Hundreds Expected for Mohammed Cartoon Contest Outside Phoenix Mosque

originally posted by: thefallenone
a reply to: Greathouse

I am not American but that doesn't stop me from having an opinion or eyes.

I see the f**K Islam as hate, not too mention the Neo Nazis there, so tell me again how this protest is purely about free speech.

The organizer of this event wore that shirt, so tell me again this protest is about free speech.

I was curious as to why your concept of free speech was so warped. Being as you are not from America, do you support Muslims right to burn the American flag and chant death to America?

a reply to: Kali74

B. latantly
S. orry?

No need to apologize, I thought you were were demanding logic a few pages back... you get some and unfortunately cognitive dissonance from your chosen side, has produced the inability for you to see facts clearly. Do you have any idea what blue laws are? Ever hear of a dry county? BS indeed, the next level sort.

originally posted by: thefallenone
a reply to: Greathouse

Stop lying that this protest is about rights. It is about hate.

May I ask you this?

Do you hate Jews? Do you hate Christians? Have you ever made any statement meant to be perjorative against them? Have you ever laughed at anti-Christian memes? Have you ever agreed with any comment about the "Jewish conspiracy"? Have you ever denied the Holocaust? Have you ever said anything negative against the Roma?

We need to know exactly what you mean when you say "hate" because it seems that it is only hate when we speak up against political ideologies, which is what Islam really is.

We have no problem here with people wanting to worship however they want, what we do have a problem with is an ideology that permits itself to exercise cruelty to each other and everyone else. And that's the ideology that needs to be addressed.

This protest is not cruel by any means.

And this protest is simply reaching our shores now, because people all over the world are protesting Islam. But here's the deal, we will protect any Muslim's right to worship, what we will not do is protect any group of people who are cruel by violence. When the courtesy is returned then we can discuss it rationally.

But at this point, unless you call a spade a spade, the deck is stacked and we will have to play 52 card pickup after it blows up, because some people are holding a Dead Man's hand.

I want to see Muslim mothers rejoicing over the fact their children became doctors and lawyers instead of suicide bombers who call themselves martyrs. How are they martyrs if they kill other people and themselves?

I want to see Muslim fathers not giving their little girls away to old men. I want to see every little girl in every country learn to read. I do not want to see one more video of a stoning, hanging, burning or crucifixion. And lastly, I want to see every Jew, every Christian, every Buddhist, every Hindu, every atheist, every kaffir, every apostate, every woman, every girl and boy to be able to walk freely and live free in every country in the world.

Can you help that to happen?

a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

After I read that, I just started to laugh so high my husband was asking me what was wrong with me.

, that was good, very good.

Crazy eyed organizer (John something) has the balls to go on camera preaching about his rights to free speech, calling others threatening, while telling his group to come armed, and trying to attack a religious group and remove their rights and freedoms!

I tell you what, these people are f-ing nuts!

Guys like him are the reason the US government now deems the threat of domestic terrorism more urgent than ISIS. This guy is a fruitloop.

Ok this John guy just spoke, refused to speak to the lady that asked the hard questions.

Looks like the same guy that I saw with the spider Web tattoo on his elbow.

He was speaking about tyranny in our nation cause people are protesting against him

Laughable that he wants his rights but they can't have theirs.

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,

or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

or abridging the freedom of speech,

or of the press;

or the right of the people peaceably to assemble,

and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

***ATTENTION***

Knock off any personal comments and insults. Yes this is a heated topic, but there is no need to go after each other. Keep it up and posts will be removed.

a reply to: Rocker2013

You say he is asking people to get armed to start a conflict?

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: Bigburgh

They need the NSA surveillance program back in full gear, right now is been on hold.

so, something needs to be done to get the reason as while we need it renewed again.

( looks left. Then right. Turns off the smart TV. Covers the cam with electrical tape. And signs on using neighbors wifi )

It does seem that the hacking of the IRS, calling in the possible bombings of 4 aircraft that got diverted to JFK international.
Waco biker shootings and now this protest.
Yes I see the NSA screaming to be given endless money and rights to do whatever they need.

You do understand that there are extremism in freedom of speech as well as there are in religious groups. In fact extremism can be applied to anything and it is not good.

This situation is a good example.

Freedom in all forms comes with responsibilities and has strings attached and batteries are not included.

a reply to: marg6043

That is exactly what they wanted.
They wanted texas 2.0, well that is my opinion anyway.

Why else would you bring guns to this event?

originally posted by: OpinionatedB
a reply to: thefallenone

He has the right to say that.. free country... its not hate to say that.. Atheists say # religion all the time.. people say # Christianity all the time..

usually when those religions want to interfere in someone's constitutional rights..

so # Islam... when it wants to interfere in freedom of speech...

so what?

I mean seriously.. when did the religion of Islam get protected status and somehow separate from the treatment every other religion gets?

Oh really? Is it? Walking down a Jewish neighborhood shouting "Heil Hitler" and "# the Jews" is also free speech? What's the difference when its done to Muslims especially next to a Mosque? You'd be labelled antisemitic and get arrested for it. It's free speech when it's fu*k the muslims only.

a reply to: Zanti Misfit

Sorry but i'm looking objectively at the situation, not taking sides out of subjectivity. I personally don't see a difference, between a Muslim suicide bomber that runs into an embassy or a Christian suicide bomber that runs into an abortion clinic... both are ideological extremist murders. Tomato tomato.

a reply to: WarminIndy

It is happening, just stop reading conservative sites, stop watching Fox news.

Muslims are doing these things. Don't believe the BS that they are all evil creatures out to get you.

a reply to: Sremmos80

It could be, I know Is enough crazy people out there, armed and not, my husband happen to carry his gun with him everywhere we go in state and out of state where his permit is allowed.

a reply to: thefallenone

You sure do keep telling us what a protest is.. but you have one ex-muslim, a couple of atheists, perhaps a christian or two thrown in, ALL telling you it has nothing to do with hate..

and we live here, we ought to know.

But keep telling us that why we are against fanatical religions in general, and fanatical Islam in particular in this instance is about us hating people for worshiping in a different manner than the one we chose..

I am positive you know our minds and our stances better than us..

again.. I do miss that roll eyed emoticon.

a reply to: Greathouse

I Personally Think THIS WAS A Good Idea. It will get people talking on both sides about people who were willing to drive hundreds of miles to shoot people. I think both sides need to start talking about this. Islam tries to avoid duscussing the violence in the name of their religion. And amaricans have been so ruled by political correctness people no longer point out problems. This could be a very good thing for both groups. And even better get them talking to be honest it's very rare you have a mosque speat out against isis like this mosque has.

a reply to: Boeing777

No.. in America even the nazi nuts have freedom of speech. They don't get arrested here for that.. only for threatening someone..

There IS a difference.