Lauren Southern clashes with feminists at SlutWalk

a reply to: orangetom1999

Pointing out that rape is still an issue in this country is "creating bad guys"? Pointing out new and interesting ways racism happens is "creating bad guys"? Wow, that certainly shows a lack of understanding on both of those subjects.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: orangetom1999

Pointing out that rape is still an issue in this country is "creating bad guys"? Pointing out new and interesting ways racism happens is "creating bad guys"? Wow, that certainly shows a lack of understanding on both of those subjects.

It is when it is obviously turned into a cottage industry ..by this same creating bad guys technique. And I don't find racism interesting..I find it insulting.

And recent disclosures by alternative media...have shown that some of these rape cases do not have merit..but took front page news in addition to running lives and careers. People are becoming wary of the next cry by these groups to scream "Wolf."
My point is that some of these groups are becoming so desperate that they are shooting themselves in the foot..and don't even realize it.

As I said...the same movie 50 times over..the same pattern...creating bad guy in the news media...for votes.



Wait a minute....I'd almost forgotten....something happened just recently in the media..which caused me to laugh so hard...I almost fell out of my chair at the irony!!!

Something in the racism cottage industry about a woman who has been teaching black causes and racism for years and years and only recently lost her position ..because she was ousted as white. What an irony...racism in a anti racism cause. I think it was an NAACP position some where.

I don't remember the name but I could look it up..but it is recent. It made the whole thing laughable..and demonstrated the point I was making about a cottage industry...being the thing it claims to be against. The very pattern of operation.

The Victim dictum and creating bad guys...while claiming to be creating a equal world...one fabricated crisis at a time.
It backfired on them...just like the women's movements.

Don't worry..it will not be presented in the media for the backfire that it is. Just like the womens movements.
Like I said...they are all run and steered at the top levels by the same sponsors and controllers...for votes. They have to be protected from common sense and individual thinking.

Orangetom

a reply to: orangetom1999

One of the many tactics of disinformation agents is to find the craziest people in a controversial group and try to get people to associate the movement with those people. That doesn't mean that that group doesn't have legitimate points though, and I'd say that your post is a prime example of falling for that propaganda technique. Racism and sexism are still VERY much real issues in this country. Yes, there are crazies in each of those groups doing crazy crap, but there are crazy people in EVERY walk of life.

For instance, downplaying the rape culture in this country because a few women feigned rape for their own selfish reasons shows that you are feeding into the propaganda. That is the point I am getting at here. Feminism HASN'T morphed into women trying to be over men. Naturally, there are feminists who DO want that, but they are a minority. Feminists just want the same things men have. That's all.

a reply to: Krazysh0t


Really!!!

Feminists just want the same things men have. That's all.

Really...they want the risks which go with it...disposability and expendability..without having a voice in it??

Wondering how much equality the average woman out there really wants.

I don't think they want that much equality..and then turn over the monies to their men for the men's discretionary disposal after risking their lives in earning it.


And the rape culture in this country is a sales pitch...to make matters appear worse than they are. This has been demonstrated on a number of colleges today...including the Duke Lacrosse team years ago. And that one promoted heavily by the usual racist cottage industry mouthpieces.

Contrary to popular crisis management techniques today...there are actually a majority of people out here who do not want to wake up every day to being lectured by the rape cottage industry..nor the race cottage industry nor the sex/ sexualty industry.

We are not interested in people who can only define who and what they are by their sex..and sexuality. For we think people are more than that ..much much more. The same way we think people are so much more than race and racism. We tire of being beaten over the head with it 24/7 and being told to march to this tune or that tune...also the media and pseudo leadership which pimps this out for votes.

The problem is that most of the media and leadership do not want to listen to this majority because their votes are not that easily controlled. They have been fooled enough. They are not that controllable ..emotionally...for a vote.

If it is up to pseudo leadership and its pimps in the media...the public will never ever get enough information's to cut their control emotional puppet strings.

And it is become obvious to those who can still think for themselves..that there are crazys aplenty in these three groups and many of them in leadership positions. They occasionally get caught..but the media and that same pseudo leadership..covers up for them as long as they are useful. Cindy Sheehan became not useful to them.


Thanks,
Orangetom

originally posted by: orangetom1999
Really...they want the risks which go with it...disposability and expendability..without having a voice in it??

Wondering how much equality the average woman out there really wants.

I'm sure there are more women than you are aware of that understand and are ready for the risks and downsides that come with equality and independence.

I don't think they want that much equality..and then turn over the monies to their men for the men's discretionary disposal after risking their lives in earning it.

I think this is a sexist statement. For one, women don't necessarily need to take all the men's paycheck anymore, because MOST women have jobs of their own now. This isn't the 1950's where women do housework all day while the man brings home a paycheck. You may want to update your thinking a bit.

For two, even IF we are discussing a household that shares its income OR the dad is a stay at home dad, even THOSE exist and women are prepared to let happen. The number of stay at home dads is on the rises in fact.

And the rape culture in this country is a sales pitch...to make matters appear worse than they are. This has been demonstrated on a number of colleges today...including the Duke Lacrosse team years ago. And that one promoted heavily by the usual racist cottage industry mouthpieces.

