Cops manhandle teens at Dallas pool party after complaints from neighbors

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Never let a crisis go to waste........ even if it has to be created along the way

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: roadgravel

originally posted by: sociolpath
a reply to: Jaellma

what is up with the fat white guy refereeing this abusive cop? If the man didn't have a uniform the civilians standing by would not have put up with treating someone in an abusive way like that.

I wondered why he wasn't considered interfering given how close he kept getting to the action. Good old boy.

He was probably a community security guard. Some of the articles say they're the ones who called the police after they couldn't control the situation.

Wearing shorts and t-shirt. Undercover I suppose.

originally posted by: Khaleesi

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: Khaleesi



As for the rest, the issue here is the actions of an out-of-control cop who was targeting only certain kids in a very large group milling around. If they all sneaked in, why throw around and arrest only kids of one color?

This is what you said. Maybe you intended to say something about 'from the video we have available' but that isn't what you said.

And? You stated above that I claimed only black kids were thrown out of the pool. Clearly, my quote shows that isn't what I stated. Throwing around and throwing out aren't the same thing.

I really don't get your confusion here.

originally posted by: manuelram16
Just another case of the MSM playing the RACE card on police trying to do their job.

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

No, it isn't. The claims of racism were about other residents, not the cops, and the complaints against "police" are against the one crazy cop on the scene. Watch the video again. I am well aware of all of the false claims of racism, and expected to see that in this case. That isn't what I see, though. The claimed comments from residents aren't proven, but the cop's behavior (the one; the rest were acting appropriately) certainly is. Did you watch the video??

originally posted by: manuelram16
Just another case of the MSM playing the RACE card on police trying to do their job.

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

No, it isn't. The claims of racism were about other residents, not the cops, and the complaints against "police" are against the one crazy cop on the scene. Watch the video again. I am well aware of all of the false claims of racism, and expected to see that in this case. That isn't what I see, though. The claimed comments from residents aren't proven, but the cop's behavior (the one; the rest were acting appropriately) certainly is. Did you watch the video??

i have to ask myself - ' does a young girl in a bikini represent such a threat that she needs to be pinned down, handcuffed and have a knee pressed into her neck?'

there is only 1 answer. no.

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

Here is a linkwww.buzzfeed.com...

Yeah, I saw that one, but that's the only report of anyone not black being arrested on the scene. She apparently approached the cops to garner that distinction. The one cop was telling kids to leave, then moments later, telling the same kids they were wrong for leaving. He's the biggest issue here.

I have no doubt some of these kids crashed the pool area, and were thus out of line, and some of those seated near the other cops weren't protesting. It looked like they knew they'd done something wrong. All of the ones there stated the girl the one cop attacked hadn't done anything, though. I watched the video several times, and can't see her doing anything that would arrant his actions. I am glad he was suspended. Guy gives n=me the creeps, honestly.

Guy gives n=me the creeps, honestly.

But he was an officer of the year.

(Cool double typo by the way, I like it. Missed to the left.)

originally posted by: roadgravel

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: roadgravel

originally posted by: sociolpath
a reply to: Jaellma

what is up with the fat white guy refereeing this abusive cop? If the man didn't have a uniform the civilians standing by would not have put up with treating someone in an abusive way like that.

I wondered why he wasn't considered interfering given how close he kept getting to the action. Good old boy.

He was probably a community security guard. Some of the articles say they're the ones who called the police after they couldn't control the situation.

Wearing shorts and t-shirt. Undercover I suppose.

There's another video showing a guy in the same tan shirt with brown cargo pants trying to get people under control.

He's a community security guard... basically a gate watcher. He doesn't wear a police uniform.

Slowly but surely, "the rest of the story" comes out...

The girl who organized the event is 19 and lives in the community with her mother. The girl hired a DJ who was blaring loud music and the DJ tweeted out invitations to the "pool party". She and her mother have claimed they contacted the HOA but the HOA says this is incorrect.





Kids started to arrive at the party "by the carload" and, because it was presented as a pool party, they started to jump the fence to get into the PRIVATE COMMUNITY pool area. The residents knew things didn't seem right because of the large group so they contacted community security. Community security showed up to tell them to leave, but they "accosted" the security guards. That's when the police were called. At some point, one of the adult residents told the kids to leave but she was attacked by the girl who organized the event, that's what you see in the hair-pulling fight video.





See what happens when you jump to conclusions based on someone's short YouTube video? People want to focus on the culmination of events instead of asking how things got to that point. The girl who was put on the ground by the officer was interfering and refusing to obey commands. When you verbally and physically resist an officer, you're going to be manhandled. Your gender and state of dress are irrelevant.

originally posted by: Answer
I've had a lot of interaction with McKinney PD and, amazingly, I've never had a single problem with them. McKinney is a very nice city and is mostly peaceful and low on crime.

Funny how some people just can't seem to avoid the "bad cops"...

Reporting to your parole officer, you say? A nonsense story, you say? Hmm...

Seems like you have a personal stake in this. Possibly more so than anyone else in this thread.

