majority of us are all hear in this forum because we have the same understanding that there is more to this world than what is put in front of us.


Actually the way Ufology experiences happen is hard enough to bring up. I have posted some of them but never made a direct thread on it, mainly to be supportive of someone else's experiences, or the issue in general, but then because of the kind of reactions have to hide out from the thread for days, kind of hit and run on it, because others don't make it easy to share.

The only way this would be on topic would be in the sense of: this is why many would like to have regression, but otherwisie it would be.

But I'll try to make a capsule of some key issues in ufology.

1. They're not this nuts and bolt, conservative military type or scientific type event that the more controlled world of the ufology researchers, who often fight amongst themselves, would like to make it. James Gilliland and the Spiritual, multidimensional aspects, or when he says, we need to reach up to the hand that is reaching down, rise to the occasion. That is more like this. Though its odd, because some of my communications revealed a war going on, so it was still in the duality, and was treated as if we were, "boots on the ground" kind of thing. Something was told me in an emergency type setting, as if I remembered more than I did, and then was assured that support and outreach to those here would continue no matter what. I gathered from this, that Cosmic, Multiverse Citizens, operate in different gravities, magnetism and in these levels, those who can come in, are subject to some big power plays going on. It doesnt change the missions. Also remembered that they were not from this universe. The way that Billy Meier talks about his group being from an alternate, higher level universe. But he mangled ufology as if on a black op mission, and wedded it with Georgia Guidestones and Pseudo Religion, which really upset me.

So while there are lower levels ETs and interference, the Hero's are more higher levels reaching us, some who stay in gravity and some who can't operate here as fully.

If they can do, telepathy and projecting in, or astral types of contact, that would be preferred to sightings and having black choppers chasing.

We had the concrete, the sightings, and I had the whole range of wounds, covers moving, my son missing time while up, so tangible and corporal type, to telepathic and projections, where you see the whole thing, to being pulled and shown more. And then you don't have a clue in some of the situations whether you were in your physical body or energy body, but energy is also physical.

2. The one that was 9 days, it was a 3 part, day long contact. The first part was in the morning, and all I can say is its like having a Team that watches over you, so when you're upset they notice. This experience brought that in. I was upset for a week or longer, almost like PTSD, someone had asked questions and widened some memories of earlier abductions and was very upset. So that morning had a long, detailed communication, where I saw them in my mind, a man and woman, felt it was Alpha Centauri, knew them or recognized them, remembered that I was on those assignments, it came with some soul memories. And things were put into perspective, comparing it all to a galactic non corrupted UN, that worked on upgrades irrespective of the state of integrity of the area, so a criminal gangster run country would still have its hospitals and facilities upgraded even if they witnessed abuses and murder.

Then that evening, long after the communication, (and a contactee doesnt know what to do with contact, I don't seek it out though sometimes advocate for earth, send up SOS's for the world and nature and people, and ask questions. I treat it as intangible, therefore shelf it, avoid it if you will.) So then the tangible happened. Which is what they do with us or me. If I ignore, then the projection in occurs. As if to say, no its real, pay attention.

I opened the door and the grey was right in front of me, not a typical grey, dark dusty rose colored, with very delicate features, narrow long head, and extreme twig like body, he stared at me for a second or two, maybe a foot away from me, then twisted and leapt to the side and vanished. And I was always demanding they came to the door, and wondered how upset I'd be, but found myself extremely fascinated, just like as a child, and also very concerned we were going to be abducted.

Then the night time family abduction dream. which involved my father, my brother and all of the children to some degree, my second oldest was with my father/brother, the one who said he was dropped off. I literally saw them dropped off. My oldest son and I stood under the stars in the dream demanding they return my family and then the different contact, with a craft that I've seen before and my friend saw directly over her property and saw them looking at her and called me, years ago. A see through top. And was told this day took 9 days to complete. That they do not do time at all. I was told that I might as well come onboard and fill out a questionaire, it would only take 15 minutes.