See this is what I'm talking about. A few extreme examples sour the punch bowl for you, and now you pretend like all these grievances of rape across the country are just a boy crying wolf.

Contrary to popular crisis management techniques today...there are actually a majority of people out here who do not want to wake up every day to being lectured by the rape cottage industry..nor the race cottage industry nor the sex/ sexualty industry.

Who is lecturing you everyday about these things? I don't get lectured on any of those things. I see stories expressing the plights of these groups and I sympathize with them, but I don't get lectured on anything. I'm not adverse to reading the truth as you appear to be. Though I understand, reading the truth can be painful if it is something you don't like seeing. Ignoring it won't make it go away though. That was the 1950's way, and as we've seen the 1950's way doesn't solve anything. It just makes the problem fester and boil over until you have crazy women taking the feminist movement too far.

We are not interested in people who can only define who and what they are by their sex..and sexuality. For we think people are more than that ..much much more. The same way we think people are so much more than race and racism. We tire of being beaten over the head with it 24/7 and being told to march to this tune or that tune...also the media and pseudo leadership which pimps this out for votes.

The people who define people by their sex and sexuality are the bigots that hate on them. If we were all seen as equal, there would BE no distinct groups of people. Unfortunately that isn't the case, so we MUST talk about these issues until all the groups ARE equal. AGAIN not talking about it DOESN'T fix the problem. It just makes you think you are secure in your bubble of privilege while others suffer.

The problem is that most of the media and leadership do not want to listen to this majority because their votes are not that easily controlled. They have been fooled enough. They are not that controllable ..emotionally...for a vote.

This is complete nonsense. There is a whole party that listens to the opinions of the bigots on a regular basis AND regularly tries to pass legislation that appeals to the white male voter. The Republican party literally CATERS to the white male and his desire to see no evil or hear no evil.

If it is up to pseudo leadership and its pimps in the media...the public will never ever get enough information's to cut their control emotional puppet strings.

Oh PLEASE! Both sides of the political spectrum use emotional rhetoric to appeal to their base. Don't pretend like it is JUST the SJW's that do it.

And it is become obvious to those who can still think for themselves..that there are crazys aplenty in these three groups and many of them in leadership positions. They occasionally get caught..but the media and that same pseudo leadership..covers up for them as long as they are useful. Cindy Sheehan became not useful to them.


Thanks,
Orangetom

Bullcrap! Again there are crazies in every group that make the group look bad. That DOESN'T mean their cause is a bad cause though.

Krazysh0t,

I'm sure there are more women than you are aware of that understand and are ready for the risks and downsides that come with equality and independence.

Really..!! You do know that when the Soviets instituted equality for women and they finished with this program the women in Soviet Russia lived on the average two years less in length than the males..yes???

Are todays feminists arguing and debating for this much equality?? At the same time turning over generous amounts of their production to the men for their discretionary spending??? This is in fact what goes on in Russia..in places even today.
The men don't work..the women do. Is todays savvy feminist looking for this much equality as career opportunity???
By Government decree??? Title IX etc etc.
You can find this information in "Sex and Power in history by Amaury De Riencourt .
And among people in the know...about history ..the Marxists and Socialists have been behind the Feminist movements in the west since the Early 1960s. You can find this information in Erin Pizzey's book.."This Way to the Revolution..where Erin describes the early days of the women's movement in the UK.

As a mattern of fact...Erin Pizzey has videos on U Tube warning of what has happened to the Feminist movements and how they have been hijacked today...stolen ..taken over to a very subversive template.

I don't think they want that much equality..and then turn over the monies to their men for the men's discretionary disposal after risking their lives in earning it.

I think this is a sexist statement. For one, women don't necessarily need to take all the men's paycheck anymore, because MOST women have jobs of their own now. This isn't the 1950's where women do housework all day while the man brings home a paycheck. You may want to update your thinking a bit.

For two, even IF we are discussing a household that shares its income OR the dad is a stay at home dad, even THOSE exist and women are prepared to let happen. The number of stay at home dads is on the rises in fact.

LOL LOL LOL...back to the time warp technique..sticking someone back In time to make a position or stance as if it is different today. Please explain to me what woman of today..smart savvy ..intelligent woman wants to give up potential to herself if she can get it without risks..and without labor...particularly if no one sees what we are doing??? Please explain that to me.

I agree ..stay at home dads are on the rise..and it should be with women of equality. This way a male can explore his options and vulnerabilities while the female takes the risks for half or less of the benefits. In this manner she can live a shorter life as the males used to do...and call that progress...even equality.

And the rape culture in this country is a sales pitch...to make matters appear worse than they are. This has been demonstrated on a number of colleges today...including the Duke Lacrosse team years ago. And that one promoted heavily by the usual racist cottage industry mouthpieces.

See this is what I'm talking about. A few extreme examples sour the punch bowl for you, and now you pretend like all these grievances of rape across the country are just a boy crying wolf.

