FBI Declassified UFO Related Document - Earth has been visited.

a reply to: Thanatos0042

Well, it's right in line with a lot of other things I have read, so thanks for the post and bringing this civilian letter to my attention.

a reply to: Thanatos0042

Hmm... The FBI vault, full of all the letters they have received from crackpots over the years...

So I just saw some clouds that were formed in the shape of alien heads. I tried taking pictures but my camera is not able to get night shots. The clouds were formed as the small, round head, big eyed, and small chinned ones. I had my roommates to confirm it just to be sure I was not hallucinating. Has anyone else seen this tonight?

This was an interesting piece. It's interesting, makes me wonder if people would actually send a fake letter but for what reason? What significant gain is there to get to send this to the FBI to get investigated(I assume) rather than to take it all over the place for his moment of fame?

originally posted by: htapath
Some of us are peaceful, which is why disclosure happens on mostly an individual basis.

If you haven't been enlightened on this subject yet, perhaps a change of heart is in order.

Radiate love and treat others as you wish to be treated. 'They' only show themselves to certain people for a reason.

And this will continue to happen, regardless of how ATS feels about it.

Think twice before deciding you want to meet them. I'm a life long abductee, it is not a pleasant experience.

Here's how I sum them up. Think about a group of scientists studying some animals in the wilderness. Every now and then we tranq a few put them in a lab and do some experiments on them. Sometimes that includes medicine to improve their quality of life, sometimes it's a tracking chip, and sometimes it's just an examination. In any event we don't mean them any harm but should the animal be conscious for some of it, it's quite traumatic. If it's a long captivity we might even play with them a bit. When everything is over we release them.

Aliens, at least the greys are pretty much the same with humans.

They have the power, if they wanted us dead we would be dead. So by that metric at least I think it's safe to say they aren't here to kill us.

it looks like something recieved by the FBI from a party outside the Bureau

Exactly.

Not the belief or position of the FBI.

At that time, they pretty much collected all they could on the subject.

From all appearances, this was sent TO them, from someone claiming to have obtained the information through "paranormal" means, which if I recall correctly, was through "channeling"....

Still interesting though, but what's more interesting is the writer's choice of words which make it sound as if he's constantly guessing (i.e. he's creating a fiction, not relaying information he believes).

originally posted by: Gazrok

Still interesting though, but what's more interesting is the writer's choice of words which make it sound as if he's constantly guessing (i.e. he's creating a fiction, not relaying information he believes).

I never noticed that till just now, I guess he's trying to keep character as if he's "Recalling" what was channeled to him

originally posted by: CardDown
This is not a FBI report, just something they stuck in their files. It's from Round Robin, published by Meade Layne of Borderland Sciences Research Associates, a mystical organization.
borderlandsciences.org...

They have other silly stuff. See it and the others at page 22 in this folder.
vault.fbi.gov...

Yesh,......i'm taking you comment s sarcasm being i didn't check the other silly stuff..but...if you are not being sarcastic...then i find it ...

Intresting they kept this 'silly stuff' locked away from the public for 50+ years......you make it sound like the FBI is a bunch of completely unprofesdional / uneducated people taken off the street at random...

originally posted by: IMSAM
We got already 3 and more threads on this.....

www.abovetopsecret.com...&mem=


www.abovetopsecret.com...&mem=


www.abovetopsecret.com...



Btw its not an FBI memo,its a letter someone wrote to the FBI nothing to see here

And the FBI kept it hidden from public for 50 ....

YEARS....

ETA: OH, AMD THEY BLACKED OUT PORTIONS THAT WERE OF NATIONAL SECURITY.....

a reply to: Brainiac

Except, if another ATS member is right and the author is meade layne, then that gives some credibility because he apparently was a professor, head of English department and founded borderline science research associates (according to Wikipedia). He could have been making it up to hype up his ufology work, or could have some truth to him. Bottomline.. He want just a crackpot nobody. I know Wikipedia isn't a reliable source but I don't see the point of putting time to check this dude out if people are going to have that *meh, he probably made it up* apathetic outlook. Plus im writing on this horrible google tablet which autocorrect you even after you turned it off.

originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: htapath
Some of us are peaceful, which is why disclosure happens on mostly an individual basis.

If you haven't been enlightened on this subject yet, perhaps a change of heart is in order.

Radiate love and treat others as you wish to be treated. 'They' only show themselves to certain people for a reason.

And this will continue to happen, regardless of how ATS feels about it.

Think twice before deciding you want to meet them. I'm a life long abductee, it is not a pleasant experience.

