What if President Obama refuses to step down?

a reply to: TinfoilTP

Uh huh. And the American people are SO in line with that(not sarcasm. Just made it an official Amendment in '47):

A few presidents unsuccessfully tried to hold their position for more than eight years. In 1880, after a three year break from the presidency, Ulysses S. Grant attempted to run again. However, he did not win his party's nomination so he was not even a choice in the final election. About two decades later, Theodore Roosevelt became the president when William McKinley was assassinated. He then served as president from 1901-1909. Three years later, he tried to become the president again; however, he lost to Woodrow Wilson.

biography.yourdictionary.com...

The American populous wouldn't tolerate that from anyone... but FDR. Hard time that though.

What if President Obama refuses to step down?

- I doubt he wants to stay there any longer than he has to.
- Michelle Obama reportedly hates living in the White House.
- Republicans would have a fit and get him out. They want one of theirs in.
- Democrats would have a fit and get him out. They want a new one of theirs in.

I'm not seeing it happening.

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Uh huh. And the American people are SO in line with that(not sarcasm. Just made it an official Amendment in '47):

A few presidents unsuccessfully tried to hold their position for more than eight years. In 1880, after a three year break from the presidency, Ulysses S. Grant attempted to run again. However, he did not win his party's nomination so he was not even a choice in the final election. About two decades later, Theodore Roosevelt became the president when William McKinley was assassinated. He then served as president from 1901-1909. Three years later, he tried to become the president again; however, he lost to Woodrow Wilson.

biography.yourdictionary.com...

The American populous wouldn't tolerate that from anyone... but FDR. Hard time that though.

But there was no constitutional amendment against it until 1951 ('47 it was only submitted it wasn't ratified till '51), and since then it is impossible for anyone to even consider it no matter how popular the President is. So, it has not ever happened since it has been disallowed by the 22nd amendment. Impossible for Obama to do so unless he gets a new Amendment ratified annulling the 22nd amendment.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

Well...think about it; The constitution only allows for two terms, so there's no possibility of him being re-elected because no state would put him on the ballot (write-ins don't count either because the state has to approve your status as a write-in candidate). He would have no power so there's no EO's or laws he could sign or enact and anything that he would try to do would be struck down by the SCOTUS. Now that leaves the family just hanging around the building, essentially trespassing, so he'd be escorted off the premises where he could then go to his Chicago home. Maybe even to his Hawaii home.

There's literally nothing he could do to stay and no way anyone would let him. It seems a little straightforward so I'm a little taken aback that you'd even have to ask the question.

originally posted by: TinfoilTP
Impossible for Obama to do so unless he gets a new Amendment ratified annulling the 22nd amendment.

And with the track record of the American populous, how likely would it be to get that to happen? Never. Doesn't that take 2/3 of the states to ratify it? Again... never.

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: TinfoilTP
Impossible for Obama to do so unless he gets a new Amendment ratified annulling the 22nd amendment.

And with the track record of the American populous, how likely would it be to get that to happen? Never. Doesn't that take 2/3 of the states to ratify it? Again... never.

Exactly, it never happened before and it will most likely never happen. By the time such an amendment were to be ratified the one seeking it would be insignificant and out of the picture.

a reply to: intrepid

...and Clinton.

It simply isn't going to happen. You want to wake up an apathetic populous, that'd probably, almost certainly I daresay, do it.

Seeing the in built racism in US cops (and please dont deny it) im pretty sure the police inDC would relish the thought of marching into the WH and shooting a "thug".

Obama woukd be better ofg takeing his chances with the secret service.

Between US police and the armed forces he has pissed off a coup us out the queation.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

OK, let's assume that somehow or other he refused to step down.

Instant constitutional crisis. Seems to me, that the military/law enforcement would be instantly obligated to remove him by whatever means were necessary. Up to and including, killing him. Certainly arresting him. Then a trial for treason, I suppose.

There is no way he could make that stick without the help of the military. ...and given how the rank and file feel about him, the ones I know anyway, that's not going to happen.

a reply to: crazyewok

...Seeing the in built racism in US cops (and please dont deny it)...

How about we ease off on the over the top hyperbole? Some yes, but you're implying something else.

The problem isn't about Obama arrogantly not leaving,

it's about Obama creating a "crisis" and cancelling the elections and taking over key infrastructures.

The military would play a major role.

a reply to: crazyewok

Perhaps if Metropolitan PD wasn't staffed by a majority of black officers....

They're probably just like, super duper self loathing racists though.

a reply to: xuenchen

Oh, yeah, that's likely to happen, too...

*sigh* Just like Bush manufactured a "crisis". ...and Clinton. Oh, and that other Bush, too.

It simply isn't going to happen.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: intrepid
Yeah, yeah. The same was said about Bush 8 years ago. It was as ridiculous then as it is now. NO ONE would accept that.

I can only hope Obama is that helpful to Rand Paul.

I can easily picture obama walking out the door saying " LOL It's your mess now, good luck trying to clean it up."

originally posted by: xuenchen
The problem isn't about Obama arrogantly not leaving,

it's about Obama creating a "crisis" and cancelling the elections and taking over key infrastructures.

The military would play a major role.

And this is about the amount of seriousness we should give these meanderings:

As others have mentioned the same thing was being said about Bush 8 years ago. Even with the biggest financial crisis this country has seen in 70 years Bush didn't even try. The only thing that would possibly allow for Obama to stay an extra term would be a national emergency worse than WWII. Even then he would probably have to get congressional approval and what not.

Even though it is technically unconstitutional now, FDR was elected for 4 terms. So perhaps in the future it could happen but you would have to repeal term limits, win the election, and have a national crisis to justify all this.

a reply to: intrepid

My pancakes just don't ever turn out like that.

On topic: We will be screwed on January 20, 2017. We will get a new POTUS.
Either Hillary or Jeb.
Either way we will be screwed, and I predict either will be just as bad as Obama.

Obama is a master of never letting a crisis going to waste.

I bet he's thinking hard and deep. So is Valerie Jarrett.

Emergency Powers Give Barack Obama Authority Over Just About Everything During A Major National Crisis

a reply to: intrepid

Don't you like conspiracies anymore?

a reply to: xuenchen

A conspiracy THEORY is supposed to be a hypothesis. A hypothesis has at least SOME level of evidence to support one's thinking.

Wild speculation and maybes isn't quite up to snuff.