Now you are reaching here. I said they got caught manipulating the media and leadership. And that gets wolfie. They are carrying on as if this is widespread and it is not. They are creating bad guys in the conscience of the public for political lucre..just as is the race cottage industry..and for votes and power...lucre.

These people are become just like an afternoon talk show....take the sex and sexuality away and you have no program.

In like manner to the race Pimps like Al and Jesse. Take the race away and you have no program. They are all one trick ponies.

When you watch them over and over and over...manipulating sex and sexualty..you ask yourself what the feminists really have to offer in the marketplace outside of sex. You can see the next one coming after awhile. It has now become predictable.

One of the dumbest things the feminists have done of recent is this nonsense called Manspreading. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel. I laughed at that one too.

Continued on the next post.

They are working very hard out here to neuter and feminize the males while promoting and advancing the women sexually and in every capacity they can think of..and you can see it coming. It is become predictable.

Contrary to popular crisis management techniques today...there are actually a majority of people out here who do not want to wake up every day to being lectured by the rape cottage industry..nor the race cottage industry nor the sex/ sexualty industry.

Who is lecturing you everyday about these things? I don't get lectured on any of those things. I see stories expressing the plights of these groups and I sympathize with them, but I don't get lectured on anything. I'm not adverse to reading the truth as you appear to be. Though I understand, reading the truth can be painful if it is something you don't like seeing. Ignoring it won't make it go away though. That was the 1950's way, and as we've seen the 1950's way doesn't solve anything. It just makes the problem fester and boil over until you have crazy women taking the feminist movement too far.

You have to be awake to see it happening. I don't sympathize with them. I want mostly to be left alone and not heaped with burdens of guilt because of race or sex. I find this to be intellectually dishonest...subversive. I find it to be exactly the thing they claim to be against. I find it to be subversively whoring a people out to the body politic.

I am not talking about in the 1950s. I am talking about right now ..today. And crazy people today have moved into government to promote these types of programs. Government does not need to be controlling and regulating peoples sexuality...This is what a pimp does...a whoremaster.
Sex and sexuality is a private thing..not to be hung out on a shingle for the body politic to take advantage of for votes and power.

We are not interested in people who can only define who and what they are by their sex..and sexuality. For we think people are more than that ..much much more. The same way we think people are so much more than race and racism. We tire of being beaten over the head with it 24/7 and being told to march to this tune or that tune...also the media and pseudo leadership which pimps this out for votes.

The people who define people by their sex and sexuality are the bigots that hate on them. If we were all seen as equal, there would BE no distinct groups of people. Unfortunately that isn't the case, so we MUST talk about these issues until all the groups ARE equal. AGAIN not talking about it DOESN'T fix the problem. It just makes you think you are secure in your bubble of privilege while others suffer.

Good grief...Wow!! this is about as intellectually dishonest and stacking the deck in ignorance as it can get ...putting the cart before the horse and being proud of this ignorance. What is worse you think this type of ignorance is normal..it is not.

People define themselves by their lineage, their occupations or some work they have done or left to posterity. They do not define themselves by their sex and sexuality. That is just plan dumb to so do.

Defining themselves by their sex and sexuality is precisely the tack of the Feminist movements. Take sex and sexuality away and they have no program. But they want to take sex and sexuality away from the male and neuter them. The feminists are not interested in equality. I can figure this out for myself.

There are people out here who do not want to view the world through a sexual prism..every day. They do not want to be pimped out to this phony template because they realize that people are so much more than sex and sexuality. But you would never come to this conclusion by watching/listening to the media...leadership ..nor these SJW groups.
This is precisely the problem with your positions in everything..which is why you have to use the time warp technique..to stick everyone back in a time warp as if they are guilty of some moral trespass...and then you can feel good about your manipulative technique.

But some of us can see it for the propaganda it is...brainwashing.

People are also getting very tired of viewing and listening to everything and everyone through the prism of race as well. They find this just as empty as the sex and sexuality template...and being run by the same propagandists.

This is complete nonsense. There is a whole party that listens to the opinions of the bigots on a regular basis AND regularly tries to pass legislation that appeals to the white male voter. The Republican party literally CATERS to the white male and his desire to see no evil or hear no evil.

Your tendency to label to justify your positions is becoming transparent. This is part of the guilt manipulation techniques and it does not work on me because I have seen to much of it..just like the sex and race templates.
As to the party system here in this country..it is a phony. There is only one party...and it appears to be split...but the so called conservative party is a phony. It is liberal lite. This is becoming more and more transparent a time goes by. The so called conservative party is representing someone ..but not the conservative people. They are just pimping them out to the liberal policies. They too are whoremasters...pimps.

The Republican party literally CATERS to the white male and his desire to see no evil or hear no evil.

Here is your created man made manipulation technique at work..propaganda....creating bad guys. It is also racism.
Some people are guilty and convicted by race. This phony technique has become the new normal today. It is nothing but racism and guilt manipulation...political whoredom...for votes/lucre.

People are beginning to see this for the phony it is as well. They are tiring of it being pimped out to them over and over by a compliant and manipulative media and public education financed by government.

Oh PLEASE! Both sides of the political spectrum use emotional rhetoric to appeal to their base. Don't pretend like it is JUST the SJW's that do it.