Here's how I sum them up. Think about a group of scientists studying some animals in the wilderness. Every now and then we tranq a few put them in a lab and do some experiments on them. Sometimes that includes medicine to improve their quality of life, sometimes it's a tracking chip, and sometimes it's just an examination. In any event we don't mean them any harm but should the animal be conscious for some of it, it's quite traumatic. If it's a long captivity we might even play with them a bit. When everything is over we release them.

Aliens, at least the greys are pretty much the same with humans.

They have the power, if they wanted us dead we would be dead. So by that metric at least I think it's safe to say they aren't here to kill us.

I've not had any negative emotions relating to my sightings and encounters as yet. For me, it has been more of a positive and eye opening experience each time.

I'm not discounting your post in any way, however. The spectrum of possibilities is broad. All we really have to go on is shared personal accounts.

originally posted by: Thanatos0042
Greetings all,

I've never started a thread before, so please be kind

I discovered this article this morning:

Declassified FBI Document: Earth Visited by UFOs

The actual document at the FBI Vault can be found here.

For your perusal:

Here is a transcript of some of the most important details of the report:

1. Part of the disks carry crews, others are under remote control

2. Their mission is peaceful. The visitors contemplate settling on this plane

3. These visitors are human-like but much larger in size

4. They are not excarnate Earth people, but come from their own world

5. They do NOT come from a planet as we use the word, but from an etheric planet which interpenetrates with our own and is not perceptible to us

6. The bodies of the visitors, and the craft, automatically materialize on entering the vibratory rate of our dense matter

7. The disks posses a type of radiant energy or a ray, which will easily disintegrate any attacking ship. They reenter the etheric at will, and so simply disappear from our vision, without trace

8. The region from which they come is not the “astral plane”, but corresponds to the Lokas or Talas. Students of osoteric matters will understand these terms.

9. They probably can not be reached by radio, but probably can be by radar. if a signal system can be devised for that

I don't know how credible or reliable the first link's website is, but I am just presenting the article for what it is - an interesting read (at least, that is what I thought) and something I didn't already see covered here.

I did go look at the FBI vault files, but the document scans are not very good and my eyesight is even less good, so I couldn't make heads or tails of anything written in them.

Still, pretty cool in my opinion.

Lost me at Radio and Radar...uh...same thing pretty much,

Seems to me that the government would be interested or alarmed at the fact that Unidentified Flying Objects are being spotted over the skies of the USA and elsewhere. Nobody can agree on what they are, but they are real.

All the way back to WWII when fighter pilots would spot balls of light that would somehow interfere with their gauges and equipment.

The government wouldn't ever tell us about a possible threat in the skies that they have no control over.

Majestic 12 has been scrutinized and considered questionable along with the Roswell incident and Project Blue Book. Really, we have a failure to understand or come to a real conclusion about what these objects are.

Now, they either know about it and think we can't handle the truth, or they are somehow profiting and exchanging things. Human abductions for example. They may need us to survive while we use them for technological advances. Either way, I think if these extraterrestrials exists, they are not benevolent.

Here's a list of the efforts made by the U.S. government to investigate UFOs.

Declassified FBI Documents *Link*

Vault Home • Unexplained Phenomenon
Unexplained Phenomenon
04.20.11

Silas M. Newton
Silas Newton (1887-1972) was a wealthy oil producer and con-man who claimed that he had a gadget that could detect minerals and oil. He was cited as an authority in Frank Scully’s book Behind the Flying Saucers, a work that claimed to report on several UFO crashes in the area of New Mexico. In 1950, Newton said that a flying saucer crashed on land he leased in the Mojave Desert; however, he revised his claim in 1952, saying he never saw a flying saucer but had only repeated comments he heard from others. These files detail the FBI’s investigations into Newton’s fraudulent activities between 1951 and 1970.
12.06.10

Guy Hottel
Guy Hottel was a special agent in charge of the FBI's Washington Field Office. The information concerning Mr. Hottel is in regard to a March 22, 1950 memo he sent to the FBI Director concerning flying saucers. See: www.fbi.gov... for more information.
12.06.10

Majestic 12
Majestic 12 In 1988, two FBI offices received similar versions of a memo titled “Operation Majestic-12…” claiming to be highly classified government document. The memo appeared to be a briefing for newly-elected President Eisenhower on a secret committee created to exploit a recovery of an extra-terrestrial aircraft and cover-up this work from public examination. An Air Force investigation determined the document to be a fake.
12.06.10

