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That statement could be one of hope or naivete.
History will show that the chances of bipartisan support are slim.
Even if the patriot act is abolished there is a good chance that it could become something else entirely; the name may change but the rules may stay the same.
Even if the patriot act is abolished there is a good chance that it could become something else entirely; the name may change but the rules may stay the same.
originally posted by: whyamIhere
I hope this Manifesto goes in the trash heap of history.
The only people that the Act identified is people dumb enough to fall for a setup.
They could not point to a single valid arrest coming from the collection of our information.
What is so hard about getting a warrant?
originally posted by: beezzer
It'll pass because the cesspool that passes for DC won't relinquish power/authority/control for a second.
The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 ("FISA" Pub.L. 95–511, 92 Stat. 1783, 50 U.S.C. ch. 36) is a United States federal law which prescribes procedures for the physical and electronic surveillance and collection of "foreign intelligence information" between "foreign powers" and "agents of foreign powers" (which may include American citizens and permanent residents suspected of espionage or terrorism).[1] It has been repeatedly amended since the September 11 attacks.
originally posted by: stosh64
originally posted by: Aazadan
Well, Rand did it. I have to say, now I don't know what party I want to register with for a primary vote. Getting Sanders or Paul into the general election.
To bad there is ZERO chance of them BOTH being on the SAME ticket.
Now that I could vote for.
originally posted by: Patriotsrevenge
The only reason it was not voted back in was that the Republicans thought the new bill was to weak. I am sure they will come up with something outlandish.
originally posted by: Greathouse
Statements like that again make me feel like I'm talking to a defeatist. Are you saying we should no longer even make attempts anymore just give up and roll over?
I hate this- a defeatist is someone who says "well # it, we can't win lets give up" please don't mistake those of us who know votes and laws are worthless against this system as defeatists
Give this corrupt system a few more years, and this post will be criminal- hell, given all the holes they've punched in our rights already, it probably is criminal today. How dare I question the authority. I'll be strung up and have my tounge cut out, my fingers cut off, and be tortured to death for speaking against the "land of the free and the home of the brave"
originally posted by: Greathouse
a reply to: lordcomac
Actually go check my first thread ever it explains it. But the majority of the people who replied were defeatist .
originally posted by: neo96
originally posted by: beezzer
It'll pass because the cesspool that passes for DC won't relinquish power/authority/control for a second.
The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 ("FISA" Pub.L. 95–511, 92 Stat. 1783, 50 U.S.C. ch. 36) is a United States federal law which prescribes procedures for the physical and electronic surveillance and collection of "foreign intelligence information" between "foreign powers" and "agents of foreign powers" (which may include American citizens and permanent residents suspected of espionage or terrorism).[1] It has been repeatedly amended since the September 11 attacks.
en.wikipedia.org...
I agree.
40 years of the FISA. They still have it.
And then there will always be Facebook, and Twitter.