Bullcrap! Again there are crazies in every group that make the group look bad. That DOESN'T mean their cause is a bad cause though.

The SJWs are coming out more in the open and people are beginning to recognize their application of what is known as "Mirror Image Thinking." It takes training to recognize this for what it is..but it will never be taught to most people for the "Truth " of what it is. Some of these people who recognize what it is are teaching others to recognize it and teach others. "Mirror Image Thinking."

There are indeed Crazies in every group. I just don't agree with your technique of trying to put those who disagree with you in the the time warp or crazy pattern for wanting to be left alone. Not be manipulated by Mirror Image Thinking.
Not to be Whored out to the latest changing wind.

The problem is...that the crazies are now moving into leadership positions in every nation....through public education...and whorish politics for lucre.

Thanks,
Orangetom

originally posted by: orangetom1999
Really..!! You do know that when the Soviets instituted equality for women and they finished with this program the women in Soviet Russia lived on the average two years less in length than the males..yes???

Got a source for that? Also, why is this even a relevant point?

Are todays feminists arguing and debating for this much equality?? At the same time turning over generous amounts of their production to the men for their discretionary spending??? This is in fact what goes on in Russia..in places even today.
The men don't work..the women do. Is todays savvy feminist looking for this much equality as career opportunity???

Why do you keep bringing up Russia? This country isn't Russia. Things that happen in Russia don't necessarily happen here, and not to mention, Russia is one of the LAST countries I'd mention when talking about equality.

By Government decree??? Title IX etc etc.
You can find this information in "Sex and Power in history by Amaury De Riencourt .
And among people in the know...about history ..the Marxists and Socialists have been behind the Feminist movements in the west since the Early 1960s. You can find this information in Erin Pizzey's book.."This Way to the Revolution..where Erin describes the early days of the women's movement in the UK.

Is there something wrong with Socialists backing the Feminist movement? By the way, they've been backing the Feminists since the Feminist movement first started. Socialism dates all the way back to the early 1900's.

As a mattern of fact...Erin Pizzey has videos on U Tube warning of what has happened to the Feminist movements and how they have been hijacked today...stolen ..taken over to a very subversive template.

Oh wow a Youtube video! Well that certainly settles the argument then. /sarc

LOL LOL LOL...back to the time warp technique..sticking someone back In time to make a position or stance as if it is different today. Please explain to me what woman of today..smart savvy ..intelligent woman wants to give up potential to herself if she can get it without risks..and without labor...particularly if no one sees what we are doing??? Please explain that to me.

Please show how there is a widespread issue of women demanding equality while also demanding that men have to keep supporting them as stay at home moms. You can't just assume that an argument is true. You have to demonstrate that it is an actual issue. Like I said, women today actually WORK for their money. Many families today pool their incomes together to pay the bills instead of relying on a sole breadwinner. This is why your thinking is outdated. You are trying to suggest that women can't or won't be independent if given the chance, which is one of the prime reasons men were able to keep women "in the kitchen" in the 1950's.

I agree ..stay at home dads are on the rise..and it should be with women of equality. This way a male can explore his options and vulnerabilities while the female takes the risks for half or less of the benefits. In this manner she can live a shorter life as the males used to do...and call that progress...even equality.

Great. It's happening.

Now you are reaching here. I said they got caught manipulating the media and leadership. And that gets wolfie. They are carrying on as if this is widespread and it is not. They are creating bad guys in the conscience of the public for political lucre..just as is the race cottage industry..and for votes and power...lucre.

No it IS widespread. That's the point. There is MORE than enough evidence to show this is the case:
More evidence rape a significant problem on U.S. college campuses
America’s Rape Problem: We Refuse to Admit That There Is One
Rape, rape culture and the problem of patriarchy
The Rapist Next Door

That was just one quick Google search. Here's the military rape culture:
Incidents of rape in military much higher than previously reported
Why rapists in military get away with it
The Military's Rape Problem Is a Lot Like Everyone's Rape Problem

These people are become just like an afternoon talk show....take the sex and sexuality away and you have no program.

In like manner to the race Pimps like Al and Jesse. Take the race away and you have no program. They are all one trick ponies.

You are grievously over simplifying the issue.

When you watch them over and over and over...manipulating sex and sexualty..you ask yourself what the feminists really have to offer in the marketplace outside of sex. You can see the next one coming after awhile. It has now become predictable.

Feminists AREN'T trying to make things about sex. They are trying to obtain equality. It's the bigots who always make it about sex.

One of the dumbest things the feminists have done of recent is this nonsense called Manspreading. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel. I laughed at that one too.

Continued on the next post.

I agree, manspreading a tad ridiculous, but that isn't indicative of the primary argument from most feminists. Again, STOP highlighting a few crazies or crazy points and try to paint the feminist movement as entirely crazy. It's disingenuous and really shows that you'd rather not sympathize with the plights of women.

originally posted by: orangetom1999
They are working very hard out here to neuter and feminize the males while promoting and advancing the women sexually and in every capacity they can think of..and you can see it coming. It is become predictable.