National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena (NICAP)
National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena (NICAP) The National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena, NICAP, was founded in the 1950s to research reports of UFO phenomenon. Between 1957 and 1969, NICAP and its members periodically communicated with the FBI. This release consists of this correspondence.
12.06.10

Roswell UFO
On July 8, 1947, the FBI Dallas Field Office sent a teletype regarding a “flying disc” that resembled a high altitude weather balloon found near Roswell, New Mexico. This single page is a serial from the larger UFO release found at vault.fbi.gov...
12.06.10

Animal Mutilation
Animal/Cattle Mutilation In the mid-1970s, reports of scattered animal mutilations in western and mid-western states concerned many people. The FBI was asked to investigate, but was unable to do so because of a lack of jurisdiction (except when such mutilations were found on Indian lands). These files consist mainly of press clippings and correspondence concerning the issues between 1974 and 1978.
12.06.10

Extra-Sensory Perception
ESP is considered a perception of information about events beyond what may be discerned through the five physical senses or deduced from past experience or knowledge. This release consists of cross references to ESP found in FBI files from 1957 to 1960. Several of the documents concern William Foos, a proponent of ESP. Others concern claims that ESP could be used in espionage investigations. The FBI found no scientific support for this or other claims and did not pursue the matters raised in these references.
11.30.10

UFO
In 1947, a rash of sightings of unexplained flying objects (UFOs) swept America. Although the newly formed U.S. Air Force was the primary investigator of these sightings, the FBI received many reports and worked for a time with the Air Force to investigate these matters. This release details the FBI’s role in investigating such reports between 1947 and 1954.
11.30.10

Project Blue Book (UFO)
Project Blue Book Originally Project Blue Book was the Air Force name for a project that investigated UFO reports between 1947 and 1969. In 1989, an organization calling itself “The New Project Blue Book” contacted the FBI. This file consists of correspondence concerning this organization.

Round-robin (document), a document signed by several parties in a circle in order to hide the identity of the leader


I found that interesting. I think guys intrested in history specially specific themes would know 'round robin'. I would be curious if internal documents or inter agency communications used this 'round robin' method to avoid embarrassment. An outsider could use it as a guise for further review and respect though too.

I find it curious esoteric is misspelled. Unless there is some term I or google doesn't know 'osteric'?

Talas and Lokas I believe are both references within Buddhism and reflects on the writers personal belief system. Also saying they are on a different plane or overlapping dimension. One could argue spirits.

I'm not trying to destroy the writer or source of the document but I believe it's written based on personal belief and possibly personal experience but no particular event in nation's history is referenced.


a reply to: Thanatos0042

a reply to: intrptr

Until you see one yourself. Then it isn't about believing anymore, you've become a witness.

Are you writing a book title? Great line. I almost want to make this my signature. .

Here is an interesting FBI memo that outright talks about flying saucers recovered from New Mexico.



I apologize I forget where I recovered it from, I think I took a screen shot from some movie like "Out of the Blue" or one of those ones that can be seen on the UFO disclosure network.

Anyway, if this memo is authentic, it is pretty good evidence.

originally posted by: 0bserver1
a reply to: intrptr

Until you see one yourself. Then it isn't about believing anymore, you've become a witness.

Are you writing a book title? Great line. I almost want to make this my signature. .

Thats from personal experience, I don't now the rights to anything i say here.

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Brotherman

I don't think anything like this is true.

Until you see one yourself. Then it isn't about believing anymore, you've become a witness.

Until you see what? What did you witness? An alien being? A UFO?

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
Here is an interesting FBI memo that outright talks about flying saucers recovered from New Mexico.

I apologize I forget where I recovered it from, I think I took a screen shot from some movie like "Out of the Blue" or one of those ones that can be seen on the UFO disclosure network.

Anyway, if this memo is authentic, it is pretty good evidence.

It's "authentic", but as far as evidence goes, it's about as lousy as it gets, as it's just a re-telling of an 8th hand account....
For more information, see here.

a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

Well, it was written by an SAC and sent directly to the Director of the FBI, I don't think an SAC would waste the director's time unless they thought there was something to it.

Of course there is also Herbert Hoover's written memo about disc's, saying "we must insist upon full access to disc's recovered" and "for instance in the LA case the army grabbed it" referring to the Battle of LA UFO incident.

Anyway, it is very telling that the director of the FBI was obviously very interested in these flying saucers in the late 1940's, he would have been told if this was US secret tech, no other country had anything resembling this level of technology at this time, a good case can be made with all the high tech and secrecy that this was EBE tech.