Cops manhandle teens at Dallas pool party after complaints from neighbors

originally posted by: chuck258

originally posted by: woodwardjnr

originally posted by: Legman
a reply to: Jaellma

I saw actually nothing that bothers me on that video... other than todays youth.

Well if you want to tolerate this type of police behaviour don't complain when it's used on you or yours

Me and mine wouldn't act like this towards cops.

If I was in North Korea, I would not speak against the Dear Leader either, but would secretly support those that do.

Some additional stuff from CNN:

CNN law enforcement analyst and former FBI assistant director Tom Fuentes watched the YouTube video and harshly criticized the officer who wrestled the girl.

The officer appeared to be "running around escalating" a situation that should have quickly calmed, he said.

Fuentes said there appeared to be "no justification" for the way the juveniles, particularly the girl, were treated.

The fact that she was wearing a bikini indicated that she was "clearly not armed," he said.

The officer appeared to be "running around almost like a one-man band," he said, and other officers appeared to distance themselves from him. "The other officers that are there don't really come right to him to give him a hand. I'm wondering what's going through their minds, 'Get me away from this guy. He's out of control.'

"He's out of control. He clearly has no self-discipline. He lost control of his temper. Nothing good can happen at that point. Thankfully he didn't shoot somebody."

The officer has been suspended. The girl thrown to the ground was not arrested. There are people who have experience in this field who are criticizing the officer.

At least consider the possibility that the officer might have been in the wrong.

a reply to: Greven

At least consider the possibility that the officer might have been in the wrong.

I think the officer went a bit over the top. Has was running around looking kinda crazy. The cop is suspended, so good.

I just think the bigger issue is what happened in the community and how it almost became a dangerous situation for people in the neighborhood. The media and most others won't acknowledge the whole story. This happens way too often these days.

Lashauna Burks said her daughter simply wanted to celebrate the end of the school year with her friends on Friday by hosting a party that promised food, fun and music. However, the gathering at the Craig Ranch Community Pool in McKinney, Texas abruptly turned violent when two white women at a nearby pool began making racist comments at the black teen partygoers.

When police officers arrived at the scene, chaos escalated as officers forced teens into handcuffs, with one officer holding a young woman to the ground and pulling a gun on a crowd of black teen partygoers.

Burks, who is black, said she was the sole adult supervisor of her daughter’s event. She left momentarily to grab more materials for the party -- and returned to chaos.

“When I left, a 14-year-old girl named Grace had gotten into an argument with two caucasian women,” Burks told HuffPost on Monday. “My daughter came to me and said that the security guard told all the African American people to leave.”

Burks recounts the event in a video recorded by photojournalist and local resident Elroy Johnson and posted to YouTube Sunday evening. The video shows Burks and her 19-year-old daughter Tatiana Rhodes explaining the moments that led to the argument, which promptly became physical.

“This lady was saying racial slurs to some friends that came to the cookout...she was saying things such as 'you black f****r' and ‘that's why you live in Section 8 homes,'" Rhodes said.

Grace Stone, a 14-year-old white girl who Rhode's said is a friend of her brother's, immediately came to their defense and spoke out against the woman’s hateful words.
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I have said it multiple times else where much of the problem is about assumptions, the assumption about belonging, about who can do what, where, when and why, while not good it's worst when officials get caught-up in those very assumptions like the rest of us, I really think it was a good day when no one died, yes my expectations are that low.

a reply to: Wookiep



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Here's a video that really puts the whole story into a different perspective than what the media is.

It's 14 min long, but it's worth the watch, he really breaks it down well.

a reply to: Wookiep

That just gives the perspective of a guy who states "I effin hate black women. Black women get on my nerves" as his opening statement to his "perspective".

a reply to: woodwardjnr

Wrong. Watch the whole video. The first several minutes do not make the entire video. There are several great real points made in that video.

a reply to: Wookiep I watched it all. It was pretty much a rant against black women which I guess is fine because he's black saying it so it can't be racist. Doesn't stop it being vulgar and Misogynistic. Geez. If someone had typed those words out on ats the post would have been removed. My first post on this thread never mentioned race it mentioned the unprofessional nature of American police which I still stand by, my 2nd post mentioned it being tinged with race. Which I believe is true. Your video does nothing to justify the actions of a grown police officer pushing a girl in to the ground and kneeling on her back. Unless your happy with that type of force being used. It was unreasonable and it shouldn't need pointing out.

a reply to: woodwardjnr

It seems you have formed an opinion based on popular opinion and media hype. That's ok, it's what is expected.

The maker of that video made no excuses for the cop, the issue that you choose to focus on. He made points regarding the crowd which refused to disperse, and posted a vid of a potentially dangerous situation before the vid in the OP was shot where some moms tried to disperse the "teens" but were met with physical violence instead. Later, they (the "teens") blamed the incident on "racist slurs" from white people, which have yet to be proven.

