Jon Stewart Says He Can't Tell Jokes After Charleston Church Shooting

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

Exactly.

I often wonder about the people who claim that racism is "dead" or "dying out" when you can see that is still overwhelmingly rampant in North America. Though, I find those people are usually the same ones who like to use that classic "I'm not racist, but..."

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Can anyone confirm this? That South Carolina has no hate crime statute?

a reply to: jimmyx

hmm...how many mostly white evangelical churches have you seen, that have been blown-up, fire-bombed, or shot-up in the last 50 or so years?

Um, They probably happen a lot more than you think...But in those cases, they are either lightly reported on (or not at all), and if they are, certainly never reported on with any emphasis on race.

Here was a situation that happened in my city not too long ago at "New Life Church".

2007 Colorado YWAM and New Life shootings

Just last month one happened at a Mormon church in Arizona. I only heard about it because my aunt is a very devout Mormon who brought it up. Never saw anything about it on the news.

Suspect killed by police after shooting at Mormon stake center

Since our government has been trying to do something about racism for the last 50 years I'd have to say they have no clue what they're doing. They have all kinds of programs in our schools and teachers workshops yet it seems like it's the kids that are coming out the worse for it.

I'm in my 50's and will admit to being racist as a kid. That changed as I grew older but not because anyone told us or taught us not to be. It was from having daily experiences and working with people that changed my attitudes. Having the KKK parade down the streets really gave me a good shove in the right direction.

I honestly think that's the only way racism will go away - like it did for me. Until people spend time with ethnic groups not their own their misconceptions and fear will still be there.

I have seen progress in racial relations in the 70's, 80's, 90's and 2000's but not since Obama became President.
Is that just my perception or do others feel the same?

How come Stewart was able to still tell jokes with the other shooting massacres.

a reply to: SubTruth

Yet, just a few days ago a white racist walked into a church and killed 9 black people, because they were black, because he felt they were taking over the country and raping white women and all his scary facts about black people seems to have come from people and sites on the internet.

We aren't supposed to talk about that? We aren't supposed to talk about that the fact that racism can turn deadly? Clearly racism is not in the past. You can try to hide from it... no one will stop you. Some of the rest of us will choose to confront it.

a reply to: Wookiep

That Colorado shooting was talked about for days in the media.

a reply to: Jobeycool

What jokes did he tell about the other ones?

Well, actually I am sure at this point he has, but was it the first episode after the attack that he did?

I don't recall him cracking jokes about any of the more recent shootings.

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: beezzer
We should not be defined by how a few depraved individuals act.

We should be defined by how we respond when a few depraved individuals act.

you're right...I think black people should form the AARA, the African-American rifle Association, get law-abiding people to sign up for concealed-carry, buy AR's, 45's, 357's, semi-auto shotguns, and "open carry" around all African-American events and venues. praying and asking the government to do something, never has worked.

They do. They get stopped by the cops and told to lay on the ground and lay their AR-15's on the ground next to them. Doesn't matter how many times the person says they have an open carry license. Next thing you know back up has arrived in the form of 5 squad cars and they're all pointing their guns while some shouting dude inches up and moves the gun away with his foot.

The problem with Stewart is he puts it ALL down to race, and dismisses the reality of SSRIs causing these shootings. In every case of mass shootings in the U.S. in the past 3 decades, SSRIs were involved.

“I hate to even use this pun, but this one is black and white. There’s no nuance here.”

If only it was as simple as Leibowitz - er, I mean Stewart is claiming.

Interesting link here:

SSRI Stories is a collection of over 6,000 stories that have appeared in the media (newspapers, TV, scientific journals) in which prescription drugs were mentioned and in which the drugs may be linked to a variety of adverse outcomes including violence.

ssristories.org...

So Stewart says we do nothing about these things. Okay, fine. What are we supposed to do? Blacks kill far more blacks and whites in the U.S., and much of it is related to race. So maybe blacks can jump in at anytime and help with a solution?

And blaming guns? Stupid. Really stupid. Absolutely stupid. Guns don't kill people. People on SSRIs kill people.

And Jon Stewart's real name is Leibowitz. What's up with that? Why does he have to use a fake name?

originally posted by: okrian
We must acknowledge the way we, as a country, have treated black people in America. It's inexcusable. And you know what... I'm really surprised they aren't a whole lot more angry.

Apparently you have no clue as to how blacks are treating whites in America. Look up some stats, Sparky. You might be shocked at just how angry AND VIOLENT many blacks are towards whites.

originally posted by: JRCrowley
And Jon Stewart's real name is Leibowitz. What's up with that? Why does he have to use a fake name?