No one is neutering any males... The amount of slippery-slope fear logic in your posts is outstanding!

You have to be awake to see it happening. I don't sympathize with them. I want mostly to be left alone and not heaped with burdens of guilt because of race or sex. I find this to be intellectually dishonest...subversive. I find it to be exactly the thing they claim to be against. I find it to be subversively whoring a people out to the body politic.

Translation: "Waaaaaah! I don't like it when people point out when society is unfairly favors my group of people. I'd rather pretend such problems don't exist!"

I am not talking about in the 1950s. I am talking about right now ..today. And crazy people today have moved into government to promote these types of programs. Government does not need to be controlling and regulating peoples sexuality...This is what a pimp does...a whoremaster.
Sex and sexuality is a private thing..not to be hung out on a shingle for the body politic to take advantage of for votes and power.

That's pretty funny because the side of the government that is regulating sex and sexuality is the side that is bigoted against them and finds certain aspects of sex and sexuality "icky". The feminists and LGBT's arguing for sexuality want government to STOP regulating sex and sexuality since government regulations restrict their freedoms.

Good grief...Wow!! this is about as intellectually dishonest and stacking the deck in ignorance as it can get ...putting the cart before the horse and being proud of this ignorance. What is worse you think this type of ignorance is normal..it is not.

Sorry you feel this way but it's the truth. Not talking about an issue doesn't make it go away and the people who try to shutdown conversations on it are likely hiding prejudices they don't want to give up.

People define themselves by their lineage, their occupations or some work they have done or left to posterity. They do not define themselves by their sex and sexuality. That is just plan dumb to so do.

Tell that to the Republicans who define women, gays, and transgenders by their sex and sexuality all the time. It really is interesting that you keep bringing up this point about defining groups by sex and sexuality, when it is the people keeping these groups DOWN that are doing it. They've already MADE the definitions and these groups are trying to overcome these stigmas. Though you aren't helping much by so casually dismissing their grievances as "crazy talk".

Defining themselves by their sex and sexuality is precisely the tack of the Feminist movements. Take sex and sexuality away and they have no program. But they want to take sex and sexuality away from the male and neuter them. The feminists are not interested in equality. I can figure this out for myself.

Hyperbole and completely false.

There are people out here who do not want to view the world through a sexual prism..every day. They do not want to be pimped out to this phony template because they realize that people are so much more than sex and sexuality. But you would never come to this conclusion by watching/listening to the media...leadership ..nor these SJW groups.
This is precisely the problem with your positions in everything..which is why you have to use the time warp technique..to stick everyone back in a time warp as if they are guilty of some moral trespass...and then you can feel good about your manipulative technique.

Lol. You really are clueless about these groups' needs and wants.

But some of us can see it for the propaganda it is...brainwashing.

Actually, your post content is straight up propaganda. "Nothing to see here folks. Move along."

People are also getting very tired of viewing and listening to everything and everyone through the prism of race as well. They find this just as empty as the sex and sexuality template...and being run by the same propagandists.

Too bad, until true equality is obtained then we need to keep talking about it. If people REALLY wanted to stop hearing about it, they'd unite to work together to change the system so racism or bigotry isn't systemic. But nah, they'd rather just not hear that other people are suffering at their expense.

Here is your created man made manipulation technique at work..propaganda....creating bad guys. It is also racism.
Some people are guilty and convicted by race. This phony technique has become the new normal today. It is nothing but racism and guilt manipulation...political whoredom...for votes/lucre.

If you can't see that the Republican party caters to the white male then you are blind. It is literally beyond easy to see and they don't hide it at all. I'm beginning to think you aren't as in tune with politics as you are making it sound.

The SJWs are coming out more in the open and people are beginning to recognize their application of what is known as "Mirror Image Thinking." It takes training to recognize this for what it is..but it will never be taught to most people for the "Truth " of what it is. Some of these people who recognize what it is are teaching others to recognize it and teach others. "Mirror Image Thinking."

Well yea... When someone isn't afraid of repercussion for their thoughts and feelings, they'll be more willing to air them out. Before people would be seriously injured or killed for being gay or expressing homophobic thoughts. You aren't expressing any truth, just standard bigoted rationalization so that you don't have to admit America's bigot problem.

There are indeed Crazies in every group. I just don't agree with your technique of trying to put those who disagree with you in the the time warp or crazy pattern for wanting to be left alone. Not be manipulated by Mirror Image Thinking.
Not to be Whored out to the latest changing wind.

The problem is...that the crazies are now moving into leadership positions in every nation....through public education...and whorish politics for lucre.

Thanks,
Orangetom

What you've expressed in this post isn't "Wanting to be left alone", but rather a desire to maintain the status quo, which is bigoted and intolerant towards these groups. The crazies have always been in leadership positions.

Krazysh0t

The Republican party literally CATERS to the white male and his desire to see no evil or hear no evil.

I have to make haste with this as I must soon shove off.

But I wanted to point out something ..not for you ..but for the readers on this thread who can still think for themselves..and recognize what you are doing here.

