Is America changing to a monsoon climate?

So, Texas and Oklahoma just had record, huge flooding. The East coast a few years ago had huge record floods, today as I was driving home from fishing to my home in Eastern Washington where it normally doesn't rain after March, my phone gave me a flash flooding alert and then there was a big downpour.

I think that human alteration of the environment through deforestation, desertification, etc. causes unbalanced and dramatic weather. I believe that scientists will eventually discover that places like India and Bangladesh that suffer harsh monsoon seasons regularly are at least partially caused because of human environmental destruction.

There was an article here a few months ago about how forests influence weather, so why wouldn't destroying forests also affect weather?

I've lived in Texas most of my life.
We get hit with a flood every so often.
It seems like we get a real doozy about once a decade.
In the early 80's we got hit by two a year apart as I recall.
The recent flooding is pretty bad, but I've seen worse when I was a kid.
The simple solution is to live on higher ground if you don't want to deal with inconvenience of having your property flooded every now and then.

a reply to: CB328

I'm in the upstate of South Carolina. We haven't had rain this entire month! It's such a shame when some places are getting washed away with flooding, while other places desperately need some of that rain.

Growing up, we never had such long stretches of drought.

The southwest has always had a monsoon climate.
m.weatherbug.com...

It's been flooding in Texas long enough for this song to be a blues standard.
Stevie Ray and the Kings, B.B. and Albert, knew their way around this tune.

a reply to: CB328

Just a few years ago Texas and Oklahoma were having huge drought issues........Why are people so quick to jump on bandwagons....Hmm.


Maybe because it fits into agendas that are being pushed.

a reply to: CB328

I can't speak for the rest of the country (USA) but here in Southern California over the last twenty years - yes, we're experiencing tropical monsoon-like weather. Starting in March and through June we'd have that muggy hot rain from time to time, in the past any rain we had was over by the end of March and then we'd start the long hot dry summer.

This year we've got El Nino mixing things up but giving us some hope for decent snowfall this fall and winter.

Another thread CB328 will post and then never return to probably. I don't know why but he loves creating threads that will turn into arguments.

Born in Tx 69 years ago and this is the most continuous rainfall I have seen tho flooding of different areas seems to rotate. 67 years ago they were using boat to get around in a shopping district. Many different areas flood at different times. If you haven't been around long, then you might think this is wildly different. There was a drought in the 30's 40' s worse than has been of recent.


Edit to add, there is a saying in Tx. that ' If you don't like the weather, wait a minute. We are waiting 5 minutes this year. Doubt it has been first time.

deforestation, desertification, etc. causes unbalanced and dramatic weather.

The problem in the US and Canada we have more trees and younger trees then in the last 2000 years.

The only real desertification in the US was not from man but from climate change from the last ice age.

States like Nevada were forested with massive lakes for the first 5000 years after the last ice age.
blackrockdesert.org...
And what is now the calif desert.
pubs.usgs.gov...

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originally posted by: ANNED

States like Nevada were forested with massive lakes for the first 5000 years after the last ice age.

Ever been to the Bonneville salt flats?
It looks like it used to be an ocean that has now dried up.
You can actually stare at the horizon and see what appears to be the curvature of the planet across a vast white plain of salt.

a reply to: skunkape23
Not an ocean. A lake. Great Salt Lake is what's left of it. It was fed by glaciers that went away a long time ago.
www.mappery.com...
www.blm.gov...


But no, you cannot see the curvature of the Earth when you are standing on it.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: skunkape23
Not an ocean. A lake. Great Salt Lake is what's left of it. It was fed by glaciers that went away a long time ago.
www.mappery.com...
www.blm.gov...


But no, you cannot see the curvature of the Earth when you are standing on it.

Is it typical for glaciers to be composed of salt water?

a reply to: Rich Z
No. But when the melt water flows through salt rich minerals it becomes salty.
Where do you think the salt in oceans comes from?

The Earth is wobbling causing erratic weather.This wobble is caused by the gravitational force of Planet X.The polar and equatorial vortices are being drawn out of their usual positions due to this wobble!-hence what we are witnessing. It is also affecting the currents of the sea in the same manner.

This is global not just the U.S. And will get even more erratic until the poleshift!
poleshift.ning.com...

a reply to: EndOfDays77

The Earth is wobbling causing erratic weather.

No it isn't.

This wobble is caused by the gravitational force of Planet X.

No it isn't.

The polar and equatorial vortices are being drawn out of their usual positions due to this wobble!

No they aren't.

It is also affecting the currents of the sea in the same manner.

No it isn't.

This is global not just the U.S.

Congratulations. You got one right. But what the OP is talking about doesn't have much to do with that part.

originally posted by: CB328
So, Texas and Oklahoma just had record, huge flooding.

Oh Brother, where art thou?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: EndOfDays77

The Earth is wobbling causing erratic weather.

No it isn't.

This wobble is caused by the gravitational force of Planet X.

No it isn't.

The polar and equatorial vortices are being drawn out of their usual positions due to this wobble!

No they aren't.

It is also affecting the currents of the sea in the same manner.

No it isn't.

This is global not just the U.S.

Congratulations. You got one right. But what the OP is talking about doesn't have much to do with that part.

He's factually supported on each one of these topics. It's unfortunate you have chosen to ridicule him rather than enlighten yourself on these proven areas of concern. Do not fear the truth and chose to become insulted for not understanding another perspective.

originally posted by: Naabaahii

He's factually supported on each one of these topics.

No, he's not factually supported on any of those topics. FYI... one supports things to prove facts with citations. If the facts are there(which they aren't) why not cite the sources? Why not explain why not a single astronomer, professional or amateur has been able to locate this magical planet, map its orbit, take a photo?

It's unfortunate you have chosen to ridicule him rather than enlighten yourself on these proven areas of concern.

So pointing out that someone is wrong is now ridiculing them? Balderdash! I've seen Phage ridicule people on here, that wasn't ridicule. It was rather polite by any standards.

Do not fear the truth and chose to become insulted for not understanding another perspective.

right back atcha on not fearing the truth. Give it a whirl.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Rich Z
No. But when the melt water flows through salt rich minerals it becomes salty.
Where do you think the salt in oceans comes from?

Well gee, then how are fresh water lakes created then?