So they give "can only call this, altered type memories" that are like the cover of a report ,and you'd have to scratch under the surface to get into the events. I want those events back. It was as if being shown, 2 different groups in the family, one came back in navy jumpsuits, sort of mechanic type outfits, dusting orange soot off them, as if they were taken to some mining operation on mars. And we were given some kind of other event, something else. Perhaps to do with Family grouping.

I want my entire family to undergo qualified regression, not black op kind.

edit to add, sorry to do so on a long post, but I have some memories, and yet bringing up the subjective and what I know is a whole different topic and post But its like a team of people from a less gravity duality universe/dimension/channel, that is Lyra to Centauri region, but really connected to many other regions and those who can lower frequency enough to come in, come in. I recognize people I've encountered here, ie, some are doing what they should be doing, and others seem far off. (a difference that can be seen between Morningmaya/Linda West and Billy Meirs for example) I can't explain this, but the curtain lifts and I remember, sometimes its when I encounter, sometimes its due to a friend and her family. For some they have to dive into lower frequency events, like bungee cord into the trenches, and try to reach others, family.

And that is a whole other area would like regression on, but suspect it may be best for it to be something we learn and practice on each other.
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posted on Jun, 21 2015 @ 12:13 PM
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Aside from Regression and Hypnosis, when you drop of some of your programs, and you're actively searching within, trying to make sense of being in a world like this, more memories come. Everyone should be doing these searches.

I was seeking and asking within before sleep, why I'm here, and remembering some aspects, since preschool days. Its giving yourself permission to remember, before sleep, asking within from Source/Creator, your Subconscious, Super Consciousness, or Larger Aspect of Soul/Higher Self, to be deprogrammed. Specifically set that intention, like in the bible, in Matthew where it talks about using talents or burying them. And Christ tells us that everything is said in metaphors that we are blind and deaf and cannot see, lest we ask for this to be healed and then we would be. That is a big clue. Ask and you shall receive. You have to intend to deprogram from all the boxes.

Meditate, pray, seek for memories. Report for Duty to your own soul, and really be honest in self evaluation of all the failings and faults you feel you have and then, don't want to let family down here, or Family above, want to do the work I came to do. And work at not buying the official stories or what people believe in religions or even metaphysics, karma traps, etc. Go with your inner knowing, and compassion, and then over time, the curtain lifts ,and real memories come in.

If regression is done, and a person is refusing to be put into any box of any kind, but freeing themselves of their boxes, then I think it could be very useful and healing.

There are so many traps here, but after remembering past life, origins in this galaxy a bit, but others, and what they're here to do, was a real eye opener, then encountering so many threads on both religion and mystery school or metaphysics that talks about karma, recycling, blaming people. And have to tell you its not about blame. The Higher Family, thinks the world of everyone here, you're all hero's. And instead of karma, they understand the highest levels of psychology, thats sort of what I've had as skills before this chunk of time on earth. Anyone going through what each person does with the programming turns out roughly the same, overall. Don't blame anyone, they're hero's. The ones running this planet off planet, and on, the so called elite are infected with a particular form of mental illness, they're psychopaths and try to establish blame within the souls of people rather than give them hope and bring out their Love/Forgiveness/Understanding. No one here, not even the worst criminal, is seen as anything other than a moonie victims and yet their experiences are golden, they inform and teach everyone in existence, what each path results in. But that learning from every path, isn't something that is supposed to be put into practice. Its a dark sided learning method and attempt at soul slavery, and attempt that is being righted every day by those who can see, understand and won't let people be victimized by this group.

Hence on lower levels alot of work to done, and lots of volunteering to do it, both inside the systems and without.

Memories come back in part, or fuller, for those seeking them, and deprogramming gets the jackpot for the seeker of having the curtain lift at times. And that is the real jackpot.

And you're all hero's! All of you, no matter what you've fallen into, or what you believe. Please stop having punitive thoughts for one another and honor the inner child and love/light and consciousness within all.



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