Not only is your above statement racist...the very thing you tend to claim to be against..but it is also sexist..the other SJW claim to be against. You are the thing you claim to be against..and must create bad guys to get away with it on an unsuspecting people who cannot think for themselves.


The problem you have here ..is that you cannot define what law it is that these groups you are against have broken.

You are implying a higher moral and ethical trespass ...or violation..by race and sex. What law is it here which has been broken.

If you cannot cite a law...the best you can have is a "Legal Fiction." Go to Blacks Law Dictionary for a definition of Legal Fiction.

I will reply to your last post when time constraints do not limit.

You really need to get ahold of your emotions. It shows in your posts...and it how you post. Many SJWs I've found to be like this...Atheists as well.

Thanks,
Orangetom

originally posted by: orangetom1999
I have to make haste with this as I must soon shove off.

But I wanted to point out something ..not for you ..but for the readers on this thread who can still think for themselves..and recognize what you are doing here.

Not only is your above statement racist...the very thing you tend to claim to be against..but it is also sexist..the other SJW claim to be against. You are the thing you claim to be against..and must create bad guys to get away with it on an unsuspecting people who cannot think for themselves.

Racist? Lol. It's just the truth. Show me ONE Republican sponsored bill that furthered Mexican immigrant rights, one Republican bill that furthered women's rights, one Republican bill that furthered gay rights, etc. If you could do that, I'd change my opinion, but there isn't one. The Republicans may have been socially tolerant back in the 60's, but you are in denial if you think the party caters to anyone but white males in today's political climate. Heck, you might want to throw "Christian" in there too. Since that is the group Republicans often pretend they are defending from discrimination.

The problem you have here ..is that you cannot define what law it is that these groups you are against have broken.

I'm not accusing anyone of breaking any laws so this is a red herring argument.

You are implying a higher moral and ethical trespass ...or violation..by race and sex. What law is it here which has been broken.

No, I am applying the goddamn Constitution that guarantees equal rights for all people, and until all people have equal rights, I'm not going to stop talking about it.

If you cannot cite a law...the best you can have is a "Legal Fiction." Go to Blacks Law Dictionary for a definition of Legal Fiction.

There are no laws I wish to cite. Only the Constitution.

I will reply to your last post when time constraints do not limit.

You really need to get ahold of your emotions. It shows in your posts...and it how you post. Many SJWs I've found to be like this...Atheists as well.

Thanks,
Orangetom

If you think I am getting emotional over this topic then you don't know me very well. The only thing you could accuse me of being is overly sarcastic, but I don't apologize for that.

Wow Krazysh0t,

That is a very deep post you made before this one.

Racist? Lol. It's just the truth. Show me ONE Republican sponsored bill that furthered Mexican immigrant rights, one Republican bill that furthered women's rights, one Republican bill that furthered gay rights, etc. If you could do that, I'd change my opinion, but there isn't one. The Republicans may have been socially tolerant back in the 60's, but you are in denial if you think the party caters to anyone but white males in today's political climate. Heck, you might want to throw "Christian" in there too. Since that is the group Republicans often pretend they are defending from discrimination.

Like I said..in like manner to Al and Jesse...and the talk show circuit...you only have sex and racism on your agenda..you are a two trick pony. Observe here....

Tell that to the Republicans who define women, gays, and transgenders by their sex and sexuality all the time. It really is interesting that you keep bringing up this point about defining groups by sex and sexuality, when it is the people keeping these groups DOWN that are doing it.

I disagree here with your statement ...simply because it is these groups..who describe themselves by this definition and then use/misuse every method they can to abuse the public sensibilities...to bully them into going along with the program they desire. And I mean bully. Just as you are attempting to do here by lack of basic civilities. No problem. I can handle it. These groups are all...bullies...with a compliant leadership pimping for them along with a compliant media..also shilling for the politicians and by default these groups. Trying to make people feel insecure, guilty, Ashamed, intimidated..lacking. This is also not leadership Krazysh0t. It is how a pimp works to intimidate/bully their whores...keep them in line. and it is exactly how the feminists and the LGBT groups work. It is also how governments work.

People are tiring of this template and being bombarded by this 24/7. As I stated...it is become like watching the same olde movie..over and over ..50 times.

It is these groups themselves who are define by their sex and sexuality...while SJWs like you are trying to put this onus off on someone else. Standard Operating Procedure for SJW's..and today ...government. The blame game.


Oh...by the way..while we are at it...I am not a Republican. I put no more confidence in a Phony Republican Party than I do the phony Democrat Party. You seem desperately want to group me in with them. I find the Republicans to be disgusting. So too the Democrats.

Think this kind of thing through carefully...for what you post is textbook of todays pseudo intellectualism going on out here and running rampant and rabid.

one Republican bill that furthered gay rights,

A thinking person knows that the very last group of people you want controlling and regulating peoples sexuality is government. Sexuality is a personal and private thing..not a public thing. I am talking about both phony political parties here.

It is getting so bad out here that you have children who cannot earn a living for themselves but know about all kinds of sex and sexuality. Someone out here has put the cart before the horse. What they have also done is stolen our children's childhood and innocence. They are moving them to quickly into adulthood and stealing their childhood.
I did not learn this on my own. It was taught to me by a good woman. Over time she turned out to be correct. May she rest in Peace.