The maker of the video then asked a critical question as to why they provoked a fight in the first place, even IF in the event racial slurs were made? Those hundreds of teens, climbing fences etc, were NOT invited nor legally allowed at the pool, nor were they allowed to create a "pool party" with DJ's etc. This event had the whole community on edge, and it was an illegal act from the start.

It's your choice to go ahead and join the race-baiting media bandwagon, but the guy did a great job at breaking the whole thing down. Yes, he was vulgar at times, but I think this was a result of the "thug" community never responding to anything but vulgarity. This is the very group he's trying to reach. The man pointed out many cases for common sense, too bad you refuse to see the reality of this ongoing fad which is tearing apart the fabric of society here in the states.

a reply to: WookiepI think we both agree that the main problem was the over reaction of the policeman , so on that we can both agree, so let's just leave it at that.

a reply to: woodwardjnr

While I agree the cop was over the top, I don't agree that it's the main issue. Not at all. I wouldn't have posted the vid or shared my thoughts on this matter if that was the case. I think the bigger issue is that a large group of "youths" thought they were entitled to illegally throw a party at a pool they were not allowed in, and this escalated into a mob entitlement mentality which became dangerous to an entire community where moms with kids on site were met with violence. (did you see the video of THAT part??)

And now, with the media, it is all justified under the false guise of racism from evil whitey. (even though, as the video I posted pointed out, among the arrested was a white chick) When the event had NOTHING to do with race. This CRAP has to stop, and it won't as long as the masses like you keep buying up social media hype and the media's race baiting in general as some kind of gospel.

I think most Americans believe that the main problem here is those criminal cops arent in jail where they should be.

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
I think most Americans believe that the main problem here is those criminal cops arent in jail where they should be.

I think most Americans believe criminal cops should be in jail as well. I also think a large amount of Americans refuse to see an ongoing justification for "thug" culture in society, and are too afraid to admit it because the media would like you to believe you are racist if you don't support this growing criminal "thug" activity AND "poor me" entitlement mentality coming from that culture.

This country is very sick right now, no doubt.

a reply to: Wookiep it seems like it takes one of the masses like me, to point out to you independent minded individuals, using the mob/thug mentality and entitlement hyperbole that it's in fact you who are getting whipped up by the independent medias narrative that seems to push an agenda of constant irrational fear.

a reply to: woodwardjnr

You are very much entitled to that opinion, but in my own opinion you are very, very wrong. I live in the U.S. and I've learned to weed out the B.S. on a very daily basis. It's quite easy for me to see what is happening here.

I'm not out to insult you, I respect your opinion and all, but I very much disagree with you. So on that note, I WILL agree to very strongly disagree with you on this. That's all I really have left to say to you. Good day.

originally posted by: Answer
There's obviously more to this story than we can see in this video.

Additionally, when you run from the cops, they naturally assume there's a good reason. How is this so hard to understand?

When you're dealing with a police officer, you don't stand there talking crap to the cop and you don't disobey them when they ask you stay where you are. Additionally, when an officer has to take down your belligerent friend, you don't run up to the cop like you're about to assault him in defense of your friend or you WILL get a weapon pointed at you.

When I was a teenager and the cops showed up to a large gathering, the ones who ran and acted like idiots got treated like idiots. The ones who stayed put and listened to the cops were talked to and released.

I'll get labeled a cop supporter/idiot/whatever for typing all this but in EVERY SINGLE ONE of these cases, foolish people get roughed up by the cops because they wouldn't listen and decided to act tough instead of listening to the officer. There are plenty of people there not being messed with by the cops because they listened.

well dude when i was young and the cops showed up we too used to settle down and listen to what they had to say but i will tell you this at no point ever in my wild and crazy youth in all my interactions with the law did i ever have the fear of being shot, it never ented my realm of thought that the cops would ever pop me.
Now looking back on it growing up in the 90's and half the things, well most of the things i ended up being greeted by the law for people in america end up dead for now, hell even thier damn dogs end up dead, you can even be bashed, pepper sprayed and dragged from your car after you have had a stroke in america then have your vehicle run over your damn leg and you will still get cuffed. while i'm on a roll i might as well add that you can be in a wheel chair in america and get shot by the cops.
Now some people might be brainwashed enough to be OK with this but i can tell you that when you live in a normal country, how should i put it,like standing on the outside looking in, this attitude and the behaviour witnessed in the video above is so far beyond driven that it is almost incomprehensible to a normal person living in a normal society to imagine.

originally posted by: Answer I don't think I'd be pointing fingers from England, champ.

au contraire. our police tactics are not even close to the routine thuggery of america's. whole different ballpark.

a reply to: Answer
Keep licking those Jackboots..You make me Sick.

originally posted by: greydaze
a reply to: Answer
Keep licking those Jackboots..You make me Sick.

Keep drinking the media Kool Aid. Ohhh Yeeeaaaahhh!