Yah, cuz even in show biz, real men use their own name, right?


What do you figure? Cuz Stewart's a secret Joo?

I swear, this thread keeps proving its premise over and over again.

Oh, and just for the record "Aleister" was not your avatar's real name...it was Edward Alexander Crowley.

a reply to: JRCrowley

Another person that has not watched his show or that seems to be following the current case.

Stewart has absolutely brought the meds into question from past shootings.

This shooting how ever doesn't not have the SSRI's.

He was on suboxone, witch is an anti-addiction pill.

originally posted by: JRCrowley

originally posted by: okrian
We must acknowledge the way we, as a country, have treated black people in America. It's inexcusable. And you know what... I'm really surprised they aren't a whole lot more angry.

Apparently you have no clue as to how blacks are treating whites in America. Look up some stats, Sparky. You might be shocked at just how angry AND VIOLENT many blacks are towards whites.

Why don't you show it?

a reply to: JRCrowley

So, the shooter wasn't a racist, didn't wear a Rhodesian badge, say the black community aren't "taking over the country and raping white women"

Didn't tell people he wanted to start a war.

It worries me an individual like yourself can change in your minds dialogue the shooters own confessed premise that he was a racist, to your very dark way of thinking instead. I'll be honest I find it disturbing.

Why are you supporting him?

originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: JRCrowley

So, the shooter wasn't a racist, didn't wear a Rhodesian badge, say the black community aren't "taking over the country and raping white women"

Didn't tell people he wanted to start a war.

It worries me an individual like yourself can change in your minds dialogue the shooters own confessed premise that he was a racist, to your very dark way of thinking instead.

Why are you supporting him?

Sounds like JRCrowley is attempting to place the blame on everything but racism.

His remark about how blacks are treating whites is apparently an attempt to make this attack justified.

Bill Maher Blames Right-Wing Media For Charleston: ‘They Present a Really Twisted View’

“Well, we can never tell why someone snaps, but I bet you I can tell ya where he got his news,” Maher said. “I looked at [The Daily Caller] the last week, it was a lot of stories about black people. Same with Matt Drudge. I think they present a really twisted view. I’m not surprised this guy thought they’re ‘taking over the country.’ Obviously, he has a warped mind, that’s going into it, but I don’t think it was video games. And I do think the media is responsible to a degree. I wouldn’t say we should be droning Fox News, but we did drone Anwar al-Awlaki because he inspired people. He didn’t do terrorist acts, he just inspired them.”

“On Fox News, they could not decide if this was absolutely not the right time to talk about guns, or absolutely not the right time to talk about racism,” Maher continued. “And yet, you know, the shooter purposely went to a black church, he told the victims he had to do it because they were ‘taking over,’ he wore pro-Apartheid stickers on his jacket, his friends said he was big into segregation, he talked about starting ‘a race war,’ so naturally, when it comes to what motivated him, Republicans are stumped. They are. They cannot figure it out!

I totally agree. Conservative media is likely one of the inspirations of these acts. Their media love to paint the black person as an animal.

When ever a black person is shot by police, they go all out in an attempt to demonize the victims, to show that these killings were justified.

For this guy they are going all out to prove it was mental illness, drugs..etc..everything but racism.

a reply to: zazzafrazz

Ya it is really troubling the lengths people are going to talk about everything but the obvious...

a reply to: JRCrowley

No, this is a blatant race issue. The guy was a known white supremacist who harbored deed seeded hatred for African Americans. Stop trying to deflect from it.

Racism is real, and it's an issue.

originally posted by: JRCrowley

originally posted by: okrian
We must acknowledge the way we, as a country, have treated black people in America. It's inexcusable. And you know what... I'm really surprised they aren't a whole lot more angry.

Apparently you have no clue as to how blacks are treating whites in America. Look up some stats, Sparky. You might be shocked at just how angry AND VIOLENT many blacks are towards whites.

Welcome to the other side of the coin. It shouldn't be surprising to see negativity or even violence erupt from a group that has been oppressed for almost 400 years. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 only desegregated the population but it didn't mean that discrimination died overnight. If that were the case there needn't be the march at Selma. When interracial marriage became legal in 1967, it didn't mean suddenly everyone was okay to see white people marrying black people. There were people who feverishly believed in purity of race bulls**t and unfortunately it is a belief system that hasn't entirely died away in present times. A couple of decades of quasi-equal treatment does not make up for three and half centuries of being treated as property, of being treated as an it.

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