You also have clearly chosen a side. Perhaps you might consider that such a thing is premature.

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: Answer
I've had a lot of interaction with McKinney PD and, amazingly, I've never had a single problem with them. McKinney is a very nice city and is mostly peaceful and low on crime.

Funny how some people just can't seem to avoid the "bad cops"...

Reporting to your parole officer, you say? A nonsense story, you say? Hmm...

Seems like you have a personal stake in this. Possibly more so than anyone else in this thread.

You also have clearly chosen a side. Perhaps you might consider that such a thing is premature.

Nope. I don't have a personal stake at all. I just know an unfounded dog-pile session when I see one and that's generally what people do on ATS whenever a cop is involved.

See my post above if you want to see why jumping to conclusions is such a monumentally stupid idea.

The motto of this site is "deny ignorance" but whenever a cop is involved, people default to "the cop was wrong" and after the facts come out, the anti-cop crowd are almost always wrong.

If anything in this thread can be considered "premature," it's the geniuses who jumped on the "racist white cops beating up innocent black teens" bandwagon before they had any facts.

originally posted by: Answer
Nope. I don't have a personal stake at all. I just know an unfounded dog-pile session when I see one and that's generally what people do on ATS whenever a cop is involved.

See my post above if you want to see why jumping to conclusions is such a monumentally stupid idea.

The motto of this site is "deny ignorance" but whenever a cop is involved, people default to "the cop was wrong" and after the facts come out, the anti-cop crowd are almost always wrong.

If anything in this thread can be considered "premature," it's the geniuses who jumped on the "racist white cops beating up innocent black teens" bandwagon before they had any facts.

Yet, you just did this very thing. In that same post I quoted.

One member volunteered that he had a PO he had to report to - perhaps you should recall again what you wrote in response - helpfully quoted in my previous post?

There are two sides to a story and the truth some where in the middle.

a reply to: Answer

The girl who was put on the ground by the officer was interfering and refusing to obey commands.

Where in what you posted is this? I ask because the video tells a different story.

At the 2:38 mark the officer approaches the group in which the girl is and tells them they are leaving. The group begins moving as the officer continues telling them to leave. They are lippy and probably using profanities but the group is leaving. Then at the 3:00 mark you see the officer seek out the female and begin his assault.

So before he begins assaulting her, at what point did she interfere and refuse to obey orders? What was she interfering with and which orders did she refuse to obey?

The cop yelled something to her about her mouth, even though she was at a distance and apparently just exercising her freedom of speech.

I'd loosely construe her statements as political speech, just a guess.

It IS a race argument, because this stuff happens in EVERY town in America, and EVERY town in America has mostly white cops. My town arrests blacks by the 100s and there's not one person of color on the force. How is that "community"?

This to me is a non story and laughed when I saw it

A bunch of suburban kids and a cop getting a little wild.


Just consider in Egypt or other places the cop would have shot a couple of people

Or the crowd would have bashed the cops head in


MSNBC wants to call it racist and Fox wants to defend the cop and CNN just wants to--as usual--ambulance chase

a reply to: Answer

Thanks for the update post. Unfortunately, I believe it will be largely ignored. The media loves a race-bating conflict and people everywhere will ignore the full story. This has been going on for many years now and people never learn.

This may shed some more light on the issue, and those claiming this isn't a race issue are quite possibly wrong.

www.citylab.com...

A case before the Supreme Court of the United States yields some answers about the factors that led McKinney residents to call the police in the first place. Some time this month, the court will render its verdict in Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs v. The Inclusive Communities Project, Inc.—which draws on the racial and housing divisions exposed in McKinney this past weekend. McKinney specifically is connected to the Supreme Court case, and the future for this suburb and many others like it is bound to the court’s decision.

www.scotusblog.com...

According to District Court filings from 2009, east McKinney is (or was very recently) about 50 percent white, while west McKinney is almost 90 percent white.

So apparently the area is diverse, depending on which side of the area you live.

But the Supreme Court case that now concerns McKinney is larger than any single exclusionary amenity. The Roberts court may redefine exclusionary zoning altogether. What the Supreme Court does next will decide whether residents of McKinney—and Flower Mound, and Lewisville, and Sunnyvale, and Frisco, and suburbs and cities far beyond Dallas and Texas—can erect informal barriers to keep poor black residents not just out of their pools, but out of white, wealthy areas in an altogether more profound way.

So the private pools could possibly be coming to an end altogether.

Regardless of whether or not this was racially motivated, the one officer clearly acted inappropriately.

Just for the record, the girl in the bikini who was thrown to the ground has done an interview.

news.yahoo.com...

"He told me to keep walking," Dajerria Becton, 15, told Fox 4. "And I kept walking and then I'm guessing he thought we were saying rude stuff to him."

"He grabbed me, twisted my arm on my back and shoved me in the grass and started pulling the back of my braids," Becton said. "I was telling him to get off me because my back was hurting bad

Her words, and I agree with the poster above that the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. What seems obvious to me though, whatever she was or wasn't saying to the officer, there was no need to slam her to the ground and then sit on her.