Let me put this another way for those readers out here who can still think for themselves..

What you have out here is government social programs ..pimping out our children...to all kinds of sex and sexuality before they even know how to make a living for themselves.


You know Krazysh0t, I got to thinking about something in the middle of the night..about what you describe as a Rape Culture. This is going to be accelerating here in this country because of a pattern and history not desired to be defined. When it happens it is going to be covered up..by PC.

The place where a rape culture is taking place with the cooperation of the government is in the UK. The Government is looking the other way. This is slowly filtering out and is a significant problem. The government controlled media is trying to keep it bottled up. And it will happen in like manner here soon if not already.

Now there Krazysh0t , is where you are going to have a career opportunity.




White males...Wow!! Patriarchy!! Wow!!

Here you are again..sexist and racist. You are the very thing you claim to be against. Creating bad guys too.
Beneath contention....Krazysh0t.

Do you not know that males who work so do for their women and children. Turn over the fruits of their labor to their women for their discretionary spending on the family. This is not a definition of Patriarchy. It is a definition of a Matriarchy. For in many families the male comes in last ..behind the female and the children. Even in the courts the male comes in last with the monies he earns often at great risk.

You seem to think no one notices this or can think it through for what it is..again the cart before the horse.


I'll state it again ...not for you Krazysh0t, but for the readers out here who can still think for themselves..and not be propagandized by the media and our phony leadership today..from both political parties.

People do not want to wake up every day and be forced by a phony leadership..by phony education, by phony media...to thinking about whether a person is of a particular colour, sex, sexuality....24/7. They do not want to be stage managed by someone else or someone else's program.

They are getting tired of being bombarded by this insanity 24/7. They are coming slowly to the conclusion that people are more than race and sex. But they realize that by the phony media and leadership in this country...that is all they seem to have on the plate. Race and Sex. All that is going to be allowed to be on the plate.
They are concluding that the phony pseudo media are nothing but race and sex/sexuality. And you are a Xerox copy of this very template..complete with created bad guys...just like our leadership today. Not back in a time warp somewhere in the past but today..right now.

They are looking at the phony media in this country and voting with their remote controllers. Tuning them out.

They are rapidly tiring of being pimped and whored out to this phony template in crisis management and guilt manipulation technique. They are also coming to the conclusion that this same group are aiming at their children and grand children in order to steal their childhood and whore them out as well.

They are finding this whole business cheap, disgusting, and manipulative and on the weakest of our generations..our children and grandchildren.

This recognition or awareness does not speak well for government, nor the SJW causes. Because thinking people realize it is the very thing they claim not to be..racist and sexist. Beneath contention.

You are demonstrating here that you are going to solve a racist and sexist issue by yourself showing that you are a racist and a sexist.

Not Smart..but it is politic.


Thanks to all for their posts,
Orangetom

Something tells me "SlutWalk" isn't what I think it is....

*sigh*.....

originally posted by: Gazrok

Something tells me "SlutWalk" isn't what I think it is....

*sigh*.....

It aint no Mermaid Parade if that is what you were hoping for...

From this thread on this page above.

They are getting tired of being bombarded by this insanity 24/7. They are coming slowly to the conclusion that people are more than race and sex. But they realize that by the phony media and leadership in this country...that is all they seem to have on the plate. Race and Sex. All that is going to be allowed to be on the plate.

An interesting concept of which I recently learned while reading a book on Psychopaths...is the term..

Gaslighting.

Gaslighting is defined here...along with some of the history of how it came about..

en.wikipedia.org...



As I stated in my previous posts..this type of mirror image thinking or gaslightng is being taught/conditioned into people using the victim technique combined with professional guilt and blame/labeling techniques to default over on a gullible and untutored public.

What happens over time..is that these groups are screaming racism...and sexism..but are in fact using an misusing racism and sexism to cure racism and sexism.

They have pronounced a whole group guilty of some moral and ethical trespass on the basis of their sex and race and then go on to pyramid this over to power an control over these groups unto silence (censorship) or guilt (blame) for all the ills of the world.

When pushed to it ..they cannot state what law they have broken in going about their daily lives..but they are guilty and to be held accountable by race and sex...the very things they claim to be against.

Once you know for what to observe.. it is disgusting to see how far they will push it by entitlement thinking.


This tragic incident in Charleston , South Carolina...you can see the same race pimps making merchandize of someone else's tragedy for political merchandize. The people of that city are saying and to their credit ..no thank you ..go away.

But the race pimps including those I leadership positions in this country are using and misusing this tragedy to hold a whole nation hostage and silent by race...which is what makes this so disgusting.

I am not discounting the tragedy of what happened..only the people making merchandize out of it for political lucre.

They have gaslighted a whole nation..into thinking that they as a people are insane ...in their individual beliefs and must needs cede their individual thoughts and beliefs to this new and improved template of emotional drama conditioning.

This is also mirror image thinking.


Thanks,
Orangetom

Very well put post, OT99. Never heard of "Gaslighting" before, interesting Wiki.

originally posted by: orangetom1999
They have gaslighted a whole nation..into thinking that they as a people are insane ...in their individual beliefs and must needs cede their individual thoughts and beliefs to this new and improved template of emotional drama conditioning.

This is also mirror image thinking.

Thanks,
Orangetom

I love Lauren, she always has her head on her shoulders.

This new wave of feminist activists piss me off so bad I can't even stand to listen to their bs rhetoric.
The other day I put a thing on Facebook about the rights women have in the US that men don't, and was proud to see the first person to "like" it and comment was my daughter.
Just one more saved from this mindless ideology which promises lots of goodies through victimization claims, at the expense of the men in our lives. Yes!

originally posted by: southernplayalistic
Very well put post, OT99. Never heard of "Gaslighting" before, interesting Wiki

Ahh..ok..southernplayalistic,

Great that you follow the pattern of what is going on out here. Teach others to follow this pattern of thinking with all the cards in the deck..not just the SJW cards of censorship, bullying and control..herd mentality.

Thinking for ones self is becoming an endangered species today in lieu of emoting...and being controlled by ones emotional strings.

In addition to gaslighting....one aspect of it if you examine closely what is going on..is the Rape of a whole nation without them even being aware they are being raped.

Sexuality is a private and personal thing..which is why one should never define who and what they are by their sexuality but keep it private. Government does not belong in the business of controlling and regulating peoples sexuality or sexual beliefs. It is private business..not a public spectacle.

People have the basic right to decide for themselves what they will accept or reject...particularly in the sexual arena.

Forcing people..against their will and over their objections to accept someone sexually ....is a type of rape.

A person does not have to accept a hetero on the basis of sexuality...much less anyone else.

This lack of understanding or being taught this line of thinking even by the so called conservatives in this country is what clearly taught me that the Republican party is in on the gaslighting scam. The republican party is democrat lite. Phony conservatives..pseudo concervatives.

This is why it is stupid for anyone to define who and what they are by their sexuality. It is really dumb and ignorant. It is also whoredom...the buying, selling, and trading of people's very souls to this phony template of conduct and belief...or put another way ..a very zealous and devout religious belief.

I will repeat it again...a phony template of conduct and belief...a very devout and zealous religious belief...clear to thinkers by the zeal and devotedness of so many to this religion of social justice.




Now...question for you ...southernplayalistic..

And in asking this question I am looking for a pattern..in you. A pattern of how you think..and are you capable of thinking outside of most of the boxes of what passes for "Enlightenment" and independent thinking today..verses herd mentality.
I am not doing this to give offence...understand??

Here is the question...

If this devout and zealous religious system of which I am speaking ..."Gaslighting" ...a phony system...a counterfeit..a lie and deception...if this is a devout religion of lies and deceit..played on an unsuspecting..people...IF it is belief system quietly sponsored and approved of by government and leadership in this country...approved of by public education ...and other leadership groups...

Give me the name of the diety or god of this phony counterfeit system/religion in motion..in play????

When did government turn to this religion and god ..and not tell anyone they had done this???

What is the name of the god of rampant, rabid, runaway sex and sexuality???


Now...am I insane...or are these questions to difficult to answer with a standard public education in emotions ????

Just some thoughts which came out of the non herd thinking on this topic.

I can do this as well on other lines of thought..on other issues.

Thanks for your post,
Orangetom

southernplayalistic,

Hey...here is another for you..I just went back and re read some of the posts on this page and suddenly this stuck out like a sore thumb..on the topic of Gaslighting.


here again the definition of Gaslighting from Wiki.

Gaslighting or gas-lighting is a form of mental abuse in which information is twisted or spun, selectively omitted to favor the abuser, or false information is presented with the intent of making victims doubt their own memory, perception, and sanity.[

the Link..
en.wikipedia.org...



Now...observe here on this page..Krazyshot...gaslighting right in front of us all.

What you've expressed in this post isn't "Wanting to be left alone", but rather a desire to maintain the status quo, which is bigoted and intolerant towards these groups. The crazies have always been in leadership positions.

Did you catch it...the gaslighting??

Here I am describing people wanting to be left alone..not stage managed by one phony template/pattern...political social cause after another...and these people are crazy???? People wanting to left alone to their privacy..is insane or crazy??
People not wanting to get on the Social Justice Warrior bandwagon..is insane???

The implication that these people wanting to be left alone have committed some higher moral trespass or broken some law or social order.

I don't even think that dogmatic programmed people like Krazyshot even realize what they are doing ..they are so heavy on the programmed drug of the blame game...that they are oblivious to it...and think themselves entitled to control someone else's beliefs..even wanting to be left alone ..not stage-managed. Not made cannon fodder to this phony manufactured crisis.

This is bait and switch..a con job...gaslighting.


Again my .02,

Orangetom

The God is money. The Church of Consumerism.
Which got its big boost from Saint Bernays, Our Father of Public Relations, who brought to us the sacred secrets of manipulating public opinion and the engineering of consent.
Grace be upon our Corporate Masters
And media puppeteers.

Just eat your bread, watch your circus, and cheer and hiss on cue.